鈴木裕:募的到1000萬鎂就有望作成開放世界 - PS

By Zora
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※ 引述《ozil23 (才高九斗無人問)》之銘言:
: 我覺得這真得很扯 之前在E3展說目標2M
: 結果現在看到玩家熱情贊助(目前已經超過3.4M)
: 馬上跳出來說 如果超過10M就做成開放世界哦~~~~~
: 這根本是在利用玩家的善良 標準邪惡商人的手法
: 就像台灣的線上遊戲公司的活動 只要儲值超過1000點就可以抽特殊神裝哦~~
: 有沒有很像? 根本一模一樣的手法啊
: 我嚴重懷疑我之前捐款的到底是什麼製作團隊...這手法跟大學生辦活動拉贊助差不多
: 假如達標10M是不是又要跳出來 如果到達20M 我就製作免費DLC?
: 希望鈴木先生的製作團隊 還是自己去找一下贊助廠商吧
: 不要只想靠那些 不懂你們手法的無知玩家 來給你們錢
: 當你們的金主 這樣真的 好嗎?
不知道你是無知還是釣魚? 算了, 這餌我吃了.
先說 Kickstarter 運作, 先設定一個基本目標, 然後會有沿伸目標, 所有的KS都是這樣
運作的. 你都說你有捐了, 你會不知道KS的方式嗎? 有多少錢做多少事.
鈴木裕有說莎木3在資金有限情況下, 他只能設定重要性先後順序, 首要目標是把故事說
完給玩家一個交代. 半開玩笑2M搞不好只有一個AVG.
資金每增加ㄧ些他就可以多找人來多做ㄧ些事情, The Witcher 2 開發約用了15M, 3代
大概25M. CDPR還是業界很省的團隊. 所以鈴木裕說10M做open world還低估不少.
贊助商? 鈴木裕說他找了14年了, 直到前年稻船建議他走募資他才開始這個籌備. 莎木
前兩代可是有很慘烈的開發銷售紀錄 (70M有點托大了那其實是把開發引擎都算入, 當年
可沒有UE4便宜用), ㄧ般的金主會想要把錢拿來打水漂?
Sega勒? Sony勒?
Sega 說讓鈴木無條件用莎木的IP, 但他不出錢, 陰影太大.
Sony 是用獨立製作來支援莎木3, 基本上會幫忙技術與行銷, 會投ㄧ些錢但絕對不是梭
哈. 鈴木裕有說這次的開發費用大部分都會是KS來的.
為何暫時沒有PS4實體版? 因為這是indi, 是預設為獨力發行, 所以只有PC&PSN數位板.
要有實體片要有發行商publisher, 看來暫時沒有人要下海. 不過等募款上去搞不好
Sega or Sony會願意發行. (五十嵐孝司狀況不一樣, 他是已經找好發行商了所以一開始
就有實體版的目標)
莎木1&2的版權還是Sega, 所以會不會有HD跟鈴木裕無關. 但如果KS大成功, Sega應該有
機率會放出PSN版 (聽說已經做好了, 之前一系列移植DC遊戲到PSN上, 只是銷售普普,
所以取消了後續title的移植)
Sony 很給鈴木面子了, E3給他一個獨立舞臺, 如果不是E3, 募款不可能這麼快達標的.
但是現在大家在抱怨的是, 莎木3的KS宣傳團隊很鳥, 相比IGA的團隊, 專業度差很多.
IGA有一系列目標的炒熱不讓募款冷下來. 莎木現在整個冷掉, 團隊也沒有特別的動作.
還有20多天, 看看會不會加強宣傳吧. IGA的KS可說是我看過最專業的前幾名.
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: 我覺得這真得很扯 之前在E3展說目標2M
: 結果現在看到玩家熱情贊助(目前已經超過3.4M)
: 馬上跳出來說 如果超過10M就做成開放世界哦~~~~~
: 這根本是在利用玩家的善良 標準邪惡商人的手法
: 就像台灣的線上遊戲公司的活動 只要儲值超過1000點就可以抽特殊神裝哦~~
: 有沒有很像? 根本一模一樣的手法啊
: 我嚴重懷疑我之前捐款的到底是什麼製作團隊...這手法跟大學生辦活動拉贊助差不多
: 假如達標10M是不是又要跳出來 如果到達20M 我就製作免費DLC?
: 希望鈴木先生的製作團隊 還是自己去找一下贊助廠商吧
: 不要只想靠那些 不懂你們手法的無知玩家 來給你們錢
: 當你們的金主 這樣真的 好嗎?
不知道你是無知還是釣魚? 算了, 這餌我吃了.
先說 Kickstarter 運作, 先設定一個基本目標, 然後會有沿伸目標, 所有的KS都是這樣
運作的. 你都說你有捐了, 你會不知道KS的方式嗎? 有多少錢做多少事.
鈴木裕有說莎木3在資金有限情況下, 他只能設定重要性先後順序, 首要目標是把故事說
完給玩家一個交代. 半開玩笑2M搞不好只有一個AVG.
資金每增加ㄧ些他就可以多找人來多做ㄧ些事情, The Witcher 2 開發約用了15M, 3代
大概25M. CDPR還是業界很省的團隊. 所以鈴木裕說10M做open world還低估不少.
贊助商? 鈴木裕說他找了14年了, 直到前年稻船建議他走募資他才開始這個籌備. 莎木
前兩代可是有很慘烈的開發銷售紀錄 (70M有點托大了那其實是把開發引擎都算入, 當年
可沒有UE4便宜用), ㄧ般的金主會想要把錢拿來打水漂?
Sega勒? Sony勒?
Sega 說讓鈴木無條件用莎木的IP, 但他不出錢, 陰影太大.
Sony 是用獨立製作來支援莎木3, 基本上會幫忙技術與行銷, 會投ㄧ些錢但絕對不是梭
哈. 鈴木裕有說這次的開發費用大部分都會是KS來的.
為何暫時沒有PS4實體版? 因為這是indi, 是預設為獨力發行, 所以只有PC&PSN數位板.
要有實體片要有發行商publisher, 看來暫時沒有人要下海. 不過等募款上去搞不好
Sega or Sony會願意發行. (五十嵐孝司狀況不一樣, 他是已經找好發行商了所以一開始
就有實體版的目標)
莎木1&2的版權還是Sega, 所以會不會有HD跟鈴木裕無關. 但如果KS大成功, Sega應該有
機率會放出PSN版 (聽說已經做好了, 之前一系列移植DC遊戲到PSN上, 只是銷售普普,
所以取消了後續title的移植)
Sony 很給鈴木面子了, E3給他一個獨立舞臺, 如果不是E3, 募款不可能這麼快達標的.
但是現在大家在抱怨的是, 莎木3的KS宣傳團隊很鳥, 相比IGA的團隊, 專業度差很多.
IGA有一系列目標的炒熱不讓募款冷下來. 莎木現在整個冷掉, 團隊也沒有特別的動作.
還有20多天, 看看會不會加強宣傳吧. IGA的KS可說是我看過最專業的前幾名.
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