關於流血技能 - 流亡黯道

Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2014-11-14T01:04

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小弟正在做放血物爆弓的build
天賦點到一半看到"增加持續傷害"
這流血能吃嗎?我知道流血吃物傷和爆擊
板上各位大大能幫我解決嗎?


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Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2014-11-14T11:13
我有點耶XDD我也想問
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2014-11-16T05:35
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Puncture
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2014-11-16T06:44
可以
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2014-11-20T02:10
As a damage over time effect,
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2014-11-20T18:48
Puncture's damage can be affected positively
or negatively by some damage modifiers.
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2014-11-23T20:11
抱歉貼錯段
Donna avatar
By Donna
at 2014-11-25T01:37
總之 可以
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2014-11-27T08:09
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Damage_over_time
然後直接看Active skills底下
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2014-12-01T19:36
那為什麼有一些放血流都沒點?
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2014-12-02T08:40
因為你不會用一招放血打天下
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2014-12-07T05:17
讓他流久一點不如強化初始傷害更直接
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2014-12-10T19:37
還要搭配範圍技吧
Charlie avatar
By Charlie
at 2014-12-11T22:33
你要流久一點那直接串增加持續時間不就更久囉?
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2014-12-15T14:38
樓上那天賦是增加流血的傷害非時間,不過你也沒說錯
強化初始傷害更直接。
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2014-12-16T00:20
因為你點完那整圈也才+45%持續傷,問題是要拉幾點過去?
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2014-12-16T06:38
像我現在農綠門 除了二王之外我都用燃燒箭
單體技能本來就會隨時切換
你點那邊就變成卡死你只能用放血
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2014-12-18T01:04
喔喔~不過應該意思是一樣的!!??不要本末倒置就
好XDD
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2014-12-19T04:26
串持續還不如擊退或逃跑(獨特無效),讓怪動起來流血量更大.
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2014-12-24T04:10
毒箭還比較有可能去點?
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2014-12-24T06:23
bnn大我們本身就會擊退了拉0 30
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2014-12-26T15:27
然後燃燒也可以吃持續傷害,所以也還好不完全卡死?
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2014-12-31T13:12
獨特無效 可是王大半都是獨特啊…ˊˋ
Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2015-01-01T03:42
似乎也是(?) 可是女王本體免疫燃燒阿OAO
然後如果你遇到能冰的怪改打冰霜 你這三顆天賦就真的無
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2015-01-01T21:57
啊,也是.爆弓幾乎都50+了不用擊退
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2015-01-02T22:13
用了。
雖然本身開憎恨就會冰了,可是冰霜會冰比較久XD
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2015-01-03T13:27
那三點持續傷我好像只有看過毒雲流在點 物爆點很浪費點
燃燒箭傷害高阿......
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2015-01-03T21:58
那為什麼要用燃燒箭打ˊˋ乾脆狂怒或毒箭(+30%phy to chaos)
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2015-01-08T03:57
等我不爆擊的打臉弓BUILD吃女王吧! 恩..雖然目前才5X級
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2015-01-08T10:47
燃燒L20基傷130 附加57%物傷 狂怒基傷110三球+36%物傷..
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2015-01-13T03:01
(不燒)燃燒箭固定1.3倍+一些inc%+轉50% / 毒箭最高1.49+DOT
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2015-01-18T02:23
狂怒需要站樁才能發揮綠球攻速的確比較不適合紅綠門.
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2015-01-22T19:57
不過毒箭超頓的~阿對了毒箭接低投的話可以疊嗎?
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2015-01-25T02:00
→覺得毒箭吃魔最後放棄的人O_Q
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2015-01-29T21:18
兩坨DOT不行疊加還會被LMP 30% less降低毒霧傷害
也是,毒箭單體耗魔也很驚人.
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2015-02-03T16:52
燃燒傷害高+耗魔低QQ
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2015-02-05T06:21
不能 因為我小隻毒箭拿會射兩箭的那把 不會變兩倍
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2015-02-06T15:19
玩毒箭當然要塞集中範圍(欸
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2015-02-07T18:21
另外WED這顆寶石也是用燃燒的其中一原因,給很多
傷害
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2015-02-11T22:02
那個雲那個霧ˊ_>ˋ不能疊的話似乎沒這麼猛XDDD
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2015-02-14T08:00
WED會比附加火傷來得好嗎? 問同樣Q20的狀況下
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2015-02-15T23:07
看來是我印象還停留在舊meta BA是廢技的年代XD 改天來玩看看
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2015-02-20T04:18
你用元素單體會 物傷單體不會
btw 單體6L 應該火傷跟WED都會串進去 然後不串爆擊拿球
bnn大!!我燃燒可以破40萬呢哼哼哼
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2015-02-21T08:21
WED對燃燒 冰霜 閃電都很猛但閃電箭已是時代的眼淚QQ
Annie avatar
By Annie
at 2015-02-25T02:43
不過開瓦爾迅捷DPS居然只多5萬 令我非常非常失望。
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2015-02-25T15:54
有轉50%之後WED一般都比AFD好.通常會有憎恨,~115%物轉元素了
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2015-02-28T09:49
燃燒箭崛起是因為現在吃基礎物理傷~以前不吃也只有
小雨千血坦弓會用這招
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2015-03-01T13:02
我測過用放血 火傷>WED 就用5L測 少一顆 DPS輸五千而已
5L分別是 物投傷害 快攻 單體技能 爆傷 +WEDor火傷
這樣下去測
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2015-03-02T13:52
我6L龍捲紅洞只串火傷跟偷血因為可以無腦打反傷(遮臉)
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2015-03-03T18:23
因為放血本身沒有元素傷呀~所以AFD會大於WED
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2015-03-05T03:49
Vaal Haste是拿來當跑速水用的,你誤會了XD
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2015-03-05T20:40
我本來是用冰霜的 配100%穿透 又帥又強又爽 但最後還是
選龍捲了 因為摸到元素反就秒掉了...
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2015-03-07T08:10
對XD
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2015-03-10T03:14
什麼 Vaal Haste 居然是跑速水 哭哭哭哭哭哭
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2015-03-10T23:15
可以請問WED是哪個技能嗎@@
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2015-03-12T08:37
Ice Shot我是有看過一種串法....挺搞笑的..
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2015-03-14T08:17
weapon elemental damage=武器元素傷
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2015-03-18T04:57
冰霜>高階>連鎖>武器元素傷>投射減速....一射畫面都是冰
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2015-03-18T16:44
wife eat dick =wed (?)
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2015-03-21T15:20
不過那傷害之低...真的就只是搞笑用的
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2015-03-25T23:27
我試過冰霜+低投+連鎖~打一坨很有快感XDDDD
其實蠻安全的而且我覺得用低投就不會傷害太低
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2015-03-27T08:08
我是串 冰霜+低階+穿透+附加火+WED+物理投射物 超猛
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2015-03-28T22:31
tony崩壞了大家快陶呀呀呀呀呀呀
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2015-03-29T17:06
IS-WED-GMP-PPAD-chain可以正常當傷害輸出絕對不低.武器要好
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2015-04-03T08:48
我剛想超久的=A=
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2015-04-05T01:50
當年閃電箭GMP chain的威能現在冰霜和燃燒都有了,沒道理不行
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2015-04-06T07:13
冰霜用連鎖地板就全都白白一片~耶誕節可以應景(咦
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2015-04-07T11:15
缺點也完全一樣元素反直接秒殺自己,所以都轉物理靠cwdt不朽
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2015-04-09T10:26
GMP+chain光是傷害就先扣多少了= =" 能有多少傷害OAO
單人刷圖還好 多人這招下去通常是搞笑技&害隊友斷線吧
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2015-04-14T06:34
耗魔爆炸而已啦.帳面dps低些但是清怪自動瞄準的速度一點不輸
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2015-04-15T08:16
不過我覺得除了龍捲用高投~不然其他箭用高投最外側
兩隻常常空射??
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2015-04-18T18:45
似乎其實低投就夠用了??
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2015-04-21T20:01
以前閃電箭5*3*3 舊版AOE特效炸開是真的會斷XD GGG也改掉了
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2015-04-22T00:59
如果是IS>LMP>Fork>chain>WED 說有傷害我比較相信(欸
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2015-04-25T19:26
分裂跟連鎖只會觸發一個唷
Edwina avatar
By Edwina
at 2015-04-26T18:17
只是不知道fork+chain是先分裂還是先連鎖...
只會觸發一個?
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2015-04-29T01:01
記得之前看一個實驗文,分裂會優先連鎖
所以只會分裂不會連
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2015-04-30T21:16
而且閃電箭打到牆一樣可以chainXDD
Ina avatar
By Ina
at 2015-05-01T06:06
fork 0.7 LMP 0.7跟GMP 0.5不是一樣=.= 從5顆變6顆投射物
John avatar
By John
at 2015-05-03T16:01
先分裂,分裂後的投射物都會有連鎖
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2015-05-07T16:02
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Forking#Fork
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2015-05-10T17:18
Example projectile 那這段怎解釋? 應該都有作用吧
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2015-05-12T03:01
只是會先分裂後再計算連鎖
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2015-05-14T10:42
bnn fork lmp lv20的傷害都是正的,可是gmp跟是負的喔
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2015-05-16T08:29
我怎麼記得是穿透>分裂>連鎖 ,然後判定上前者出現的
話則後者都無效?
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2015-05-20T13:50
有穿透的那支箭就不會分裂或連鎖 沒穿透但有分裂的就
不會連鎖 沒穿透也沒分裂 才會連鎖 印象是這樣0.0
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2015-05-21T03:27
啥?負的傷害? L20 GMP不是一樣inc38% proj dmg?
不是,那是因為穿透100%才會一直穿透下去不分裂連鎖
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2015-05-21T14:04
如果50%穿透,骰到不穿透時就會開始分裂,然後連鎖
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2015-05-22T17:36
LMP基礎-30 頂+38 GMP-50 頂+38 怎算都是GMP會低傷吧?
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2015-05-23T10:20
因為穿透是看%數~但如果是分裂就不可能連鎖了
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2015-05-23T22:34
不是這樣算啦...LMP+ inc38%, 0.7倍(30%less)
GMP inc 38%, 0.5倍(50%less). inc%計算上和倍率不是放一起
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2015-05-28T07:12
至於冰霜那串,所以我的想法是不塞穿透直接Fork>Chain阿
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2015-05-30T03:59
但是O.7跟O.5就有差了吧
除非說你五箭都中,不然沒道理會比LMP高吧@@
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2015-06-02T11:55
LMP-chain通常夠了,GMP-chain通常是奢侈版玩爽而已.
因為對群怪DPS 3*0.7=2.1(LMP), 5*0.5=2.5(GMP)
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2015-06-06T10:43
我說的就是基礎值阿...因為你算GMP的前提是五發都中標
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2015-06-07T01:50
這比LMP三發都中標還難吧
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2015-06-07T03:54
fork+chain的話 chain會永遠吃不到~會浪費一個洞
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2015-06-12T03:39
所以說是奢侈版XD 怪還要夠大群打起來才有一發清完45隻的能力
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2015-06-15T17:52
@david: fork-chain先分裂,分裂的投射物都會連鎖.
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2015-06-19T09:28
david你要不要先看Example projectile理的解說@@
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2015-06-21T06:52
新稱號:顯卡破壞者(蓋章
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2015-06-23T19:17
GMP通常就是用在閉著眼睛不瞄準亂掃射用的玩法,比LMP容易打中
如果習慣用分裂箭比較不用瞄的人回去用LMP會很想換GMP
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2015-06-24T08:46
因為我在紅門路上發現GMP只要在門口就會傷害比LMP低...
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2015-06-26T04:15
所以我印象中就直接認定GMP導致傷害降低..(太容易失箭
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2015-06-30T20:34
基本上是一定不會5發全中XD 是給dps太高的人玩的奢侈版
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2015-07-04T00:33
因為除非場地空曠 或是貼身怪 很少有機會五箭全中...
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2015-07-06T23:24
0.0對不起……我一直以為…………
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2015-07-10T21:06
LMP中2 0.7*2=1.4, GMP算中3 0.5*3其實差不多,但耗魔差超多XD
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2015-07-13T19:12
原來分裂之後還能連鎖~長知識了@@
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2015-07-18T15:29
GMP還是給冰霜脈衝那種五發可以疊一起又範圍又穿透最威
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2015-07-19T22:26
gan……好丟臉呀呀呀XDD 睡覺去..
David avatar
By David
at 2015-07-20T18:28
那這個分裂箭的範例是不是就是寫錯了??http://www.g
arenapoe.com/guide/10004
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2015-07-23T00:56
貼壞了http://www.garenapoe.com/guide/10004
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2015-07-26T01:26
對原始投射物來說,fork完就消失了,那顆投射物不能再chain
Ida avatar
By Ida
at 2015-07-26T04:21
所以寫"不觸發chain"某種程度上是對的.但是fork出的子投射物
不能夠再次fork,如果有擊中下一個目標則可以chain
Heather avatar
By Heather
at 2015-07-27T11:32
其實最簡單觀察法就是只用IS>FORK>CHAIN 看看有沒有亂噴
就清楚了
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2015-07-31T16:37
是說我比較好奇tora七等那個讓箭回頭的東西作用是怎樣..
導引箭的概念嗎? 還是? 如果作用在龍捲射擊上會怎樣?
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2015-08-02T03:22
龍捲-擊中-掃射-子投射物擊中-從新的地方向自己射一箭
毒箭-擊中-擊中處毒霧,向自己射一箭-自己腳下毒霧.
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2015-08-03T01:29
好像還有箭雨這個技能呀XDD
David avatar
By David
at 2015-08-03T10:37
回頭箭不能再擊中那初始目標,所以用途還沒開發出來
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2015-08-05T11:59
所以這樣散射龍捲可能變成有效傷害範圍最廣技能嗎(抖
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2015-08-06T04:37
但是要犧牲一個前綴,用傷害換AOE效果的取捨就是了
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2015-08-10T06:05
痾?是前綴? 那就虛掉了= =
Skylar DavisLinda avatar
By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2015-08-11T20:52
或者是50%穿透下穿過第一隻,打第二隻,回頭箭再擊中第一隻
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2015-08-13T22:12
因為我是看http://youtu.be/6JLV1sSn2co 發現連力抽都能
變成瓦爾力抽(誤,如果是攻應該可以作到更廣的傷害範圍
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2015-08-18T15:12
這種聽起來就很不容易發生的用法,用途目前還不明顯可行
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2015-08-21T22:46
大量倚賴光環元素傷的話犧牲一個前綴ok啊.元素光環弓
Carolina Franco avatar
By Carolina Franco
at 2015-08-25T05:25
看來回頭的箭不是普通箭阿 那用冰霜加穿透 如果穿透能
回頭的話 或許就變一堆冰霜往自己射?
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2015-08-28T19:12
而且如果回頭箭也吃的到穿透的話 就一堆箭又AOE一排@@?
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2015-08-31T12:08
啊,都忘了+1+2爆炸箭還可以塞一個前綴,這詞綴也不錯XD
Yedda avatar
By Yedda
at 2015-09-02T06:20
放血是不是點物傷比持弓物傷還好啊?
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2015-09-03T14:45
天賦試點好幾次居然覺得刺客起手比較好@@
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2015-09-03T17:13
看你喔,如果你要走CI放血物爆弓,就要女巫起手,也
看你防禦部分決定起手好壞
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2015-09-04T06:55
龍捲放血爆擊 打算這樣點http://tinyurl.com/orgrnhk
請給意見或者建議 謝謝
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2015-09-04T22:34
貼錯 應該是這版才對http://tinyurl.com/kul8c6p
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2015-09-09T17:51
如果同樣a39的天賦 用遊俠起手 88%閃避會變150%
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2015-09-12T03:17
http://tinyurl.com/oww2s9r 暗刺
Hamiltion avatar
By Hamiltion
at 2015-09-15T21:52
http://tinyurl.com/n9sjp6c 游俠
Mary avatar
By Mary
at 2015-09-16T23:21
可是少了一堆純物傷 值得嗎??
Una avatar
By Una
at 2015-09-19T03:50
http://ppt.cc/YwvW 上游俠 下暗刺 自己斟酌0.0
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2015-09-23T04:44
因為我不知道8%攻速要用多少%物傷才換得到
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2015-09-27T11:00
再說了遊俠跟刺客血都這麼少的狀況下 閃避還低 嗯...
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2015-09-30T06:39
至於你說少的純物傷,也只是起始門口的差別
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2015-10-03T14:13
如果就放血來說 應該刺客傷害會高一些吧
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2015-10-07T06:37
或者遊俠起始不走血閃 直接走攻速 攻速差距會更大..
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2015-10-07T08:57
而且master of force 6點總加也才40物傷
Puput avatar
By Puput
at 2015-10-11T03:07
可是MASTER FLETCHER 四點42%+2攻速...
Odelette avatar
By Odelette
at 2015-10-13T16:27
http://tinyurl.com/meqz64w a39參考看看
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2015-10-18T02:51
就算把master fletcher旁邊的20命中取消 還可以多一天賦
傷害會比你原本的還高 至於生存面是一樣就是了...|||
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2015-10-18T23:56
我點master of force是為了放血 不然那圈CP不高
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2015-10-22T19:42
純物傷跟投射傷對放血有二次加成 持續性傷害有加成到
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2015-10-26T19:54
投射傷的%都偏低CP低 所以我的天賦以點到純物傷為主
Freda avatar
By Freda
at 2015-10-31T09:58
所以MASTER FLETCHER才被我捨棄 不然42%很誘人XD
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2015-11-02T16:37
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Puncture 請參考
Delia avatar
By Delia
at 2015-11-07T03:03
你說得好像放血不吃master fletcher的dmg with bow....
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2015-11-09T17:15
喔你是要後面DOT的傷害喔? 要這樣為啥不乾脆直接用燃燒
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2015-11-14T15:33
箭矢直接單轟女王分身階段就好OAO"?
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2015-11-19T14:49
而且放血第一下還是吃MasterFletcher阿= ="
Una avatar
By Una
at 2015-11-24T02:01
因為我看到 陷阱-零點-物理投 這三個傷害加成都是"More"
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2015-11-24T23:29
加上天賦暴擊擊退強迫位移(爬文說有效) 應該非常的暴力
Irma avatar
By Irma
at 2015-11-27T04:16
痾? 擊退那圈還是有點阿 你是不是搞錯啥了XD
Tristan Cohan avatar
By Tristan Cohan
at 2015-12-01T20:27
痾? 我沒說沒點啊 你是不是搞錯啥了XD
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2015-12-01T22:33
那為啥要講到擊退? 那個跟master fletcher無關吧?
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2015-12-06T00:51
再說MASTER FLETCHER是dmg with weapon不是Projectile..
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2015-12-10T17:57
42% Physical dmg with Bows 不是"投射物"
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2015-12-11T03:36
喔我是在講想玩放血的原因啦
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2015-12-14T23:24
因為你提燃燒箭@@

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