現在大秘生態 - WOW

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臨時休團,順便聊聊
其實問題不光在於"難",而是難度曲線&回饋機制設計有問題
現狀是中層玩家沒有相應的回饋,高不成低不就,他看到的只剩屬於高層玩家的那些
於是就變成眼高手低、被菁英玩家各種秀優越,嘲諷你不如一刀999、掃蕩領大禮包等等
實例來說,相較7版,8、9版大秘個人認為最瞎的改動就是把暴君跟強悍換到2層
然後賽季辭綴放在10層,官方欽定你打不到10層就不配體驗賽季的主打內容
你新手、你菜,你甚至都不配參與核心玩法,我就沒見過誰家這樣積極勸退新手的
暴君/強悍放在2層,搞得難度梯度一點都不合理,結果打9層反而比10層難,WTF
然後小怪技能茫茫多,一個怪5個技能2種要斷1個要驅,不預習就等著被教訓
打個5人本都要聚精會神,稍有失誤就滅團、黑key,學習成本高到不行
反觀7版,艾薩拉螃蟹地精一大波,鬼船小怪帶著連BOSS,拉了就是一通AAAAA
那種單純的快樂,我現在回想起來都還有點小興奮
8、9版打個大秘痛苦一堆然後報酬呢? 現版本的獎勵真的是趨近於0,我連低保都懶得打
泰坦跟隨機橘這種東西見仁見智,提到這個又是吵個沒完,反正我個人喜歡,我就賭狗
至少從客觀角度,以LEG版本玩家人數跟預組活躍度來看,說它非常成功應該沒得反對
暴雪現在最大問題就是它一直要跟菁英玩家對著幹,好像這樣就能產生"電競"
不停的增加難度,不斷地設置障礙,結果搞半天MDI觀賞性還是爛如屎
反而是破壞了大部分普通玩家的遊戲體驗
不是說一定要多簡單無腦、一刀999才好,而是你要把難度曲線設計的合理
上限可以高啊,比如每賽季不只15層,往上全20、25、30限時都有成就
高手可以有酷炫屌霸狂的坐騎、外觀等等,讓精英玩家愛挑戰的自己去
但是你也要讓人口大眾的中層玩家有點目標、有東西玩啊
現在怪打人這麼痛,坦仇恨這麼低,除DHT以外玩其他坦都是自找不痛快
AOE上限我去你X的,搞得一切圍繞火法爆發做核心,其他隊友全當陪襯的打工小弟
學習成本高,導致預組找人彼此無法信任,容錯性又低只好挑最優解不然高機率黑+滅
於是職業歧視嚴重,非優勢職業你就沒遊戲體驗。各種痛苦又沒收穫,到底是在銃三小
七版大秘境繁榮,四天王有5個,坦克能百花齊放,就是對於普通玩家來說環境很友善
說真的以頂端玩家角度來說,8、9版大秘反而是簡單的,7版高層打不過的就真的打不過
那些數值設計很多都不合理。但也架不住7版大秘受歡迎,就因為大部分玩家都能爽玩
就算是頂端菁英,我鬼船開車4等1來鑰匙寶寶,一場10分鐘無壓力,三箱摸獎搞起
進場衝衝衝小怪+老一開英勇,出船艙衝甲板再A一波,玩起來真的就一個字 爽
反正我覺得暴雪是鬼迷心竅了,只想著如何拖玩家、騙KPI,所以人口流失才這麼嚴重
擺著傲慢的姿態做各種噁心人的改動,訪談永遠只說會說設計師感到滿意,嘔嘔嘔
我是真的希望它趕快倒一倒或是被隔壁棚海放,然後能回歸讓玩家玩得爽的初衷
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其實問題不光在於"難",而是難度曲線&回饋機制設計有問題
現狀是中層玩家沒有相應的回饋,高不成低不就,他看到的只剩屬於高層玩家的那些
於是就變成眼高手低、被菁英玩家各種秀優越,嘲諷你不如一刀999、掃蕩領大禮包等等
實例來說,相較7版,8、9版大秘個人認為最瞎的改動就是把暴君跟強悍換到2層
然後賽季辭綴放在10層,官方欽定你打不到10層就不配體驗賽季的主打內容
你新手、你菜,你甚至都不配參與核心玩法,我就沒見過誰家這樣積極勸退新手的
暴君/強悍放在2層,搞得難度梯度一點都不合理,結果打9層反而比10層難,WTF
然後小怪技能茫茫多,一個怪5個技能2種要斷1個要驅,不預習就等著被教訓
打個5人本都要聚精會神,稍有失誤就滅團、黑key,學習成本高到不行
反觀7版,艾薩拉螃蟹地精一大波,鬼船小怪帶著連BOSS,拉了就是一通AAAAA
那種單純的快樂,我現在回想起來都還有點小興奮
8、9版打個大秘痛苦一堆然後報酬呢? 現版本的獎勵真的是趨近於0,我連低保都懶得打
泰坦跟隨機橘這種東西見仁見智,提到這個又是吵個沒完,反正我個人喜歡,我就賭狗
至少從客觀角度,以LEG版本玩家人數跟預組活躍度來看,說它非常成功應該沒得反對
暴雪現在最大問題就是它一直要跟菁英玩家對著幹,好像這樣就能產生"電競"
不停的增加難度,不斷地設置障礙,結果搞半天MDI觀賞性還是爛如屎
反而是破壞了大部分普通玩家的遊戲體驗
不是說一定要多簡單無腦、一刀999才好,而是你要把難度曲線設計的合理
上限可以高啊,比如每賽季不只15層,往上全20、25、30限時都有成就
高手可以有酷炫屌霸狂的坐騎、外觀等等,讓精英玩家愛挑戰的自己去
但是你也要讓人口大眾的中層玩家有點目標、有東西玩啊
現在怪打人這麼痛,坦仇恨這麼低,除DHT以外玩其他坦都是自找不痛快
AOE上限我去你X的,搞得一切圍繞火法爆發做核心,其他隊友全當陪襯的打工小弟
學習成本高,導致預組找人彼此無法信任,容錯性又低只好挑最優解不然高機率黑+滅
於是職業歧視嚴重,非優勢職業你就沒遊戲體驗。各種痛苦又沒收穫,到底是在銃三小
七版大秘境繁榮,四天王有5個,坦克能百花齊放,就是對於普通玩家來說環境很友善
說真的以頂端玩家角度來說,8、9版大秘反而是簡單的,7版高層打不過的就真的打不過
那些數值設計很多都不合理。但也架不住7版大秘受歡迎,就因為大部分玩家都能爽玩
就算是頂端菁英,我鬼船開車4等1來鑰匙寶寶,一場10分鐘無壓力,三箱摸獎搞起
進場衝衝衝小怪+老一開英勇,出船艙衝甲板再A一波,玩起來真的就一個字 爽
反正我覺得暴雪是鬼迷心竅了,只想著如何拖玩家、騙KPI,所以人口流失才這麼嚴重
擺著傲慢的姿態做各種噁心人的改動,訪談永遠只說會說設計師感到滿意,嘔嘔嘔
我是真的希望它趕快倒一倒或是被隔壁棚海放,然後能回歸讓玩家玩得爽的初衷
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