美服改版消息 - WOW

Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2017-03-30T06:39

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美服新藍帖,感謝google翻譯
有錯誤請指正

Thanks for the feedback on this issue. It’s clear that we need to make some
changes here, so here are our current plans:

你們說的朕都知道了,朕知道這看起來需要改一些東西,以下是我們正確的計畫

We’re removing the increase to damage dealt by creatures in the world. Our
overall goal with this change is to keep the amount of time it takes to kill
a creature from getting ridiculously short, and increasing the damage they
deal is unnecessary for that goal. Instead, this was making you feel like
they were becoming more dangerous, which was not our intent.

我們正在移除世界怪物提升傷害的部分
我們改動的最終目標是保持你還是能在短時間內拍死一隻怪
增加傷害這個目標是不必要的,相反的這反而會讓你覺得怪物變得更危險
這不是我們的意圖


We’re significantly reducing the rate at which creature health scales with
your item level. Again, all we’re trying to do here is prevent cases where
monsters die too quickly for players to react to their presence, particularly
around World Quests.

我們大幅調降了怪物被裝等強化的比例
(下面這行不確定翻得有沒有準確,不過大意應該沒錯)
我們要再次強調,我們要防止的是玩家反映說怪死得太快這件事
尤其是在WQ的部分

Our initial tuning was far more aggressive than it
needed to be, which could make it feel like your upgrades weren't actually
helping. This change will make it very clear that you are still becoming
noticeably stronger than your enemies as your gear improves.
Those two changes are already live, and you should be seeing them in-game now.
Later today, we’ll be correcting a separate issue that’s causing
unequipping an item to drastically alter the power of enemies you’re facing.
The above changes make it so that’s never the right thing to do anyway, but
this is still a strange/buggy interaction that needs to be fixed.

我們一開始可能調整的太超過惹,這會讓你覺得你提升裝等並沒有甚麼卵用
這項改動會讓你明顯覺得隨著裝等提升你會變得比怪更強
這兩個改動目前已經實裝,你應該已經在遊戲內看到了
稍晚我們會修正拔裝讓怪物水平下降的事情
這些改動讓你拔裝打怪這件事永遠不會是正確的選擇
但這仍然是個需要修正的bug

It should also be noted that this change was on the Patch 7.2 PTR (and has
been since January). We didn’t communicate anything about it initially
because we wanted to get testers’ raw and honest feedback about it when they
encountered it themselves, rather than attempting to pre-empt or otherwise
influence their opinions ahead of time. When that feedback never came, we
assumed that meant it was an acceptable change – i.e., those who hadn’t
noticed it weren’t bothered by it, and those who had noticed it thought it
was fine. Clearly that was a false assumption, and we should have drawn
attention to it later in the PTR cycle, so that we could have caught these
issues before Patch 7.2 went live.

並且我們應該指出,這項改動是在1月的PTR就放上去了
我們最初並沒有溝通任何事情是因為
我們想要當這些測試的人碰到這些事時
能得到他們最真誠並且最新鮮的回應
而不是提前先放風聲或是用其他方式影響他們的意見
當我們沒有收到任何意見後,我們覺得這是一個可以接受的改變
那些沒注意到改動的人並不覺得是個困擾,然後有發現的人覺得這是個好改動
但顯然這是一個錯的假設,我們應該在PTR後期讓這件事得到關注
這樣我們才可以在7.2上線之前抓出這些問題



翻譯:都是玩家的錯,你們反映說怪死得太快,朕只好把怪改強一點
而且我們老早就放上PTR惹,你們沒發現現在是怪朕摟QQ?

美服依舊炎上中 (拿爆米花

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Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2017-03-31T03:20
最真誠的反應就是玩家FUCK YOU啊 然後又講屁話不理 智障
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2017-03-31T13:07
>wants feedback on ptr about something they dont
tell the playerbase
>ignores feedback on the things that the playerbase
is told about
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2017-04-01T23:35
如果反應怪死的太快,應該要先拔掉盜賊的領主
Dora avatar
By Dora
at 2017-04-04T08:55
蟹煮榮恩
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2017-04-08T06:19
先漲價再打折會讓人覺得比較便宜的概念 幹你BZ
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2017-04-11T00:13
TL;DR: 朕就是要你乖乖吞下去
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2017-04-13T16:33
感謝暴雪讓我有wow版玩
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2017-04-16T13:56
這是開始把問題推給ptr玩家的節奏?
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2017-04-19T23:55
還可以去玩美國論壇 那裡砲火更猛烈
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2017-04-24T23:22
提油救火 千錯萬錯都是玩家的錯
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2017-04-27T02:34
watcher的爛攤Ornyx想收 只是越幫越忙
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2017-04-29T23:15
幹你媽的BZ
Doris avatar
By Doris
at 2017-05-03T22:55
要島了
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2017-05-07T19:34
mvp都跑出來說話了
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2017-05-10T14:40
aren't you thankful?
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2017-05-11T01:48
美國論壇要有包月才能發言 只買版本還不夠
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2017-05-12T07:32
現在台版論壇也差不多 不過點卡就能發言
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2017-05-14T01:48
所以是很多人反應怪死太快……?
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2017-05-14T21:23
誰會抱怨自己太強怪死太快?
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2017-05-19T16:59
職業大廳跟破碎群島沒有傳送門嗎= =
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2017-05-20T21:03
這版的暴雪真的跟以前差很多,以前基本上還是會考慮到遊戲
Hedda avatar
By Hedda
at 2017-05-22T04:57
性,不會只有單純拖住玩家的改動..
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2017-05-26T23:02
以現在的成長幅度小怪是可能被菜刀職業兩刀秒殺
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2017-05-29T09:10
這個修正也只是從白癡變智障,結果還是蠢啊,媽的智障!
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2017-06-01T22:43
沒瞬發aoe的法系會很難搶吧
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2017-06-06T09:39
我只聽過覺得自己職業太廢 不管怎麼打都是矮人一截
但說自己職業太強拜託nerf的還真沒聽過
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2017-06-11T02:10
樓上 抱怨秒怪應該是抱怨其他人秒怪不是抱怨自己啦
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2017-06-12T11:13
有種就別改阿 垃圾暴雪
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2017-06-13T11:07
抱怨別人秒怪就是要把動態重生做好 不是把玩家弄弱
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2017-06-13T15:47
抱怨怪死太快大概是那種很難單打的 到目的地發現差一秒
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2017-06-14T00:08
腦子有問題
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2017-06-17T12:54
人多區死亡重生間隔五到十秒就好惹 不然給怪根性 被打死
強制鎖血五秒 結束後死 解法ㄧ堆
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2017-06-21T03:25
從PTR測試這件事情就可以看出BZ現在的盲點
從設計師到測試人員都是以高玩的角度來看遊戲設計
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2017-06-21T18:51
才會搞出這樣一個亂七八糟的版本
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2017-06-25T18:55
死太快你可以提升重生速度阿幹
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2017-06-28T03:56
真的不能認同怪死太快,然後就調一些有的沒的設定.....
.
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2017-06-30T18:27
因為watcher就是高玩被拉去當設計師的啊
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2017-07-02T08:04
裝備好的會嫌怪死的太快 這他媽是怎麼調查的???
Cara avatar
By Cara
at 2017-07-05T00:04
絕對是藉口,100個人中有1人抱怨其他99人殺怪太快
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2017-07-07T12:13
所以我們決定拉下那99個以配合1人,這種鬼邏輯你信嗎?
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2017-07-09T01:58
賤人團隊 怪死太快八成是內部成員假冒玩家意見的吧
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2017-07-12T03:25
跟現在做假新聞找記者假扮民眾意見有87趴像
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2017-07-12T16:13
結果就是現在這樣,那99個生氣了,根本就單純要拖慢玩家
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2017-07-17T05:24
什麼玩家抱怨的只是藉口,反正大家覺得糞,他們覺得cool
不是D3團隊的特長嗎?
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2017-07-18T15:11
7.0上線半年了,大家還是叫他們低三團隊就知道多諷刺了
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2017-07-23T02:56
嚴格來說 Legion還在開發的時候大家就開始諷刺了
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2017-07-23T19:51
你不說我就當你是Yes囉
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2017-07-26T16:41
有人抱怨小怪死太快所以這樣搞 那就沒人抱怨小怪死太慢
嗎?
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2017-07-27T10:27
死太慢那是因為你不夠努力
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2017-07-30T20:47
BZ:反對的舉手唷 沒人舉手就通過囉~ 玩家:蛤?反對什
麼?
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2017-08-01T16:37
想起法師剛110在蘇拉瑪爾的痛苦,我寧願怪死太快
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2017-08-02T06:38
閒怪死太慢肯定多一些
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2017-08-07T00:47
我法師就是玩得很辛苦 覺得超需要一個肉盾 可是一直沒有
所以86級就放棄了
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2017-08-07T09:31
我很好奇ptr有多少人會去打wq怪
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2017-08-10T23:57
怎麼覺得官方在唬爛 要是有上ptr第一篇怎不說
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2017-08-11T21:40
死無對證啊 他說ptr有上你也反駁不了
William avatar
By William
at 2017-08-15T22:11
這次最大問題 態度...提油救不了火
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2017-08-18T01:13
怪死太快? 想想2.0剛開的時候你們怎麼做? 加速重生啊白
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2017-08-20T10:44
拉高一點血量20%還能接受 加傷害就是北七了
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2017-08-23T05:07
D3團隊了不起之處就是把過去優秀設定砍掉
然後加一堆自己無法控制的設定 最後再怪玩家
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2017-08-27T05:30
然後再把砍掉的東西加回來 順便靠北一下玩家
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2017-08-29T03:26
另一種解法 怪的能力越強 掉橘裝機率越高!保證一堆人
刷怪
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2017-09-02T18:59
以後登入前先選難度好了 T0~T10 越高越會噴橘 讚
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2017-09-05T02:39
我覺得舊世界王也要動態才對 你看看那個憤怒煞死超快的
George avatar
By George
at 2017-09-09T23:12
別人喊怪死太快的吧
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2017-09-13T14:27
不離不棄,被當北七。我說在座的各位都是____。
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2017-09-15T07:03
北七1號前來報到
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2017-09-18T12:00
BZ的盲點在於他們還以為WoW還是款有內容、有深度、充滿挑戰
Caitlin avatar
By Caitlin
at 2017-09-20T04:33
性的RPG,事實上玩家現在只把它當作下班後無腦打怪刷裝的爽g
ame罷了。遊戲現在設計的走向其實也在往這方向逐漸靠攏,只
是他們嘴巴上不承認,精神分裂、眼高手低的結果就是現在這
樣倒行逆施。
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2017-09-23T03:23
挑戰跟深度根本不需要讓玩家解個每日然後難打的要死...
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2017-09-26T20:41
這個d3毀滅團隊應該是燃燒軍團派來的
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2017-09-30T09:35
roka你把bz和玩家放反了吧
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2017-10-02T20:24
正正是因為他們做不到有內容、有深度的東西,才用一大
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2017-10-07T04:26
堆rng和糞機制去包裝成很有挑戰性的內容啊
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2017-10-09T00:18
好啦 至少認錯了 至少這還不像核心橙掉落是那種潑出去就
收不回來的水
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2017-10-10T07:13
沒有認錯,現在是本來一大碗屎要你吃,玩家不買帳開罵
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2017-10-14T18:01
就說:那先吃半碗吧
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2017-10-17T03:09
87樓好好笑wwwwwwww
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2017-10-19T03:58
大便一碗太多,半碗就吃的下去了
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2017-10-20T18:09
有些人一開始就吃的很開心呢
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2017-10-23T04:21
那是大還丹啊 整碗吃下去就能學會摩登如來神掌囉
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2017-10-26T16:11
大還丹明明就是條的,罰你重看一次

開了 先解知識26任務

Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2017-03-30T06:34
開機了 先在達拉然接任務解知識26再去做其他事情 接下來會補上所見所聞 -- 回家了啦!別在這裡丟人現眼了 我還沒說完吶~~ ○ ︵ ...

美服部落-PVP

William avatar
By William
at 2017-03-30T02:58
看到版上有美服聯盟的PVP討論很羨慕 小弟在這邊開一個curse社群想提供美服部落的玩家 歡迎大家加入可以互相討論、找隊友 ↓↓↓Curse群組連結↓↓↓ https://invite.twitch.tv/LochliLashedUrsoc 順便提供Tag如果有美服相關問題我也會盡量回答 lokta ...

暗牧雙子戒 一次不夠有擴散兩次嗎

Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2017-03-30T01:48
老實說從 7.1.5 之後我就有發現雙子戒的BUFF可以連續擴散兩次! 但因為觸發機制限制很多,所以適用的戰鬥場合就很少 因此我就一直沒分享給大家,不過再過幾個小時就改 7.2 了,說不定就沒用了... 可以看影片:https://youtu.be/NkhRHLB_aXw 方法: 1. 施放虛無暴發立 ...

夜雷龍~傳奇固定團6/10M徵人

Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2017-03-30T01:43
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7.2改版一些雜感

Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2017-03-30T01:08
單純聊一下動態的部分 以往沒有動態制度,怪物都是固定強度 就只能利用新區域取代舊區域的方式 而為什麼要引入動態呢,一方面節省開發能量,讓以往等於過時的內容可以再度利用 另一方面是彈性化,減低裝等爆炸情形下的強度設計的困擾 但它違背了RPG的常理,你變強了,同樣的怪應該變弱才是 如果用得不好,就變 ...