有人買過一萬顆魔法石嗎?? - 神魔之塔

By Heather
at 2014-03-16T23:42

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原文吃光

身為一個同行, 也是教數學的, 我真的要提醒您注意自己的這種行為.

很多版友也有提到您這樣獎勵的不妥, 以下的話會有點衝, 請見諒.

我本來是不想回的, 但洗個澡想一想發現不跟您好好地說一下是不行的!

200000元的虛擬寶物給學生的獎勵? 鼓勵不是這樣的鼓勵法好嗎!

1. 如果學生根本沒有這樣的本事, 或是到時候出故意超難根本不想發獎勵,

那就只是說大話, 學生連去努力的動力都沒有!

我MH今天出個進場5隻毒龍CD1的關卡跟您玩如何? 過了送10000顆魔法石喔!

2. 如果學生真的做到了, 您要發獎勵嗎?

今天倘若您是一介普通學校的年輕教師, 相信200000約是您四個月的薪水

用四個月的薪水做這種無謀的賭注,

這不就是平時教導學生不可以隨便下賭的最佳反例嗎? 以身作則去哪裡了?

就算您真的有這個財力, 那下次呢? 每次都要這樣玩嗎?

以後學生是不是沒有這種金錢的獎勵就不唸書了? 以後出社會怎麼辦!

所謂的獎勵是讓學生"只要比現在多努力一點"就可以獲得的報酬.

學生只要有成長, 就可以給予鼓勵, 但不是"根本做不到"的這種空泛的大話.

我現在任教的學校有許多低成就/學障生/實用技能班/學習意願差的孩子

對於不同程度的學生要有不同的獎勵方案, 之前我是這樣做:

成績好的學生: 有上台表現, 考試有進步.

成績差的學生: 有一點點進步, 上課乖乖的.

獎勵我通常是用飲料, 有玩神魔的學生就發7-11序號卡(頂多一張).

要鼓勵學生唸書, 簡簡單單的東西就夠了!

要活化教學, 下課可以教他們傷害計算公式或是疊珠表啊!

這樣我教了幾個學期學生也都好好的, 為啥一定要玩這麼大?

發獎勵重點是要看時機發, 要有驚喜感! 不能讓學生養成"我只要怎樣就可以得到什麼".

而且一開始獎勵不能開太大, 就跟送女朋友的第一個禮物不能太豪華一樣.

時間晚了, 不知道原PO能不能看到這篇文, 現在建議您:

明天立刻跟學生道歉, 收回送石這句話, 並且承認這是一個不妥的行為!

並且更改獎勵方式, 或是對收回承諾這件事做些小補償.

但是如果原PO執意要這麼做, 我也只能請您三思, 但請您讀完下面這一小段話.

師者, 傳道, 授業, 解惑也! 其中以"傳道"為首.

老師是學生的榜樣, 您現在教給學生的"做人處事道理"是什麼, 學生都會牢記在心.

草草

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All Comments

By Ina
at 2014-03-21T17:28

以為走到教師板

By Kyle
at 2014-03-25T23:49

塗

By Sandy
at 2014-03-28T21:46

推囧

By Caitlin
at 2014-03-31T00:34

真的有教師版欸(?

By Connor
at 2014-04-02T01:16

推

By Rosalind
at 2014-04-03T02:03

不覺得可以私信嗎？貼板說教好像有一點OVER

By Lily
at 2014-04-04T02:51

為人師表給推

By Barb Cronin
at 2014-04-07T17:15

推個

By David
at 2014-04-10T14:00

老師都說了就要做到今天要是改MH官方說要發獎勵卻說自己
唬人的不被神魔玩家罵死才奇怪

By Lauren
at 2014-04-14T20:00

推

By Brianna
at 2014-04-15T11:43

但是我想推

By Zora
at 2014-04-19T16:24

這裡也不是教師板寫這些有點怪怪的

By Suhail Hany
at 2014-04-20T12:17

同為數學老師推!!

By Queena
at 2014-04-21T04:51

推

By Suhail Hany
at 2014-04-21T08:47

推

By Eden
at 2014-04-23T23:59

站就信就好了吧

By Andy
at 2014-04-27T02:53

By Poppy
at 2014-04-29T12:24

五隻毒龍CD1.... 一百顆內應該可以過吧我玩

By Christine
at 2014-05-01T12:03

推老師

By Iris
at 2014-05-03T23:55

意圖良好~可是說真的與本版無關!!

By Yedda
at 2014-05-06T16:07

我想原PO本意也是好的~ 只是方式可能不盡完善

By Aaliyah
at 2014-05-09T21:11

可能只是想來說她是個優良老師吧要不要教你寄站內信?

By Kelly
at 2014-05-13T15:03

沒必要公開說教吧，令人反感.....站內信即可

By John
at 2014-05-15T22:37

推

By Isabella
at 2014-05-18T13:53

要是這樣貼板說教OVER的話請問正確的價值觀是要誰來說?

By Tom
at 2014-05-18T16:32

推

By Odelette
at 2014-05-20T21:45

我也是送學生7-11序號

By Quanna
at 2014-05-22T02:26

現在的老師跟醫生護士一樣，難考又辛苦

By Robert
at 2014-05-23T07:24

推原PO講了我想講的話嗯

By Edith
at 2014-05-26T04:34

沒什麼不妥吧各位可以趁機機會教育一下

By Vanessa
at 2014-05-27T13:28

這篇很OK　　　原原ＰＯ這樣真的不好

By Edwina
at 2014-05-29T17:07

XD有梗

By Steve
at 2014-06-01T11:02

推啦

By Thomas
at 2014-06-06T06:42

精闢入理。胃口被養大不好。

By Adele
at 2014-06-09T03:31

送個7-11序號順便給口香糖也不錯吧

By Robert
at 2014-06-10T19:51

這比一堆遊戲資訊來的有價值多了

By Candice
at 2014-06-11T18:04

說穿了這個版的使用年齡大多是學生不然是要版主自己來教嗎?

By Valerie
at 2014-06-15T06:29

幫補

By Kristin
at 2014-06-16T15:38

推

By Isla
at 2014-06-18T02:44

推!!
"送女朋友第一個禮物不能太豪華" XDDDDDDD

By Erin
at 2014-06-19T07:21

給同業、同性質工作者參考也很好現在太多小孩在神魔

By Jessica
at 2014-06-21T23:48

大推

By Suhail Hany
at 2014-06-24T09:37

你可以站內信

By Oliver
at 2014-06-26T18:17

推這篇

By Thomas
at 2014-06-30T23:53

我覺得不用看到有瑕疵的文就見獵心喜開槍
畢竟起頭也是因神魔這款遊戲而起不是單純只來po大道

By Belly
at 2014-07-04T02:18

推

By Olive
at 2014-07-08T03:56

這裡是一個需要教導正確價值觀的版嗎　╮(╯_╰)╭

By Agnes
at 2014-07-10T11:59

可以私信嗎？

By Andrew
at 2014-07-13T07:18

已經變成獵人版包羅萬象了是吧了解

By Hardy
at 2014-07-14T09:42

理

By Kumar
at 2014-07-16T15:08

推這篇，教育原po跟起閧的板眾很重要！

By Ula
at 2014-07-17T12:10

站內信就好啦，不過也好啦，不要讓鼓勵變調才是重點
。

By Faithe
at 2014-07-22T05:27

還是請你刪掉轉寄站內信

By Dora
at 2014-07-25T00:20

推

By Linda
at 2014-07-27T23:51

推

By Joe
at 2014-07-28T13:02

這裡不是教師板，你可以站內信就好

By Elma
at 2014-07-29T06:55

某樓意思是說只要開頭有神魔,什麼廢文都能發囉?

By Lauren
at 2014-08-02T13:22

那請問這文很廢嗎?

By Hedda
at 2014-08-03T21:44

怕被比較吧

By Hedda
at 2014-08-05T07:38

在教師版或許不廢但這裡是" T O S "版

By Rachel
at 2014-08-09T22:35

測試一下

By Joe
at 2014-08-12T14:12

專業!!

By Genevieve
at 2014-08-15T21:32

這篇很廢嗎我看是有人為噓而噓

By Tracy
at 2014-08-16T03:15

有什麼關係呢難得有這種認真文

By Joseph
at 2014-08-16T18:30

那原原PO也要刪文了阿

By Joe
at 2014-08-19T08:06

原po出於好意同樣是老師被你這樣公開說教請站內信

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2014-08-21T17:08

你覺得不妥我覺得ok 到底可不可以交由板主決定

By Freda
at 2014-08-24T20:20

有些人只會發超廢的閒聊文都不想說了

By Heather
at 2014-08-26T01:38

我走錯版了嗎

By Anthony
at 2014-08-27T14:47

版上突然出現了好多老師…

By Yuri
at 2014-08-28T23:38

老師又不是聖人= = 照coco你這樣說大家都不能罵總統了ㄏㄏ

By Heather
at 2014-08-31T14:41

真的要給現代小孩正確的金錢觀念

By Megan
at 2014-09-02T12:36

精闢又實在的回覆

By Ursula
at 2014-09-04T15:56

好啦給你推

By Susan
at 2014-09-09T05:15

推個

By Hedy
at 2014-09-09T15:33

無聊

By Margaret
at 2014-09-12T02:36

比一些意淫妹子的文章好多了

By Agnes
at 2014-09-14T18:54

中肯給推

By Bethany
at 2014-09-16T11:34

那一些人失蹤協尋也跟本版無關也要會刪掉嗎我也覺得OK

By Madame
at 2014-09-20T10:56

喜歡數學給推 ( ?

By Iris
at 2014-09-23T06:40

有講到魔法石阿一堆人在高潮XD

By Megan
at 2014-09-23T18:48

我想講的被你PO了上篇推文還有人在護航...

By Andrew
at 2014-09-26T04:57

這種文章不留，留各種OP心得文嗎？

By Mason
at 2014-09-30T23:21

推這篇教育是個很細膩的一不小心就會有壞示範

By Vanessa
at 2014-10-02T22:53

中肯給推

By Elma
at 2014-10-07T22:48

同意這比一些意淫妹子的文章好多了

By Carol
at 2014-10-12T20:34

看到署名以為是這兩天很紅的"茸茸"

By Ula
at 2014-10-14T12:53

樓下給分

By Selena
at 2014-10-16T07:38

0分

By Steve
at 2014-10-20T11:15

我覺得這篇文章可以點醒其他也有相同教育方式的老師
，亡羊補牢還不晚。

By Liam
at 2014-10-21T22:20

說得漂亮

By Isabella
at 2014-10-25T02:36

...................你是在認真什麼拉！

By Quintina
at 2014-10-27T09:09

By Elma
at 2014-10-28T09:03

推拉
老師好

By Frederic
at 2014-10-31T07:58

很棒~!

By Daph Bay
at 2014-11-04T21:53

就是老師才喜歡這樣說XD

By Genevieve
at 2014-11-05T21:39

無關版旨合不合理是另一回事

By Kelly
at 2014-11-09T14:51

講得太棒了國家就是需要更多像你這樣的老師

By Isla
at 2014-11-10T03:32

說的不錯

By Kelly
at 2014-11-12T11:28

重要的是對學生的價值觀的影響

By Freda
at 2014-11-16T08:51

說得很好一堆人見獵心喜呵呵

By Michael
at 2014-11-19T22:58

那怎不見噓的人噓第一篇? 兩種標準?

By Victoria
at 2014-11-20T23:55

噓無關板旨的是在跳針什麼鬼？　因為神魔產生的價值觀偏差
在神魔版回了有什麼無關

By Gary
at 2014-11-24T12:58

不符合板旨但是給推不行嗎? 你會去噓人家車禍協尋文章

By Damian
at 2014-11-29T10:56

push

By Kristin
at 2014-12-01T04:23

無關板..那唱3c的是不是要轉去音樂版? 又不是神魔ㄏㄏ

By Queena
at 2014-12-04T20:39

現在一堆學生完神魔，老師有玩學生也當然會問

By Tristan Cohan
at 2014-12-09T00:26

那麼如何在神魔與教學中取得平衡，我認為這篇文章很棒

By Jake
at 2014-12-12T11:08

噓無關版乾脆3c也噓算了

By Linda
at 2014-12-12T17:12

受教感謝！

By Caroline
at 2014-12-17T03:26

第一篇是問買石這篇是在怎樣能推不能噓喔

By Sarah
at 2014-12-19T17:43

置底3C怎沒看到酸酸，跳針喔

By Ophelia
at 2014-12-24T02:49

寫得好

By Bethany
at 2014-12-26T11:24

你可以站內信

By Faithe
at 2014-12-27T18:27

酸酸真多，ㄏㄏ

By Eartha
at 2014-12-30T11:54

而且很無聊，每位老師有他的教學方法，住海邊?

By Lily
at 2015-01-02T08:21

發在教師版元PO也不一定看的到，還是發在這裡好些!

By Elizabeth
at 2015-01-02T23:50

同為數學老師給推

By Brianna
at 2015-01-05T10:03

教學方法?講得好像可以是非不分

By Catherine
at 2015-01-09T17:14

錯得教學方法就該說講的老師想怎樣教都行體罰你要不要?
教育部住海邊嗎管這麼多幹嘛

By Kumar
at 2015-01-11T20:09

那來個你100我跳樓沒100你跳樓如何?

By Leila
at 2015-01-14T21:54

我覺得這篇不錯阿，原po是老師應該可以接納這些建議，
文中也有扯到神魔序號卡阿

By James
at 2015-01-15T16:28

比一些意淫妹子或啥炫耀文好多了

By Valerie
at 2015-01-16T08:22

推這篇!!

By Lauren
at 2015-01-19T02:25

教育原po跟起閧的板眾很重要+1

By Joseph
at 2015-01-21T06:44

推這篇～這才是正確的觀念

By Odelette
at 2015-01-22T16:11

我推不過要訓去外面訓話比較好

By Joseph
at 2015-01-23T10:40

小題大作可以睡了

By Zanna
at 2015-01-28T06:22

你如果是知名id 就不會被酸惹呵呵

By Ursula
at 2015-01-30T07:55

我也推

By Caroline
at 2015-01-31T21:52

意淫妹子的廢文都不會被噓中肯文被噓嗚呼哀哉

By Lydia
at 2015-02-02T14:25

對啊～有些人腦袋是不是有問題啊= =這種文才該推吧

By Caitlin
at 2015-02-04T17:04

↑此風...不可漲。peace

By Rebecca
at 2015-02-07T01:33

推觀念原來的文章推文超扯

By Anthony
at 2015-02-09T03:47

幫補血喔不知道在酸啥

By Odelette
at 2015-02-13T13:22

同為老師給推

By Brianna
at 2015-02-17T17:40

推說的真好!!

By Connor
at 2015-02-19T20:37

推!

By Yedda
at 2015-02-22T21:38

推你只是錯在ID

By Ethan
at 2015-02-27T05:08

不好意思一時激動了……我道歉，只是很生氣怎麼價值觀歪
成這樣，這裡怎麼了

By Kyle
at 2015-03-02T19:50

你是對的我看到這篇原PO也覺得很不妥

By Madame
at 2015-03-04T16:04

幫推

By Eden
at 2015-03-09T03:17

推

By Edward Lewis
at 2015-03-11T05:59

推你說的

By Kristin
at 2015-03-15T12:08

呵呵，噓的人可能覺得五科100很簡單，你擋個屁這樣

By Lucy
at 2015-03-17T17:54

推!

By Andrew
at 2015-03-18T00:21

推

By Damian
at 2015-03-20T18:58

幫補血歹年冬肖人多老師別太介意

By Connor
at 2015-03-24T09:05

你這篇完全說到我心坎誰說跟神魔無關？

By Callum
at 2015-03-25T07:18

講得很好...推一下

By Carol
at 2015-03-27T13:09

滿正面的思考，也有建議用神魔活化教學應有的方式與態度

By Edwina
at 2015-03-29T11:58

我寧願看到這種文章也不想看到意淫文意淫跟神魔有關就可

By Anonymous
at 2015-04-01T00:31

學校教學跟神魔有關就不可以鄉民神邏輯

By Hardy
at 2015-04-04T01:40

推這篇不只是老師其他可能有機會教育小孩的都該看看

By Dinah
at 2015-04-05T13:02

錯的獎勵機制會帶給小孩錯的價值觀

By James
at 2015-04-10T10:29

補血..

By Wallis
at 2015-04-15T08:40

孩子的教育不能等，老師更是如此

By Wallis
at 2015-04-16T05:46

再推每個老師都有自己的教學方式沒錯但要適當且適量

By Carol
at 2015-04-20T09:44

同是老師推一堆__在噓文

By Audriana
at 2015-04-24T04:35

推我覺得20萬真的太扯...

By Annie
at 2015-04-28T19:41

推這篇

By Selena
at 2015-04-29T20:13

正確價值觀啊，不懂為何噓…

By Emily
at 2015-05-02T19:49

By Aaliyah
at 2015-05-07T09:16

推

By Dinah
at 2015-05-09T13:25

害我跑出去看這是什麼板

By Freda
at 2015-05-13T21:48

這篇雖然跟遊戲無直接關係，可是就全文的論點是挺贊同的

By Robert
at 2015-05-17T23:38

況且原PO真的不值得把20W用在遊戲虛擬寶石上

By Candice
at 2015-05-22T09:42

這篇說得很好

By Xanthe
at 2015-05-26T18:59

老師很辛苦沒錯，可是投資成本也要有相對報酬，才有意義

By Damian
at 2015-05-26T23:04

不然只是造成反效果，相信學校主管得知也不允許這種事

By Sarah
at 2015-05-29T08:42

推，原文獎勵真的過了頭。

By Belly
at 2015-05-31T17:01

觀念比遊戲重要給推

By Harry
at 2015-06-03T14:24

沒推到補推XD 我也覺得要活化教學可以下課教攻略或計算

By Wallis
at 2015-06-05T19:08

或是疊珠表，而不是用過度誇張的獎勵

By Christine
at 2015-06-09T05:11

都一樣一張7-11序號卡跟一萬顆魔法石本質都一樣

By Dora
at 2015-06-10T14:12

推個，說的很好阿。

By Sierra Rose
at 2015-06-14T02:45

酸酸就是愛跟風啊為反而反蠻可憐的

By Sierra Rose
at 2015-06-14T13:03

不推過意不去

By Tom
at 2015-06-18T21:15

推這篇

By George
at 2015-06-19T06:55

臺灣教育就是失敗才會出一堆酸酸…頗呵

By Agatha
at 2015-06-19T21:56

推這篇

By Daniel
at 2015-06-22T02:41

錯在ID啊下面某知名ID開炮後酸民就進攻為TOS板默哀

By Jack
at 2015-06-24T06:15

說的很好阿~噓什麼?

By Jake
at 2015-06-27T22:14

給推

By Gilbert
at 2015-07-02T16:48

送女朋友的第一個禮物真的不能太貴...

By Kumar
at 2015-07-05T14:12

好文給推

By Ula
at 2015-07-07T19:26

幫推

By Regina
at 2015-07-12T10:41

人家想送帝寶關你教育理念什麼事情每個老師作法不同

By Ula
at 2015-07-16T10:38

推中肯，不懂噓啥

By Kelly
at 2015-07-21T09:23

推

By Anonymous
at 2015-07-22T22:40

推

By Donna
at 2015-07-24T09:42

站內信

By Adele
at 2015-07-28T05:28

你的薪水跟我的不一樣嗎?為什麼四個月有200k?我要五個月

By Robert
at 2015-07-28T08:30

樓上的薪水5個月200k 原po 4個月200k 我想滿明顯不一樣的

By Ida
at 2015-07-31T04:22

推

By Kyle
at 2015-08-04T03:45

推

By Hedda
at 2015-08-07T06:40

第一個問題就會有人怒開門賺魔法石了耶

By Megan
at 2015-08-09T20:07

你可以站內信

By Iris
at 2015-08-09T22:29

因為神魔而學生不認真上來討論也要被噓？頗ㄏ

By Iris
at 2015-08-10T18:53

至少中間有提到神魔阿，又不是完全無關

By Jacob
at 2015-08-13T08:55

教育理念推不懂為什麼噓

By Elizabeth
at 2015-08-14T22:57

這篇觀念很不錯哩~ 總比板上都只有那幾類看到膩的文好~ XD

By David
at 2015-08-18T00:54

清流給推，很明顯認為站內信就好以及本文不妥的是少數囉
~

By Mary
at 2015-08-21T15:04

推一個，有些人可能只喜歡無聊的自high梗跟意淫文吧

By Poppy
at 2015-08-21T16:05

By Charlotte
at 2015-08-22T05:53

推

By Jacky
at 2015-08-24T15:13

推

By Tristan Cohan
at 2015-08-27T14:42

站在老師的立場的確是這樣，總比拼經濟好

By Ivy
at 2015-08-31T07:56

中肯推

By Elizabeth
at 2015-09-02T02:04

大推啊！看了某些留言就知道教育失敗了啊…

By Brianna
at 2015-09-03T15:22

這比抽卡文有意義多了

By Frederica
at 2015-09-08T11:17

推比那些不斷意淫自嗨曬牌的不知所云文還要有意義多了

By Una
at 2015-09-09T09:52

跟本板沒關係不過還是給推，很多老師自己個性跟小孩沒兩樣

By Eartha
at 2015-09-13T15:31

觀念修正是好事給推

By Agatha
at 2015-09-14T10:07

如果看到有明顯偏差行為還不講出來只會有更多的人群起效
之

By Hedwig
at 2015-09-17T06:04

推

By Mason
at 2015-09-20T00:36

不知道是在噓幾點的~"~ 回應別人的文章常常就不會跟
神魔有太大關係
況且原文說送魔法石這位老師也有送7-11神魔滿額卡阿

By Candice
at 2015-09-20T08:32

的確... 送那麼多給學生是要拼經濟膩

By Edwina
at 2015-09-23T10:32

推認真

By Audriana
at 2015-09-27T05:40

1真的是錯在Id 有名Id不管多廢都會被推

By Kelly
at 2015-10-01T21:02

推一個比一堆沒意義推文或文章的有價值多了

By Tom
at 2015-10-03T16:15

來朝聖說得很好啊原原po那位老師做法實在不妥當

有人買過一萬顆魔法石嗎?? - 神魔之塔

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