本周將開放好友系統及交換系統拉 - PokemonGO
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看完 ign 訪談,完全不覺得會造成太大問題,。
不看訪談才會造成許多不對結論。
※ 引述《success0409 (貢糖新衣)》之銘言:
: 原文恕刪
: 我覺得交易系統開啟以後,
: 這個遊戲對於完全守規矩的玩家而言是真的死亡了
: (注意,以下非鼓勵作弊,只是看看這功能蠢到什麼程度)
: 1.主帳或小帳串起來等於背包容量數*帳號數
怎麼串?
最多是把主帳的次級怪洗到小帳上面,但是小帳的包包
就爆掉了不是嗎?
: 要耗星塵,呃……多帳玩家有在缺星塵的嗎?
: 甚至久久交換一次也不會有多大影響
: IV或CP的改變,依這間遊戲公司的腦子,會想到避免多帳而只會越換越低嗎?
隨機重置。
但重置範圍隨好友等級而減窄。
: (社群日之前,我就嗆聲如果恩社使遊戲沒當機,我發雞排,
: 因為太瞭解這間公司對於解決問題的能力了)
: 到時候說不定洗出IV100的各種神獸呢~
難度太高。每天只能交換一隻傳說級寶可夢。
三個月也不過洗一百次上下,搞不好一隻都洗不出來。
: 好,如果拿「IV越換越低」當處罰,單帳玩家之間純粹出借寶可夢開圖的機率也會降低
: 反正這部分不管哪種機制都一定出現相對應的問題
: 而且這樣根本變相取笑單帳玩家努力抓神獸、追色違
: 因為多帳只要其中一隻有特殊的寶可夢,等於所有的帳號都有了
: 於是再也不會聽到有多帳抱怨本帳或小帳有什麼圖沒開到
: 更呈現了「多帳合一」的境界(講到這裡很想罵國罵)
沒有這個機制,單帳玩家更難開到圖。現在只要去和朋友交流,
大家合力就可以開更多圖。
至於多帳的人確實開圖也變容易了。但也只限於開圖而已。
玩到後期的人多數會追求高 IV。
IV 重置會讓大幅限制高 IV 集中主帳的可能性。尤其傳說
寶可夢和色違只能一天一隻而已。
: 2.「朋友親密度」的設計更是真真正正的懲罰單帳玩家
錯了,是不交流的單帳玩家。
: 上面提到交換寶可夢要星塵,但是需要的數量「隨著親密度上升而成反比」
: 哇哩,單帳之間的親密度的程度是能高過時時刻刻貼在一起的多帳嗎
每天有交流一次(打道館,團戰...)就可以了,不用時時刻刻。
: 誰想跟單帳用近乎懲罰的高星塵交換寶可夢
: 就算是只有接受寶可夢方要付出星塵,
: 假如是想借別人的色違開圖,這個「真實世界」的親密度也不知道要高到多高了
就算時時刻刻,還是一天加一次好友度。
: 畢竟拿過來是我要給星塵,但歸還時,是「出借方」要付出
: 多少人是歐皇到可以「送」色違,尤其是色違神獸
: 這種交換系統一定會牽扯到真實世界的金錢交易,
這個有可能。
主要是出錢找人來幫忙開圖,或者付費加頂尖玩家好友。
: 說到這裡,更顯示遊戲公司的愚蠢和自尋死路
: 照這種交換方式,
: 以後幹嘛向遊戲公司買券拼命追神獸或稀有怪,網路上找一找就有
: 變相鼓勵不想出門的玩家窩在家裡上網「買怪」而非出門抓怪
買怪?
IV重置了誰要買?
最多是花錢開圖,但也要有一百萬 stardust 才能和新碰到的賣方
換到一隻新的。
: 背包容量這種原本幾乎是不得不花的錢,也不再是由遊戲公司賺取,
背包容量?這啥?
裝不下還是要買啊。
: 原因如第一部分所言
: 3.距離的限制
: 其中似乎看到兩個玩家其一目前所處距離越遠抓到的寶可夢,
: 用來交換糖果還可以加倍送
: 原本鼓勵「四海一家」的精神
: 在飛人橫行的現在會變成怎樣更不用說了
: 然後多帳和飛人是有在管「10公尺」的限制嗎?
: 更甚者,原本飛人的感情會更好,
: 群組內揪一揪,飛到同一個點培養「親密度」
你完全弄錯好友度升級的方式,不是飛到同一點一直待著。
: 多帳是合為一體,連揪都省了
: 這樣搞下來,
: 完全守規矩的玩家最好是有任何優勢啦
: 原本以為這個已經弊病叢生的遊戲
: 還可以靠各種社群日或特殊寶可夢勉力支撐個兩、三年
: 沒想到遊戲公司自己幫它提升了滅亡的進度,開發各種有利作弊和外掛的機制
: 一個遊戲最怕的未必是遊戲模式相同而變化不大
: 看看Candy crush,其實還在玩的人不少
: 真正降低公司營收的原因
: 往往是守規矩玩家玩得不如作弊者暢快,整個遊戲必須靠作弊才可「存活」
: N社不但沒阻止,還加劇該現象
: 恭喜
: --
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不看訪談才會造成許多不對結論。
※ 引述《success0409 (貢糖新衣)》之銘言:
: 原文恕刪
: 我覺得交易系統開啟以後,
: 這個遊戲對於完全守規矩的玩家而言是真的死亡了
: (注意,以下非鼓勵作弊,只是看看這功能蠢到什麼程度)
: 1.主帳或小帳串起來等於背包容量數*帳號數
怎麼串?
最多是把主帳的次級怪洗到小帳上面,但是小帳的包包
就爆掉了不是嗎?
: 要耗星塵,呃……多帳玩家有在缺星塵的嗎?
: 甚至久久交換一次也不會有多大影響
: IV或CP的改變,依這間遊戲公司的腦子,會想到避免多帳而只會越換越低嗎?
隨機重置。
但重置範圍隨好友等級而減窄。
: (社群日之前,我就嗆聲如果恩社使遊戲沒當機,我發雞排,
: 因為太瞭解這間公司對於解決問題的能力了)
: 到時候說不定洗出IV100的各種神獸呢~
難度太高。每天只能交換一隻傳說級寶可夢。
三個月也不過洗一百次上下,搞不好一隻都洗不出來。
: 好,如果拿「IV越換越低」當處罰,單帳玩家之間純粹出借寶可夢開圖的機率也會降低
: 反正這部分不管哪種機制都一定出現相對應的問題
: 而且這樣根本變相取笑單帳玩家努力抓神獸、追色違
: 因為多帳只要其中一隻有特殊的寶可夢,等於所有的帳號都有了
: 於是再也不會聽到有多帳抱怨本帳或小帳有什麼圖沒開到
: 更呈現了「多帳合一」的境界(講到這裡很想罵國罵)
沒有這個機制,單帳玩家更難開到圖。現在只要去和朋友交流,
大家合力就可以開更多圖。
至於多帳的人確實開圖也變容易了。但也只限於開圖而已。
玩到後期的人多數會追求高 IV。
IV 重置會讓大幅限制高 IV 集中主帳的可能性。尤其傳說
寶可夢和色違只能一天一隻而已。
: 2.「朋友親密度」的設計更是真真正正的懲罰單帳玩家
錯了,是不交流的單帳玩家。
: 上面提到交換寶可夢要星塵,但是需要的數量「隨著親密度上升而成反比」
: 哇哩,單帳之間的親密度的程度是能高過時時刻刻貼在一起的多帳嗎
每天有交流一次(打道館,團戰...)就可以了,不用時時刻刻。
: 誰想跟單帳用近乎懲罰的高星塵交換寶可夢
: 就算是只有接受寶可夢方要付出星塵,
: 假如是想借別人的色違開圖,這個「真實世界」的親密度也不知道要高到多高了
就算時時刻刻,還是一天加一次好友度。
: 畢竟拿過來是我要給星塵,但歸還時,是「出借方」要付出
: 多少人是歐皇到可以「送」色違,尤其是色違神獸
: 這種交換系統一定會牽扯到真實世界的金錢交易,
這個有可能。
主要是出錢找人來幫忙開圖,或者付費加頂尖玩家好友。
: 說到這裡,更顯示遊戲公司的愚蠢和自尋死路
: 照這種交換方式,
: 以後幹嘛向遊戲公司買券拼命追神獸或稀有怪,網路上找一找就有
: 變相鼓勵不想出門的玩家窩在家裡上網「買怪」而非出門抓怪
買怪?
IV重置了誰要買?
最多是花錢開圖,但也要有一百萬 stardust 才能和新碰到的賣方
換到一隻新的。
: 背包容量這種原本幾乎是不得不花的錢,也不再是由遊戲公司賺取,
背包容量?這啥?
裝不下還是要買啊。
: 原因如第一部分所言
: 3.距離的限制
: 其中似乎看到兩個玩家其一目前所處距離越遠抓到的寶可夢,
: 用來交換糖果還可以加倍送
: 原本鼓勵「四海一家」的精神
: 在飛人橫行的現在會變成怎樣更不用說了
: 然後多帳和飛人是有在管「10公尺」的限制嗎?
: 更甚者,原本飛人的感情會更好,
: 群組內揪一揪,飛到同一個點培養「親密度」
你完全弄錯好友度升級的方式,不是飛到同一點一直待著。
: 多帳是合為一體,連揪都省了
: 這樣搞下來,
: 完全守規矩的玩家最好是有任何優勢啦
: 原本以為這個已經弊病叢生的遊戲
: 還可以靠各種社群日或特殊寶可夢勉力支撐個兩、三年
: 沒想到遊戲公司自己幫它提升了滅亡的進度,開發各種有利作弊和外掛的機制
: 一個遊戲最怕的未必是遊戲模式相同而變化不大
: 看看Candy crush,其實還在玩的人不少
: 真正降低公司營收的原因
: 往往是守規矩玩家玩得不如作弊者暢快,整個遊戲必須靠作弊才可「存活」
: N社不但沒阻止,還加劇該現象
: 恭喜
: --
建議你開 IGN 文章,再來重新檢驗新的機制。
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