Matyas Kuti - 魔術方塊

Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2008-02-23T14:04

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(翻譯有錯誤請指正)


好的, 我們來看看.

我在之前的文章已經討論過這件事, 但現在我有更詳細的資料.

以下的影片是 2007世界盃比賽中, kuti盲解15顆, 在盲解到第2顆所拍攝.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyEbkrjTeag

我在之前的文章討論的, 就是4分00秒~4分40秒的部分.

影片中看的出他完全打亂了corner, 很神奇的, 他竟然知道該怎麼解回來.

有人說這可能是一個翻轉corner的公式.

嗯, 我不這麼認為.

我重建了kuti當時比賽時, 每一步的解法,

也就是影片中的4分00秒到5分19秒的部份.

我認真的說, 只有兩種人.

會看完這段影片, 還覺得沒有"影片證據"可以證明kuti作弊.

1. 完全不懂盲解流程的人

2. 頑固的笨蛋.

我已經沒有其他字眼可以形容,

我目前還沒遇到, 看完影片後, 還相信kuti沒作弊的人.

來看看影片中發生了什麼事.

在4:00時, kuti已經解完了CO的部份(約花了一分鐘)

接著, 他應該做了一個setup, 然後換三邊, 再將setup逆做回來.

我們來看看他做了什麼.

他用D' L' F2來Setup, 接著換三邊, 然後做了F2 D L !!

他在逆回setup時, 順序做錯了 (daleleu註: 正確順序應該是F2 L D),

因為這個錯誤, 他完全打亂了corner跟edge.

他在完全看不到的情況下, 竟然知道他打亂了整個方塊.

正常情況下, 他只需要做L' D' 再接L D就可以修正這個錯誤.

但他沒有, 他開始觀察, 然後一直重覆的轉, 想把corner翻正.

包括做了 z U'R'U z' 來把黃色的corner放回第一層.

或用翻角公式來翻角.

我重建了他整段解法, 也做成Java applet, 網址如下

http://solvethecube.110mb.com/kuti.htm

[解說]

Scramble: U R2 F2 L2 U B2 D2 L2 U2 L2 U R U' D F' U F B' R' U L2
( U面白色, F面藍色)

kuti解法如下:
[換三角] d' L D F2 R2 U R U R' U' R' U' R' U R' F2 D' L' d

[Setup] d2 D' L' F2

[換三邊] M2 U M U2 M' U M2

[逆著setup(順序錯了)] F2 D L

[觀察方塊] y2 U U'

[重新塞回D面的corner] yz U'R'U z'y U' y'2

[J字PLL (N13) ] L' U R U' L U2 R' U R U2 R'

[換三邊] R' x y R' R2 U R U R' U' R' U' R' U R' R y' x' R

[用翻角公式翻角] L2 z' U' R' U R U' R' U L' U' R U R'
U' R U L z L2 y2

[換三邊] M' U M U2 M' U M

[換三邊] R2 U' R' U' R U R U R U' R

[轉動方塊] y2 x2 y y

[換三邊] M' U M U2 M' U M

[換三邊] R2 U' R' U' R U R U R U' R

[轉動方塊] y' z2 y' y z2

[T字PLL] R y2 R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' L'



http://tinyurl.com/2r5t7y

以上的影片解法重建, 已經足以證明kuti是個作弊者了...


※ 引述《chevylove (C'est ma vie)》之銘言:
: Allright, here it comes.
: I already talked about this issue in an earlier post, but I have more details
: now: The 2nd solve in the 15 cubes multiple blindfolded at the World
: Championships 07. The video is here:
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyEbkrjTeag
: The part I talked about earlier is 4:00 – 4:40. He seems to mess up the
: corners. And then he magically knows how to correct his mistake.
: Somebody suggested that it might be an algorithm that also twists corners.
: Well, I have news: I reconstructed the whole drama: from 4:00 – 5:19.
: Seriously, if a person still believes that no visual aid was involved after
: seeing this, he is either:
: A) A person who does not know the first thing about blindfold cubing.
: B) A stubborn dumbass
: I have no other words to describe it. I don't see how anyone can still
: believe he did not cheat after this. Here is what happened:
: At 4:00, the corners are solved (after about a minute of solving).
: Then he does some setup moves, a three cycle, and the inverse of the setup
: moves.
: Next, he uses D' L' F2 as setup moves, then a three cycle, then F2 D L!! He
: inverts the moves in the wrong order, completely messing up the corners and
: some edges again. Now, had he realised that he made a mistake without seeing
: it, he would have just done L' D' L D to correct it. But this was clearly not
: the case. Instead, he starts looking around, then starts doing the corners
: all over again, including a move like z U'R'U z' to insert a yellow corner in
: the first layer again, and a commutator to twist two corners.
: The reconstructed part of the solve is below. I also made an applet:
: http://solvethecube.110mb.com/kuti.htm
: Scramble: U R2 F2 L2 U B2 D2 L2 U2 L2 U R U' D F' U F B' R' U L2 (white on
: top, blue on front)
: Solution:
: [Three cycle] d' L D F2 R2 U R U R' U' R' U' R' U R' F2 D' L' d
: [Setup moves] d2 D' L' F2
: [Three cycle] M2 U M U2 M' U M2
: [Wrong inverse of setup moves] F2 D L
: [Looking around] y2 U U'
: [Inserting D-layer corner] yz U'R'U z'y U' y'2
: [J-Permutation] L' U R U' L U2 R' U R U2 R'
: [Three cycle] R' x y R' R2 U R U R' U' R' U' R' U R' R y' x' R
: [Twisting two corners with commutator] L2 z' U' R' U R U' R' U L' U' R U R'
: U' R U L z L2 y2
: [Three cycle] M' U M U2 M' U M
: [Three cycle] R2 U' R' U' R U R U R U' R
: [Some rotations] y2 x2 y y
: [Three cycle] M' U M U2 M' U M
: [Three cycle] R2 U' R' U' R U R U R U' R
: [Some rotations] y' z2 y' y z2
: [T-Permuatation] R y2 R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' L'
: http://tinyurl.com/2r5t7y
: This video reconstruction is enough prooving that Kuti is cheating...

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All Comments

Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2008-02-27T01:12
這篇原文的重點在於, 影片中kuti的盲解不是靠著"記憶力"
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2008-02-27T13:09
而是靠"視覺", 因為setup錯誤大家都可能發生,
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2008-02-29T10:13
但是靠記憶的解法,發現解錯,會將解法逆推回去,一步一步
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2008-03-02T13:15
檢查那個部份set有錯, 在盲解過程中, 絕對不可能發生
kuti以上的解法, 因為kuti已經是整個打亂, 又重解了.
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2008-03-05T13:21
這種解法跟盲解的已經沒有關聯, 他只是用"盲解公式",
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2008-03-10T06:45
然後"看著"解出來
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2008-03-10T21:11
有種失望的感覺【茶】

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By Emily
at 2008-02-23T10:48
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