有關3-4-3 陣型的選擇 - 線上

By Mary
at 2014-01-18T21:17
at 2014-01-18T21:17
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※ 引述《shangyu (安安安安安安安安安安安)》之銘言:
: 徵翻譯!另外我刪掉情緒性字眼供討論。
: tian_vorperis
: Taiwan simply doesn't have the players to use 3-4-3, and 3-4-3 is not even
: used very much by any team because it is completely useless against anything
: else other than a 5-2-3 CA. 5-5-0 is a defensive formation, and Taiwan is a
: small team who will have a hrd time winning points.
: Mod-Cattington
: 3-4-3 and 5-5-0 have completely different uses.
: You play 5-5-0 if you're defending with all you got, usually in combination
: with ppp - pic, pressing and praying ;-)
: 3-4-3 is usually used if your midfielders are much, much stronger than the
: opponents, and you expect him to play very defensive with very low midfield.
: In such a case, you build very strong attack through wingers and forwards,
: and have decent defense against any counter attacks. But 3-4-3 is usually
: only used by huge countries when facing really weak opponents, so I can't see
: many uses for 3-4-3 for the Taiwanese U20.
: 3-4-3 is similar to 2-5-3, but 2-5-3 can be used in more situations, as it
: can be nearly as defensive as 3-4-3, if played with a def coach, but offers
: much more offensive possibilities. So if they build 3-4-3 as main offensive
: formation, the most likely formation to drop for it would be 2-5-3, but I'd
: see that as a mistake, because it takes away the most offensive, midfield
: oriented options.
我更樂意在官網上討論這個,不過既然我被禁言了,況且這篇可能是TNP內部文章
就在這邊回覆吧。
我很歡迎這樣的討論 !!
首先不要只批評343,先看看我們手頭上的選擇,
在目前沒有經驗陣型的U20陣型,我們上星期五有四個可供選擇未練的陣型,
預計剩下的時間還可以練一個,分別是550、532、433、343,
(目前手頭上有541 523 451 442 352 253)
550太防守了,我們不考慮,也可以用541的變型取代550
433我們也不考慮,因為我們手頭上的球員並不足以支持433
532是個放棄中場的防反陣型,星期五中國NT強勢主場進攻,就是敗在了532
這場的介紹請參下篇文 !!
至於343,大家都說,很難跟強國抗衡,可是考量我們下一屆的球員配置,
我們有很好的守門員,有很好的後衛,有很好的中場,"一個"不錯的邊峰,
"兩個"不錯的前鋒,以及一個不錯的防守型前鋒,
這樣的前人留下來的球員配置,太適合打343了,類似這樣的概念
守門
邊後(有邊鋒技能) 中後 邊後(防守型)
邊鋒 中前衛 中前衛 中前衛
(進攻型)
前鋒(靠邊) 防守型前鋒 常規前鋒(或是第二個防守型前鋒)
以上,當然偏比較進攻的陣型,當領先時,常規前鋒也可以拉回去打442
增加防守,
以上是我們將建立343陣型的概念以及思維 !! 343是很適合我們的陣型
--
: 徵翻譯!另外我刪掉情緒性字眼供討論。
: tian_vorperis
: Taiwan simply doesn't have the players to use 3-4-3, and 3-4-3 is not even
: used very much by any team because it is completely useless against anything
: else other than a 5-2-3 CA. 5-5-0 is a defensive formation, and Taiwan is a
: small team who will have a hrd time winning points.
: Mod-Cattington
: 3-4-3 and 5-5-0 have completely different uses.
: You play 5-5-0 if you're defending with all you got, usually in combination
: with ppp - pic, pressing and praying ;-)
: 3-4-3 is usually used if your midfielders are much, much stronger than the
: opponents, and you expect him to play very defensive with very low midfield.
: In such a case, you build very strong attack through wingers and forwards,
: and have decent defense against any counter attacks. But 3-4-3 is usually
: only used by huge countries when facing really weak opponents, so I can't see
: many uses for 3-4-3 for the Taiwanese U20.
: 3-4-3 is similar to 2-5-3, but 2-5-3 can be used in more situations, as it
: can be nearly as defensive as 3-4-3, if played with a def coach, but offers
: much more offensive possibilities. So if they build 3-4-3 as main offensive
: formation, the most likely formation to drop for it would be 2-5-3, but I'd
: see that as a mistake, because it takes away the most offensive, midfield
: oriented options.
我更樂意在官網上討論這個,不過既然我被禁言了,況且這篇可能是TNP內部文章
就在這邊回覆吧。
我很歡迎這樣的討論 !!
首先不要只批評343,先看看我們手頭上的選擇,
在目前沒有經驗陣型的U20陣型,我們上星期五有四個可供選擇未練的陣型,
預計剩下的時間還可以練一個,分別是550、532、433、343,
(目前手頭上有541 523 451 442 352 253)
550太防守了,我們不考慮,也可以用541的變型取代550
433我們也不考慮,因為我們手頭上的球員並不足以支持433
532是個放棄中場的防反陣型,星期五中國NT強勢主場進攻,就是敗在了532
這場的介紹請參下篇文 !!
至於343,大家都說,很難跟強國抗衡,可是考量我們下一屆的球員配置,
我們有很好的守門員,有很好的後衛,有很好的中場,"一個"不錯的邊峰,
"兩個"不錯的前鋒,以及一個不錯的防守型前鋒,
這樣的前人留下來的球員配置,太適合打343了,類似這樣的概念
守門
邊後(有邊鋒技能) 中後 邊後(防守型)
邊鋒 中前衛 中前衛 中前衛
(進攻型)
前鋒(靠邊) 防守型前鋒 常規前鋒(或是第二個防守型前鋒)
以上,當然偏比較進攻的陣型,當領先時,常規前鋒也可以拉回去打442
增加防守,
以上是我們將建立343陣型的概念以及思維 !! 343是很適合我們的陣型
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By Hedda
at 2014-01-22T18:25
at 2014-01-22T18:25

By Jake
at 2014-01-22T23:06
at 2014-01-22T23:06
說實話..我覺得我們這屆 很難使用253

By Edwina
at 2014-01-23T10:29
at 2014-01-23T10:29
反正253陣型經驗是現成的..就擺著吧..還是有可能用到
只是我覺得不太可能..因為不太可能出現絕對的弱隊
至於打all offensive,也看先看中場rating

By Blanche
at 2014-01-28T10:14
at 2014-01-28T10:14

By Olive
at 2014-01-30T02:38
at 2014-01-30T02:38

By Candice
at 2014-01-30T23:42
at 2014-01-30T23:42
希望能指出 3-4-3 和 2-5-3 的不同

By Ina
at 2014-02-02T13:03
at 2014-02-02T13:03
但是較攻擊性的打法也是可以試試的~~

By Brianna
at 2014-02-03T03:19
at 2014-02-03T03:19
對上打不贏的對手應該怎麼應對~~

By Dorothy
at 2014-02-05T07:34
at 2014-02-05T07:34

By Hedda
at 2014-02-09T17:40
at 2014-02-09T17:40

By Donna
at 2014-02-14T17:14
at 2014-02-14T17:14
你看過我們的球員技能..應該 有感覺 我們打253不太好

By Hedy
at 2014-02-15T17:23
at 2014-02-15T17:23
中場佔優的話352 343 442甚至253開場

By Daph Bay
at 2014-02-19T16:03
at 2014-02-19T16:03
當然這是我個人的打法..並不是唯一 每個玩家看法都不同

By Odelette
at 2014-02-22T14:22
at 2014-02-22T14:22
我們很難雙翼齊飛....

By Queena
at 2014-02-26T03:27
at 2014-02-26T03:27
該球員狀太好 我還是可能會徵召
各自有各自的打法 以及看法..都可以討論

By Xanthe
at 2014-02-28T18:08
at 2014-02-28T18:08
他的效果會和 343 差不多~~因為現在的設定

By Delia
at 2014-03-02T05:12
at 2014-03-02T05:12
或者可以試試~~3中場1邊鋒的排法~另一個完全防守的後衛~

By Hamiltion
at 2014-03-02T23:47
at 2014-03-02T23:47

By Olivia
at 2014-03-05T13:17
at 2014-03-05T13:17

By Agatha
at 2014-03-09T22:44
at 2014-03-09T22:44
不過看陣型的概念..以及我看重的是我們的球員"適合"
打甚麼陣型..能最大發揮效果 克敵制勝的機會大些

By Bennie
at 2014-03-12T09:02
at 2014-03-12T09:02
防守點的2-5-3 和 3-4-3 兩個陣的差別~~

By Hedwig
at 2014-03-17T03:54
at 2014-03-17T03:54

By Hamiltion
at 2014-03-21T18:44
at 2014-03-21T18:44

By Ingrid
at 2014-03-25T20:11
at 2014-03-25T20:11

By Lucy
at 2014-03-30T12:50
at 2014-03-30T12:50
這四個..最有可能用到的..如果你要回答的話
這點要論述清楚..四個選擇 我們的球員比較適合打343

By Sarah
at 2014-03-31T17:00
at 2014-03-31T17:00

By Lydia
at 2014-04-05T11:53
at 2014-04-05T11:53
我們現在有541啊..把一個邊鋒挪去打靠邊前

By Barb Cronin
at 2014-04-09T20:50
at 2014-04-09T20:50
不太適合使用..前人也不建置550的陣型經驗

By Mia
at 2014-04-11T06:34
at 2014-04-11T06:34

By Kelly
at 2014-04-15T06:16
at 2014-04-15T06:16

By Barb Cronin
at 2014-04-17T05:33
at 2014-04-17T05:33
我的考量是 四個選一個比較可能用的上的

By Edwina
at 2014-04-20T11:00
at 2014-04-20T11:00
當然 這陣型的確使用機會不大 不過是四個選擇最大的
以上 四句話打發..XD

By Ina
at 2014-04-25T09:52
at 2014-04-25T09:52
他們如果發在公開論壇 大家一起討論

By Faithe
at 2014-04-26T15:12
at 2014-04-26T15:12
他們NT要用甚麼 過去U20要用甚麼 也從來沒有跟
投他們票的我們報告過....我們是權台灣HT的團隊

By Jessica
at 2014-04-29T11:56
at 2014-04-29T11:56
但是 如果 在公開論壇 大家客客氣氣的討論 教學鄉長
當然我們學比較多 大家都是平等的為台灣討論 這我很歡迎

By Harry
at 2014-05-03T20:31
at 2014-05-03T20:31

By Lydia
at 2014-05-04T16:58
at 2014-05-04T16:58
我會考慮轉到 TNP ,必竟只有一個邊鋒不是值得公開的事

By Quanna
at 2014-05-06T17:32
at 2014-05-06T17:32
但是 3-4-3有必要的話~~我認為應該尊重你的選擇~

By Audriana
at 2014-05-11T11:07
at 2014-05-11T11:07

By Liam
at 2014-05-15T10:59
at 2014-05-15T10:59

By Elvira
at 2014-05-19T07:26
at 2014-05-19T07:26
公開公幹人的沒事..捍衛自己的被罰禁言

By Jacob
at 2014-05-24T03:26
at 2014-05-24T03:26
都讓給TNP他們玩就好咯 現在球員兼裁判

By Candice
at 2014-05-27T17:58
at 2014-05-27T17:58

By Edward Lewis
at 2014-05-27T23:26
at 2014-05-27T23:26

By Margaret
at 2014-05-30T14:11
at 2014-05-30T14:11
還認為理所當然 我們不說英文 就是該死..

By Rae
at 2014-05-30T20:46
at 2014-05-30T20:46
論壇管理員保證 Tian有受到 該受到懲罰 看來

By Margaret
at 2014-06-04T09:37
at 2014-06-04T09:37

By Jacob
at 2014-06-07T13:17
at 2014-06-07T13:17
說我懂英文 你不用英文 會造成誤解..誰想在那邊發言
反正 等我禁言完..我如果看到值得回的 我會回

By Sarah
at 2014-06-10T20:06
at 2014-06-10T20:06

By Belly
at 2014-06-11T04:10
at 2014-06-11T04:10

By Charlotte
at 2014-06-14T04:56
at 2014-06-14T04:56
謝謝....老外發情綠化 就很OK ..還持續發情緒化與
先等 大家能公平對話 我才打算 比較長使用論壇

By Hedda
at 2014-06-17T01:21
at 2014-06-17T01:21
沒差 反正我看到情綠話語 我自己檢舉

By Michael
at 2014-06-20T14:50
at 2014-06-20T14:50
但是~~這也同時是我的問題~~我是說陣型~~
你知道的~~我會比較偏好保留 5-5-0

By Olive
at 2014-06-23T06:09
at 2014-06-23T06:09
現在大家 都是平等的 一邊U20 一邊NT

By Christine
at 2014-06-26T18:51
at 2014-06-26T18:51

By Andy
at 2014-06-27T19:10
at 2014-06-27T19:10

By Bethany
at 2014-06-29T17:52
at 2014-06-29T17:52
應該是沒看過評級..等我用好 看了評級

By Sierra Rose
at 2014-07-01T11:57
at 2014-07-01T11:57

By Andy
at 2014-07-03T09:38
at 2014-07-03T09:38
以及一些中場 (可以打防反的中場)

By Olive
at 2014-07-08T02:53
at 2014-07-08T02:53
我..禁言....同時你也知道 我不想再用那個論壇了

By Ida
at 2014-07-09T07:07
at 2014-07-09T07:07
5-5-0 的好處就是可以增加中場來減少進攻機會~~

By Anonymous
at 2014-07-10T19:56
at 2014-07-10T19:56

By Gilbert
at 2014-07-15T19:44
at 2014-07-15T19:44
但是550 一旦掉分 你很難 把分數拿回來

By Anonymous
at 2014-07-17T02:34
at 2014-07-17T02:34

By Madame
at 2014-07-19T06:14
at 2014-07-19T06:14

By Iris
at 2014-07-19T09:16
at 2014-07-19T09:16
442也是....一個賽程14場 不可能不打防反的....

By Lauren
at 2014-07-21T11:59
at 2014-07-21T11:59

By Ivy
at 2014-07-22T02:03
at 2014-07-22T02:03

By Mia
at 2014-07-24T09:10
at 2014-07-24T09:10
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