莎木1&2 remaster 發售日確定 - PS

By Susan
at 2018-07-04T23:04
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這款遊戲不是這樣玩的, 這可是當年的神作
怎麼神法呢? 啟發了後世許多製作的idea, 卻也讓sega幾乎倒閉的神與惡魔之作
但我個人還是很愛這遊戲的, 首先要玩這遊戲
你得先帶著跟現在不同的心態, 這遊戲是要有魂的投入
莎木所謂世界, 並不是一堆帥氣的裝備, 車槍球
或是充滿勁爆的角色劇情誇張演出
他的重點可以說就是路人
沒錯, 你要是一個喜歡觀察路人, 很有興趣知道你生活的這世界
這些NPC到底在幹嘛的? 隔壁大嬸在聊什麼? 大叔去哪上班?
隔壁同學新買了機車? 或是同校女同學似乎有點害羞??
那就對了, 整個橫須賀小鎮, 所有路人連打工的大叔
都會跟你互動, 而不是罐頭NPC, 或人工智障
以前呢, RPG就一個圖像一個NPC放著一段對話
現在呢, Open World, 一堆NPC只剩殺人或被殺, 他們甚至不會對話只會發出吼叫
主角呢, 就像是一個到了瘋狂世界, 只能觸發事件, 其他與你無關
剩下全部都是免洗路人, 已經連話都不會講, 只會發出罐頭聲然後逃跑
有特別劇情還跟你說這是彩蛋..?
就我來看, 這根本是一種倒退呀
因為20年前莎木建構的世界, 是沒有免洗的
是由彩蛋構成的世界, 全部都與你生活有關
每個時間, 每段劇情, 這些路人都是持續在莎木世界生活的
除非你有分身, 不然你要瞭解每個NPC的生活, 幾乎是不太可能的
這是可以個真正不管主線的 FREE 遊戲 (而且還有荒廢的劇情結局)
所以他希望的是, 玩家真正投入在這個建構的世界裡
且跟著橫須賀還有劇情時移
這樣你轉蛋就有意義, 你的管家婆婆也賦予了生命
橫須賀也活了起來, 甚至你太晚回家她還會擔心
要是GTA, 半夜三點還在殺罐頭人, who cares?
莎木全部人都不是免洗, 也沒有罐頭對話, 或莫名的吼叫然後走到不該走的地方
而互動, 也全部都是隨著橫須賀時移變化的
他們是有羈絆的, 他們全都關心主角, 也會互相關心八卦
還會聊你小時候怎樣, 長大怎樣, 最近有沒有幹嘛, 出事了也會幫你關心給你線索
所以這款遊戲才如此緩慢, 但也可見出野心如此宏大
試想全NPC都不是免洗, 全NPC皆可對話不罐頭的GTA
可能小富連好萊屋大道都走不完
我想這才是鈴木的原本構想, 但也因此只能拆章節, 做出來的也就一個小橫須賀而已
但在這當年已經是一個極為超前的做法了
當然我相信一堆人看到這, 也就知道莎木無聊在哪了
事後銷量證明, 大多數玩家根本不在乎這些"鳥事"
他們要的就是驚爆的劇情, 充滿魄力的過場, 還有極富哲理的劇情
系統邏輯縝密, 還不能太有作業感, 當然高畫質再來個史詩音樂是基本
地圖越大越好, NPC物件塞滿滿, 即使根本就是沒意義的random產生
以上, 莎木完全沒有, 甚至做錯重點
他很細心地藏了一堆你要幾點幾分遇到誰, 才會出現的極度平淡劇情與對話
不會掉寶, 也不會產生新任務, 就只是讓你知道了有這樣的橫須賀二三事罷了
而主線更是老梗了無新意, 你完全猜的到下一步
戰鬥系統本來就沒打算要給你有戰鬥為主的遊戲快感
(但必須說莎木的戰鬥挺好玩的, 打擊感很好)
這就是為何神作與失敗作兼具的一款劃時代遊戲
然而這在當時, 是有極為優質的聲光作為支持
去營造一個前所未有這樣子的橫須賀小鎮
有國外玩家實際逛過, 發現幾乎完全神還原
而現在大家看了只會懷疑這是否畫面哪裡好?
這裡也出現了個大差異
就是不管GTA, 刺客教條, 等等以場景為名的Open World
所謂的畫面好, 其實都已經做到比現實世界還美了
真的有去過倫敦, 埃及, 甚至希臘, 或在LA生活過的
就知道這不叫做真實, 根本是美如畫, 美化過頭
而莎木的World, 是花了很多錢卻做到醜如真 XD
家裡冰箱, 出門斜坡, 那個公園, 電線竿, 都給你很樸素地放在那邊
因為現實世界那個小鎮就是這樣而已, 而且芭月家已經很漂亮了
所以那個感動, 是一種你看到你家巷口大嬸, 出現在遊戲上的感動 (?)
但相信99%玩家不care, 我看那要幹嘛!?
所以莎木建置的世界, 就幾近失敗
而二章, 就是濃縮一堆的半成品, 但卻被評為好玩了
因為他把橫須賀以上這些大多數人都不在乎的要素拿掉
盡量讓玩家貼著主線走, 跟妹子多相處, 然後趕進度
所以對於一些人來說, 一章簡直就是心中的神作
因為現在一堆遊戲再怎麼史詩, 你只知道就是一堆免洗NPC
還有互相抄襲系統邏輯, 其他就只看男帥女美上演各種誇張劇情
就這樣
總是有那麼一少群人, 覺得這是很無聊的事
很多人的鳥事, 也是很多人心中的珍貴
在那個小世界裡, 我真的會掛心管家婆婆
我的同學們, 更不用說貴章還有小望了
近期有點這味道的應該就是天國降臨, 當然也出現了這樣極度兩極的評價
但遊戲史上應該是要更多一些類似這種的遊戲
雖然不一定賣得好, 但是會啟發很多人, 開啟後世更多創意
這就是為何那麼多業內外人士都愛莎木的原因
而且那是20年前
以上看完, 與自己期待相差的, 也建議可以不用入手
我可以跟你說整個一章最感動的地方
就是一個男生一句都不說, 騎機車載著女生
完全沒感覺的, 莎木不會有你想要的
但人中之龍就懂得把它撿起來了, 還長賣到現在
差不多就是這味道
--
怎麼神法呢? 啟發了後世許多製作的idea, 卻也讓sega幾乎倒閉的神與惡魔之作
但我個人還是很愛這遊戲的, 首先要玩這遊戲
你得先帶著跟現在不同的心態, 這遊戲是要有魂的投入
莎木所謂世界, 並不是一堆帥氣的裝備, 車槍球
或是充滿勁爆的角色劇情誇張演出
他的重點可以說就是路人
沒錯, 你要是一個喜歡觀察路人, 很有興趣知道你生活的這世界
這些NPC到底在幹嘛的? 隔壁大嬸在聊什麼? 大叔去哪上班?
隔壁同學新買了機車? 或是同校女同學似乎有點害羞??
那就對了, 整個橫須賀小鎮, 所有路人連打工的大叔
都會跟你互動, 而不是罐頭NPC, 或人工智障
以前呢, RPG就一個圖像一個NPC放著一段對話
現在呢, Open World, 一堆NPC只剩殺人或被殺, 他們甚至不會對話只會發出吼叫
主角呢, 就像是一個到了瘋狂世界, 只能觸發事件, 其他與你無關
剩下全部都是免洗路人, 已經連話都不會講, 只會發出罐頭聲然後逃跑
有特別劇情還跟你說這是彩蛋..?
就我來看, 這根本是一種倒退呀
因為20年前莎木建構的世界, 是沒有免洗的
是由彩蛋構成的世界, 全部都與你生活有關
每個時間, 每段劇情, 這些路人都是持續在莎木世界生活的
除非你有分身, 不然你要瞭解每個NPC的生活, 幾乎是不太可能的
這是可以個真正不管主線的 FREE 遊戲 (而且還有荒廢的劇情結局)
所以他希望的是, 玩家真正投入在這個建構的世界裡
且跟著橫須賀還有劇情時移
這樣你轉蛋就有意義, 你的管家婆婆也賦予了生命
橫須賀也活了起來, 甚至你太晚回家她還會擔心
要是GTA, 半夜三點還在殺罐頭人, who cares?
莎木全部人都不是免洗, 也沒有罐頭對話, 或莫名的吼叫然後走到不該走的地方
而互動, 也全部都是隨著橫須賀時移變化的
他們是有羈絆的, 他們全都關心主角, 也會互相關心八卦
還會聊你小時候怎樣, 長大怎樣, 最近有沒有幹嘛, 出事了也會幫你關心給你線索
所以這款遊戲才如此緩慢, 但也可見出野心如此宏大
試想全NPC都不是免洗, 全NPC皆可對話不罐頭的GTA
可能小富連好萊屋大道都走不完
我想這才是鈴木的原本構想, 但也因此只能拆章節, 做出來的也就一個小橫須賀而已
但在這當年已經是一個極為超前的做法了
當然我相信一堆人看到這, 也就知道莎木無聊在哪了
事後銷量證明, 大多數玩家根本不在乎這些"鳥事"
他們要的就是驚爆的劇情, 充滿魄力的過場, 還有極富哲理的劇情
系統邏輯縝密, 還不能太有作業感, 當然高畫質再來個史詩音樂是基本
地圖越大越好, NPC物件塞滿滿, 即使根本就是沒意義的random產生
以上, 莎木完全沒有, 甚至做錯重點
他很細心地藏了一堆你要幾點幾分遇到誰, 才會出現的極度平淡劇情與對話
不會掉寶, 也不會產生新任務, 就只是讓你知道了有這樣的橫須賀二三事罷了
而主線更是老梗了無新意, 你完全猜的到下一步
戰鬥系統本來就沒打算要給你有戰鬥為主的遊戲快感
(但必須說莎木的戰鬥挺好玩的, 打擊感很好)
這就是為何神作與失敗作兼具的一款劃時代遊戲
然而這在當時, 是有極為優質的聲光作為支持
去營造一個前所未有這樣子的橫須賀小鎮
有國外玩家實際逛過, 發現幾乎完全神還原
而現在大家看了只會懷疑這是否畫面哪裡好?
這裡也出現了個大差異
就是不管GTA, 刺客教條, 等等以場景為名的Open World
所謂的畫面好, 其實都已經做到比現實世界還美了
真的有去過倫敦, 埃及, 甚至希臘, 或在LA生活過的
就知道這不叫做真實, 根本是美如畫, 美化過頭
而莎木的World, 是花了很多錢卻做到醜如真 XD
家裡冰箱, 出門斜坡, 那個公園, 電線竿, 都給你很樸素地放在那邊
因為現實世界那個小鎮就是這樣而已, 而且芭月家已經很漂亮了
所以那個感動, 是一種你看到你家巷口大嬸, 出現在遊戲上的感動 (?)
但相信99%玩家不care, 我看那要幹嘛!?
所以莎木建置的世界, 就幾近失敗
而二章, 就是濃縮一堆的半成品, 但卻被評為好玩了
因為他把橫須賀以上這些大多數人都不在乎的要素拿掉
盡量讓玩家貼著主線走, 跟妹子多相處, 然後趕進度
所以對於一些人來說, 一章簡直就是心中的神作
因為現在一堆遊戲再怎麼史詩, 你只知道就是一堆免洗NPC
還有互相抄襲系統邏輯, 其他就只看男帥女美上演各種誇張劇情
就這樣
總是有那麼一少群人, 覺得這是很無聊的事
很多人的鳥事, 也是很多人心中的珍貴
在那個小世界裡, 我真的會掛心管家婆婆
我的同學們, 更不用說貴章還有小望了
近期有點這味道的應該就是天國降臨, 當然也出現了這樣極度兩極的評價
但遊戲史上應該是要更多一些類似這種的遊戲
雖然不一定賣得好, 但是會啟發很多人, 開啟後世更多創意
這就是為何那麼多業內外人士都愛莎木的原因
而且那是20年前
以上看完, 與自己期待相差的, 也建議可以不用入手
我可以跟你說整個一章最感動的地方
就是一個男生一句都不說, 騎機車載著女生
完全沒感覺的, 莎木不會有你想要的
但人中之龍就懂得把它撿起來了, 還長賣到現在
差不多就是這味道
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