機戰V首通心得 (負面) - Steam

By Gary
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除了GBA淺嚐以外算首次接觸機戰系列
實在很難想像是打磨快30年的系統...
做為策略遊戲性超差的,原價又高
而且不衝首發就是永遠閹割版
1月底特價買V,中間有點膩去玩別的
看到特價才想補完
本來想說打二輪先玩女角再打比較推薦的男角
結果玩不下二輪有點可惜
最想吐的就是戰鬥介面沒傷害預測== (明明命中迴避就可以算好給你看
這樣到底要怎麼規劃行動,連想省EN或彈數用弱攻擊都很難
武器攻擊力一點參考價值都沒,同樣2600打下去可能是100也可能5000
數值設計又蠻複雜的,自己算基本無理 要知道傷害就是先SL打一次
(有快速讀檔怎麼沒快速存檔,說實在也沒人這樣玩吧)
幾乎沒看過戰棋遊戲不給大概傷害的
預測數值沒考慮特殊技能、爆擊、浮動也能接受
二線機打小BOSS也戰戰兢兢,可能削血都辦不到免費幫加氣力再被反擊擊墜
索性二線機就不靠近了,每局SR幾乎都是趕回合,少數是擊墜會逃跑的BOSS
所以從頭到尾幾乎都是一樣的打法,一線機開加速衝等反擊後面跟大隊補尾刀
玩起來超無聊,一局又要打一個多小時
戰鬥動畫有奇怪的延遲托台錢按A也不能跳過
不開演出又很乾 連台詞也不會喊,然後X跳一段竟然連數字都不給你看
有些特殊台詞也藏在戰鬥動畫裡
想加難度我有限5改禁駕駛養成,勉強有點策略性可玩起來不是很愉快
沒傷害預測跟反擊機制很大限制了玩法
到38話地上線被打爆失敗,受不了解禁開始無雙
(這話難度高到很不合理,首輪無改無養全SR能過嗎?
其實我覺得後勤資源分配跟資源獲取也算策略的一部分
自我限制就沒法享受這塊...)
大和號跟天使龍又帥又強,但看久也是會膩
劇情融合方面沒接觸別的無從比較,整體還算順暢
這樣的遊戲性難怪且玩且珍惜
有人調侃是在給白包XD
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By Elvira
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By Ula
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原來還要精算 XD

By Linda
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By Skylar DavisLinda
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算一下而已。

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By Elma
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By Hamiltion
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還不如把SDGO還來

By Delia
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By Skylar DavisLinda
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By Oliver
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機戰會變成這樣了唄。萬代南夢宮,人家可是大型跨國多領
域集團公司呢

By Anthony
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難度高的機戰也只是挑個好地形打反擊

By Emily
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By Bennie
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By Eden
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機戰歷來就是小兵海,戰鬥又臭又長

By Olga
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遊戲

By Edith
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By Mason
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現在機站傷害已經不用到很精算根本隨便打

By Carol
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By Donna
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By Barb Cronin
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他雖然是浮動值又要算機率
但可是好好的把數值終傷算出來

By Connor
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By Kristin
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By Caitlin
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基本上不會差太多

By Jessica
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By Franklin
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如果不是 那你一發沒打死 你還有一堆隊友吧 也不用算什麼

By Hedy
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除非特殊狀況

By Andrew
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因為很少人會把機戰真的當策略遊戲

By Xanthe
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By Heather
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語音等等才是重點 是個粉絲向的遊戲

By William
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爬文很容易找到機戰的評價啊

By Joe
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同樣是戰棋遊戲,側重點也大相逕庭

By Annie
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By Ula
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有幾代也做得很微妙

By Candice
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By Wallis
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不但買遊戲,還會買一大堆機人模型跟玩具,這對有部分功
能是商品宣傳的機戰來說是很重要的,而這群大叔很難有時
間去跟你算格子打戰略性,降低難度開無雙是必要的選擇,
所以很多看來是缺點的地方,其實只是製作組根本沒打算把
重點放在那裏

By Skylar DavisLinda
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By Liam
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By Aaliyah
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可能還沒找到理想的遊戲

By Ophelia
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By Steve
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By Blanche
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能越簡單越好 讓越多人能玩才有機會回本 戰鬥且玩且珍惜

By Gary
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By Suhail Hany
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小兵海很還原,但你沒辦法跟動畫一樣無雙一次滅一群

By Vanessa
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https://i.imgur.com/PJVjFhI.jpg
算了打住吧,我不該回覆的,打擾了
這邊是機戰文又不是xcom文

By Blanche
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By Edwina
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理解遊戲屬性好嗎

By Jacob
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By Hedy
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By Joseph
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By Odelette
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可以準確的撿到個尾刀… 以戰棋來說是合理要求 但以機人
大戰來說有點不合理吧

By Brianna
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By Gary
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By Heather
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By Linda
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By Todd Johnson
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By Queena
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By Hedy
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By Sandy
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By Ethan
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By Bethany
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By Liam
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By Poppy
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By Emma
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By Oliver
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By Ursula
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By Kama
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By Blanche
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系列很早有設計快速讀取的快捷鍵 快速存檔也是O上O而已

By Gary
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By William
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By Elizabeth
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憾或是跟其他作品角色互動

By Edward Lewis
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知道結果了。我覺得你根本庸人自擾,當然預測傷害沒有不能
做,只是真的有跟沒有對機戰的核心樂趣來說,根本沒啥影響
,如果說聖火降魔錄那種,常常算到剩1~2滴血的,或許真的影
響體驗,但是機戰不是秒掉就是圍毆的基本流程,說真的還真
不需要精算太多,當然如果是要挑戰全程不改造之類,或許會
需要拿捏一下,但我覺得不會因為一個傷害預測就讓機戰變成
要每步照棋譜走的那種玩法

By Queena
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公式怎麼算出來的,除了一部分精算玩家或是要寫攻略的人來
說根本也不會在意,文玩家只在意要堆那個數值可以讓成長更
有效率,倍率更高,僅此而已

By Connor
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By Tracy
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之前買過機戰V,一開始看戰鬥動畫超熱血,但膩了以後

By Iris
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不上。

By Todd Johnson
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By Victoria
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By Lucy
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的X看完第一話的主角魔法機已經在考慮退款了...

By Ophelia
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By Genevieve
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By Elizabeth
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跳過,其他就別期待了,期待也沒用

By Zora
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By Hazel
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By Bennie
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演出戰鬥附帶XD

By Hedwig
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By Sierra Rose
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By Steve
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或是敵方回合不與我方戰鬥的狀況 我覺得這些就很夠
了吧

By Blanche
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By Rosalind
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By Kyle
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