關於Xbox One機制回歸的感想 - XBOX

By Mason
at 2013-06-20T10:10
at 2013-06-20T10:10
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小弟有幸三機制霸(XBOX360+PS3+Wii)
XBOX360還是2006年在新光三越排首賣的 <--隔天三紅XD, 換機回來一個月又三紅
不過仍舊不減對微軟的支持
我不是零售商相關人員
不過我覺得您說因為零售商為了自身利益所以試圖阻止遊戲片數位化機制
其實不是很公平的說法
畢竟當年PlayStaion 2的獨大
微軟能用一代XBOX殺出重圍 <--碰巧 小弟也有一代XBOX
零售商對微軟的支持是功不可沒
這層合作關係一直延續到了今天
當然零售商也不是笨蛋, 把雞蛋放在同一個籃子裡
會支持微軟也同樣支持索尼
至少我目前沒有看過哪家零售通路是只放一家微軟or索尼 <--任天堂阿嬤表示:囧
微軟的DRM機制如果當初不搭配數位下載的話
對零售商的殺傷力其實不大
目前的做法是 數位下載遊戲比較便宜一點, 但是跟著帳號走無法轉售
實體光碟雖然貴一些, 但是玩家有交換或是販賣的權利
可是當DRM機制上路, 你買了實體光碟, 想賣還得多一筆額外的轉移費用
微軟打的如意算盤可能是這筆轉移費用要跟零售商拆帳
就如你所說的創造一個新的數位交易平台跟環境
不過如此一來實體光碟的便利性其實對玩家就失去吸引力了
(實體光碟的交流, 本來就應該像索尼那部youtube影片一樣簡單才對)
那將來玩家都走隨選下載就好了, 幹嘛還買比較貴一些的實體光碟?
這衝擊到的層面很廣
不光是零售通路, 包括壓片工廠, 包裝商...等等
等於過去支持微軟的這些夥伴被微軟背棄了
人家微軟都要搞數位化了, 這些魯蛇還能賣什麼? 賣空氣嗎?
那他們只剩下被逼得轉向支持索尼這條路而已 <--任天堂阿嬤表示:阮還沒的選...
我相信微軟不是那種玩家寫寫e-mail, fb譙一譙, 還是去扔扔雞蛋就會軟掉的公司
這次微軟會白海豚轉彎
肯定背後有更大的壓力push他們改變政策
如果今天零售通路都轉向索尼, 不賣微軟的產品
以台灣為例
大家想買xbox one的實體光碟大概只能去黃色佛堂買了 <--沒辦法 他們還有電腦要賣
題外話
如果我是微軟的市場決策者
我要推DRM也是要等到把索尼被皇上下令拘捕後再推DRM
肯定是先端出很多牛肉把市占率搶下來
再來就隨便愛怎麼玩就怎麼玩了
最好的例子可以看看頭又大汽車...
和泰汽車表示:「嘖! 佛山沒一個能打的」
※ 引述《zsyian (zsyian)》之銘言:
: 首先,這不是什麼"市場競爭進步論的結果"
: 從 Xbox One 的數位授權宣布以來,網路上有來自各路人馬的反對聲音
: 有真的想玩Xbox One,但家裡或環境卻苦無網路的人
: 有捍衛實體擁有權的人道之士
: 有因為平台之爭,看到微軟就打的
: 有因為自身利益,而試圖期望數位版不要發生的人 (DRM機制影響最大的是零售店)
: 綜合這零零總總,網路上除了真正玩家的抱怨之外
: 有更多的是陰謀論、造謠和抹黑,儘管一一澄清,但傷害還是造成
: 所以,我不覺得這是所謂的"市場競爭"
: 下個世代,兩台主機的效能差異不大,兩家的遊戲又各自有支持者
: 能夠做出差異化的是在"服務"本身
: 一開始看到微軟推出DRM機制的瞬間,覺得完蛋了,怎麼這麼笨
: 但仔細思考運作機制後,發現微軟的全面數位化是可以製造很多有利的商業模式的
: 包含數位交易,遊戲出租等等的服務
: 不同的服務模式會激盪出不同的火花,這才比較像是市場的多元競爭
: 現在看到一切回歸到舊的體制,真是難掩失望之情
: 或許可以期待實體版和數位版並存的機制
: 實體版維持傳統交易,數位版維持Xbox One最初宣布的政策
: 可是,現在連這個期望也不太可能發生
: 因為沒有"24小時連線檢查",就不可能做出10人分享,沒有檢查機制會造成濫用
: 數位版唯一的好處,大概就只剩下免遊戲片和擁有自己的數位遊戲庫
: 補充:24小時連線檢查,是全面取消,不是只有實體版
: http://majornelson.com/2013/06/19/your-feedback-matters-update-on-xbox-one/
: "If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline
: just like you do today."
: 關於"二手"的討論,可以看我在巴哈貼文
: http://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=60001&snA=28099&tnum=9
: 現在兩個平台政策一致了,或許大家可以比較平靜的思考這個問題
--
XBOX360還是2006年在新光三越排首賣的 <--隔天三紅XD, 換機回來一個月又三紅
不過仍舊不減對微軟的支持
我不是零售商相關人員
不過我覺得您說因為零售商為了自身利益所以試圖阻止遊戲片數位化機制
其實不是很公平的說法
畢竟當年PlayStaion 2的獨大
微軟能用一代XBOX殺出重圍 <--碰巧 小弟也有一代XBOX
零售商對微軟的支持是功不可沒
這層合作關係一直延續到了今天
當然零售商也不是笨蛋, 把雞蛋放在同一個籃子裡
會支持微軟也同樣支持索尼
至少我目前沒有看過哪家零售通路是只放一家微軟or索尼 <--任天堂阿嬤表示:囧
微軟的DRM機制如果當初不搭配數位下載的話
對零售商的殺傷力其實不大
目前的做法是 數位下載遊戲比較便宜一點, 但是跟著帳號走無法轉售
實體光碟雖然貴一些, 但是玩家有交換或是販賣的權利
可是當DRM機制上路, 你買了實體光碟, 想賣還得多一筆額外的轉移費用
微軟打的如意算盤可能是這筆轉移費用要跟零售商拆帳
就如你所說的創造一個新的數位交易平台跟環境
不過如此一來實體光碟的便利性其實對玩家就失去吸引力了
(實體光碟的交流, 本來就應該像索尼那部youtube影片一樣簡單才對)
那將來玩家都走隨選下載就好了, 幹嘛還買比較貴一些的實體光碟?
這衝擊到的層面很廣
不光是零售通路, 包括壓片工廠, 包裝商...等等
等於過去支持微軟的這些夥伴被微軟背棄了
人家微軟都要搞數位化了, 這些魯蛇還能賣什麼? 賣空氣嗎?
那他們只剩下被逼得轉向支持索尼這條路而已 <--任天堂阿嬤表示:阮還沒的選...
我相信微軟不是那種玩家寫寫e-mail, fb譙一譙, 還是去扔扔雞蛋就會軟掉的公司
這次微軟會白海豚轉彎
肯定背後有更大的壓力push他們改變政策
如果今天零售通路都轉向索尼, 不賣微軟的產品
以台灣為例
大家想買xbox one的實體光碟大概只能去黃色佛堂買了 <--沒辦法 他們還有電腦要賣
題外話
如果我是微軟的市場決策者
我要推DRM也是要等到把索尼被皇上下令拘捕後再推DRM
肯定是先端出很多牛肉把市占率搶下來
再來就隨便愛怎麼玩就怎麼玩了
最好的例子可以看看頭又大汽車...
和泰汽車表示:「嘖! 佛山沒一個能打的」
※ 引述《zsyian (zsyian)》之銘言:
: 首先,這不是什麼"市場競爭進步論的結果"
: 從 Xbox One 的數位授權宣布以來,網路上有來自各路人馬的反對聲音
: 有真的想玩Xbox One,但家裡或環境卻苦無網路的人
: 有捍衛實體擁有權的人道之士
: 有因為平台之爭,看到微軟就打的
: 有因為自身利益,而試圖期望數位版不要發生的人 (DRM機制影響最大的是零售店)
: 綜合這零零總總,網路上除了真正玩家的抱怨之外
: 有更多的是陰謀論、造謠和抹黑,儘管一一澄清,但傷害還是造成
: 所以,我不覺得這是所謂的"市場競爭"
: 下個世代,兩台主機的效能差異不大,兩家的遊戲又各自有支持者
: 能夠做出差異化的是在"服務"本身
: 一開始看到微軟推出DRM機制的瞬間,覺得完蛋了,怎麼這麼笨
: 但仔細思考運作機制後,發現微軟的全面數位化是可以製造很多有利的商業模式的
: 包含數位交易,遊戲出租等等的服務
: 不同的服務模式會激盪出不同的火花,這才比較像是市場的多元競爭
: 現在看到一切回歸到舊的體制,真是難掩失望之情
: 或許可以期待實體版和數位版並存的機制
: 實體版維持傳統交易,數位版維持Xbox One最初宣布的政策
: 可是,現在連這個期望也不太可能發生
: 因為沒有"24小時連線檢查",就不可能做出10人分享,沒有檢查機制會造成濫用
: 數位版唯一的好處,大概就只剩下免遊戲片和擁有自己的數位遊戲庫
: 補充:24小時連線檢查,是全面取消,不是只有實體版
: http://majornelson.com/2013/06/19/your-feedback-matters-update-on-xbox-one/
: "If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline
: just like you do today."
: 關於"二手"的討論,可以看我在巴哈貼文
: http://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=60001&snA=28099&tnum=9
: 現在兩個平台政策一致了,或許大家可以比較平靜的思考這個問題
--
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