Cliff.B要黑掉了嗎? 之二 - XBOX

By Kama
at 2013-06-20T14:26
at 2013-06-20T14:26
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※ 引述《zsyian (zsyian)》之銘言:
: 這幾點真的非常認同,主機遊戲的生態已經在畸形中了
: 只是大家沒有感覺,或者選擇不去感覺
: 越來越多DLC,後來又有season pass, online pass
: 同樣的作品出best版,黃金版,完整版,合輯版,然後大玩系列作
: 下面是我在巴哈的貼文,本來不想貼到這裡的,因為與Xbox無關
: 只是,真的希望多點人能理解,所以還是貼過來了
我覺得遊戲市場的崩壞可以算是歷史的必然吧
無關二手或是盜版,這些只是壓死駱駝的稻草之一
真正的罪魁禍首是科技的進步導致逐漸上漲的開發費用
複習一下遊戲史
以前出過多少讓人感到「新奇」的遊戲?
vib ribbon PaRappa The Rapper
http://youtu.be/EbHO1ZYhtLk http://youtu.be/6eZcV1UuUzI
Killer 7 塊魂
http://youtu.be/SdQlxKp-V9s http://youtu.be/cwhFH75OCDs
UFO:a day in the life Bust a Move 2
http://youtu.be/eYGYUGphXFM http://youtu.be/JdGwK5YdIYE
Beyond Good and Evil Jet Set Radio
http://youtu.be/Wg4CDpo0aw0 http://youtu.be/mBbf1v2Ctv4
F-Zero GX 天誅
http://youtu.be/-cAHRjawJ-M http://youtu.be/VhYV4B_GwI0
恩...太多了列不完,先放這些好了
這些遊戲都不是什麼超級大作(beyond good and evil可能是...)
現在呢?除了車槍球以外我們多久沒有看到這些前無古人後無來者的遊戲橫空出世了?
在前兩個世代硬體性能起來了,使得很多天馬行空的創意可以實現
到了本世代硬體性能更強,卻沒看到更多令人驚豔的遊戲出現
就是因為遊戲的開發費已經高漲到把利潤都吃光了
以前的遊戲畫面好壞的差異還不是這麼明顯
在這個世代,有沒有砸錢下去畫面就是不一樣
如果今天戰爭機器的畫面跟靈彈魔女一樣慘不忍睹還會有人想玩嗎?
但是這一切都是必然,科技是會一直進步的
新一代的家用機性能一定會更強
解析度越高,玩家的眼睛看得見越多東西,你的細節就是要越做越多
做這些需要大量的時間與人力
遊戲界跟唱片業不同,世界再怎麼變化,寫歌錄唱片的成本也不會幾何上升
遊戲就不同了,隨著世代發展開發費用已經到了無法想像的境界
但是真正花在靈魂上面(企劃)的錢沒有跟著幾何成長
所以造成遊戲內容追不上畫面的發展
甚至為了穩定回收成本,對於新遊戲的開發越來越裹足不前
所有的DLC,微交易,F2P,Super AE 猛將傳之colletor's edition威力加強版這些惡質手段
都是為了拯救這艘即將要沉了的大船
老實講,對於未來我比Cliff.B還要更悲觀
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: 這幾點真的非常認同,主機遊戲的生態已經在畸形中了
: 只是大家沒有感覺,或者選擇不去感覺
: 越來越多DLC,後來又有season pass, online pass
: 同樣的作品出best版,黃金版,完整版,合輯版,然後大玩系列作
: 下面是我在巴哈的貼文,本來不想貼到這裡的,因為與Xbox無關
: 只是,真的希望多點人能理解,所以還是貼過來了
我覺得遊戲市場的崩壞可以算是歷史的必然吧
無關二手或是盜版,這些只是壓死駱駝的稻草之一
真正的罪魁禍首是科技的進步導致逐漸上漲的開發費用
複習一下遊戲史
以前出過多少讓人感到「新奇」的遊戲?
vib ribbon PaRappa The Rapper
http://youtu.be/EbHO1ZYhtLk http://youtu.be/6eZcV1UuUzI
Killer 7 塊魂
http://youtu.be/SdQlxKp-V9s http://youtu.be/cwhFH75OCDs
UFO:a day in the life Bust a Move 2
http://youtu.be/eYGYUGphXFM http://youtu.be/JdGwK5YdIYE
Beyond Good and Evil Jet Set Radio
http://youtu.be/Wg4CDpo0aw0 http://youtu.be/mBbf1v2Ctv4
F-Zero GX 天誅
http://youtu.be/-cAHRjawJ-M http://youtu.be/VhYV4B_GwI0
恩...太多了列不完,先放這些好了
這些遊戲都不是什麼超級大作(beyond good and evil可能是...)
現在呢?除了車槍球以外我們多久沒有看到這些前無古人後無來者的遊戲橫空出世了?
在前兩個世代硬體性能起來了,使得很多天馬行空的創意可以實現
到了本世代硬體性能更強,卻沒看到更多令人驚豔的遊戲出現
就是因為遊戲的開發費已經高漲到把利潤都吃光了
以前的遊戲畫面好壞的差異還不是這麼明顯
在這個世代,有沒有砸錢下去畫面就是不一樣
如果今天戰爭機器的畫面跟靈彈魔女一樣慘不忍睹還會有人想玩嗎?
但是這一切都是必然,科技是會一直進步的
新一代的家用機性能一定會更強
解析度越高,玩家的眼睛看得見越多東西,你的細節就是要越做越多
做這些需要大量的時間與人力
遊戲界跟唱片業不同,世界再怎麼變化,寫歌錄唱片的成本也不會幾何上升
遊戲就不同了,隨著世代發展開發費用已經到了無法想像的境界
但是真正花在靈魂上面(企劃)的錢沒有跟著幾何成長
所以造成遊戲內容追不上畫面的發展
甚至為了穩定回收成本,對於新遊戲的開發越來越裹足不前
所有的DLC,微交易,F2P,Super AE 猛將傳之colletor's edition威力加強版這些惡質手段
都是為了拯救這艘即將要沉了的大船
老實講,對於未來我比Cliff.B還要更悲觀
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██ あ 必 の 双 き 無 の 精 ▌ ██ ら 衰 色 樹 あ 常 声 舎 ▌
██ は の の り の の ▌ ██ す ▌
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