請教一個Martial_Power的Power - TRPG
By Elma
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※ 引述《LiouKen (小龜)》之銘言:
: 非常高興的有人跟我的想法相同,不過這是錯的
: 之前與朋友討論OA跟Combat Challeng時他寫信問WotC,官方回應如下
: Q: does the fighter enjoy an "extra" attack of opportunity against
: the marked enemy, if the marked enemy shift and attack the fighter?
: --I should clarify the attack you make with Combat Challenge
: is a Melee Basic Attack, not an opportunity attack.If a
: marked enemy shifts then attacks someone other than your fighter,
: you would get to make a basic melee attack for the shift,
: and a basic melee attack for the attack that did not include you,
: providing the enemy is still within melee range after
: shifting
: 所以答案是兩次,基本上應該要說只要能滿足Trigger,就可以無限次
: 雖然我個人對這個答案並非十分信服,覺得PHB文字敘述上有瑕疵
: 但是我想主要是因為對英文語意的語感不同為主因
: 官方回應中強調Combat Challenge is a Melee Basic Attack
: 而後面的you can make a melee basic attack agains that enemy
: as an immediate interrupt,
: 是as an immediate interrupt而非is an immediate interrupt,
: 也就是Combat Challeng的動作方式比照immediate interrupt的處理方式,但是它並不是
: 一個immediate interrupt的動作而是一個Melee Basic Attack,
: 所以並不受immediate action once per round的限制
我比較在意的是 wotc 的回答是否正確
我們翻到 phb 的第 268 頁關於 immediate action 的解釋:
* Once per round : You can take only one immediate action per round,
either an immediate interrupt or an immediate reaction.
該頁很明確的認定了 immediate action 包括了
immediate interrupt 跟 immediate reaction。
關鍵不在於 melee basic attack。
我認為wotc的回答有誤,他忘記了這個 attack 是 immediate interrupt。
另外,as 就是 as ,如果按照你的說法, A as B ,
A 只是跟 B 在某些特性上相同而不是 B 的話,
官方會用 as if ,並且隨後加註,
4 版目前這樣的規則很少出現,
大部分都是 3.5 後期的延伸規則有這樣的用法。
而且,我認為,
就算到最後官方覺得戰士可以因為 shift 了打一下、打不是你的人再打一下,
我也覺得這是個失敗的規則修正,
4 板大部分的地方就是為了要簡化而出發的,
卻只有這個地方特別設例外,我認為大可不必按照這個規則走,
以方便 dm 跟玩家直觀判定比較好。
: 依照這樣的邏輯回到原po的問題中
: (上為Combat Challeng,下為Spitting-Cobra Stance)
: you can make a melee basic attack agains that enemy as an immediate interrupt
: you can make a ranged basic attack as an opportunity action against any enemy
: within 5 squares of you that moves closer to you.
: 那麼,Spitting-Cobra Stance應該也是只要能滿足trigger就能無限次發動才是
: 不知這樣的推論是否正確?
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