Fallout4對話的規則性 - XBOX

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作者: twodahsk (LL) 看板: RealPlaying
標題: [閒聊] Fallout對話的規則性
時間: Tue Nov 3 19:28:27 2015
其實這個在E3 Trailer出來的時候reddit的眼尖網友就已經看出來了,我來整理一下
首先,上一張XBOX的手把圖片
http://imgur.com/yJdVest
(圖片取自engadget)
你可以看到,XBOX手把裡面,A是綠色的,B是紅色的,X是藍色的,Y是黃色的
紅,綠,黃,讓你想到啥?對,就是紅綠燈,這就是FALLOUT4的對話系統
FO4我們可以看出他對演出做出了強化,你說話的時候鏡頭會照你,對話對象說話的時候
鏡頭會照對方,所以他把以往固定在對方臉上的對話框給取消了。
這個系統還有另一個好處,因為不會進入對話模式,所以你可以在任何時間離開對話,
或者是直接拔槍暴對方頭。
那,這個系統有個問題,那就是如果把對話全部完整放上去,演出效果會不好,而且
也不美觀,所以弄成簡句。
但是這裡問題又發生了,簡句不能夠完整傳達玩家的意願,或者預知會說出什麼話。
幾年前有個日本遊戲叫做美夢俱樂部,也是採用這個方式,可是非常整玩家。
這遊戲是你要去把酒店妹,對話會出現三個選項,同樣也是簡句,然後...你也很難預測
選了之後會說出什麼話。
所以日本有個實況主發生了這個悲劇:
1.追妹追到最後階段,說想送一台機車給她
2.妹之前因為他說錯了話很生氣,但有點要接受的意願了,於是問主角"機車很貴吧?"
3.玩家面前出現了三個選項,實況主考慮了很久,選「其實不會很貴啦」這句簡句
4.可是主角說出來的話讓實況主掉到了地獄
「沒問題啦,是事故車所以很便宜,阿哈哈哈........當然是開玩笑」
5.理所當然的,妹暴怒,追失敗了。
然後更北七的是這遊戲不能存檔,選錯關鍵對話就重打一輪吧。(後來有出存檔功能的DLC)
FO4預想到了這個問題,所以把對話做成紅綠燈
依照目前所有的官方影片來看,紅綠燈效果如下。
下A綠燈:同意對方,善意的回答,正向的想法。
右B紅燈:否認對方,惡意的回答,負面的想法。
左X藍燈:不可置否,中性的回答,中性的想法。
上Y黃燈:提出疑問,要求更多情報,懷疑的想法。
這剛好也符合XBOX手把的配色,所以官網才會說「我完全支援XBOX手把,PS4不保證」
其實功能是有支援的,但因為PS4手把沒有這種配色....OX的位置也和XBOX不一樣所以...
簡單的說就是知道自己不會寫劇情和任務,所以強化演出,同時也給玩家提示你選
這個選項會出什麼反應之類的,簡化整個對話系統的內涵和意外性,強化運鏡和演出。
像是FNV的競技場老闆娘,Red Lucy,還記得你幫她抓蛋的任務嗎?如果你很慷慨的
選擇你不要報酬,她反而會瞧不起你,因為這都是你用血換來的,你理當得到報酬。
但是你事前不會知道,因為絕大多數npc都會額外感謝你,給你額外聲望,或者是給你
額外的服務之類XD
這就是對話的意外性....
總之,FO4想當好人,那就對好人角色儘量不要選B,想殺到底,那就一路選B吧,
保證你到哪裡都嘴臭到極點,馬上引發衝突XDDD
其實我對這系統還滿欣賞的,這代表製作人對自己的Team很有自知之明...於是一路追求
娛樂性和演出性這樣
--
作者: twodahsk (LL) 看板: RealPlaying
標題: [閒聊] Fallout對話的規則性
時間: Tue Nov 3 19:28:27 2015
其實這個在E3 Trailer出來的時候reddit的眼尖網友就已經看出來了,我來整理一下
首先,上一張XBOX的手把圖片
http://imgur.com/yJdVest
(圖片取自engadget)
你可以看到,XBOX手把裡面,A是綠色的,B是紅色的,X是藍色的,Y是黃色的
紅,綠,黃,讓你想到啥?對,就是紅綠燈,這就是FALLOUT4的對話系統
FO4我們可以看出他對演出做出了強化,你說話的時候鏡頭會照你,對話對象說話的時候
鏡頭會照對方,所以他把以往固定在對方臉上的對話框給取消了。
這個系統還有另一個好處,因為不會進入對話模式,所以你可以在任何時間離開對話,
或者是直接拔槍暴對方頭。
那,這個系統有個問題,那就是如果把對話全部完整放上去,演出效果會不好,而且
也不美觀,所以弄成簡句。
但是這裡問題又發生了,簡句不能夠完整傳達玩家的意願,或者預知會說出什麼話。
幾年前有個日本遊戲叫做美夢俱樂部,也是採用這個方式,可是非常整玩家。
這遊戲是你要去把酒店妹,對話會出現三個選項,同樣也是簡句,然後...你也很難預測
選了之後會說出什麼話。
所以日本有個實況主發生了這個悲劇:
1.追妹追到最後階段,說想送一台機車給她
2.妹之前因為他說錯了話很生氣,但有點要接受的意願了,於是問主角"機車很貴吧?"
3.玩家面前出現了三個選項,實況主考慮了很久,選「其實不會很貴啦」這句簡句
4.可是主角說出來的話讓實況主掉到了地獄
「沒問題啦,是事故車所以很便宜,阿哈哈哈........當然是開玩笑」
5.理所當然的,妹暴怒,追失敗了。
然後更北七的是這遊戲不能存檔,選錯關鍵對話就重打一輪吧。(後來有出存檔功能的DLC)
FO4預想到了這個問題,所以把對話做成紅綠燈
依照目前所有的官方影片來看,紅綠燈效果如下。
下A綠燈:同意對方,善意的回答,正向的想法。
右B紅燈:否認對方,惡意的回答,負面的想法。
左X藍燈:不可置否,中性的回答,中性的想法。
上Y黃燈:提出疑問,要求更多情報,懷疑的想法。
這剛好也符合XBOX手把的配色,所以官網才會說「我完全支援XBOX手把,PS4不保證」
其實功能是有支援的,但因為PS4手把沒有這種配色....OX的位置也和XBOX不一樣所以...
簡單的說就是知道自己不會寫劇情和任務,所以強化演出,同時也給玩家提示你選
這個選項會出什麼反應之類的,簡化整個對話系統的內涵和意外性,強化運鏡和演出。
像是FNV的競技場老闆娘,Red Lucy,還記得你幫她抓蛋的任務嗎?如果你很慷慨的
選擇你不要報酬,她反而會瞧不起你,因為這都是你用血換來的,你理當得到報酬。
但是你事前不會知道,因為絕大多數npc都會額外感謝你,給你額外聲望,或者是給你
額外的服務之類XD
這就是對話的意外性....
總之,FO4想當好人,那就對好人角色儘量不要選B,想殺到底,那就一路選B吧,
保證你到哪裡都嘴臭到極點,馬上引發衝突XDDD
其實我對這系統還滿欣賞的,這代表製作人對自己的Team很有自知之明...於是一路追求
娛樂性和演出性這樣
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