新手問題 為什麼大家都愛僵屍 - 爐石戰記

By Olivia
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at 2015-12-15T23:58
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※ 引述《by0413 (誤會一場...)》之銘言:
自從台大開放式課程傅浩政的邏輯課之後,就變成了鍵盤邏輯學家了。
如同連勝文上了八堂財經課之後變成財經專家了。不要說我邏輯不好喔!
: ※ 引述《ss8901233 (不聽不聽你別說)》之銘言:
: : 看很多牌組都會放肉身僵屍
: : 新手請問大家 為什麼大家都那麼喜歡這張牌
: : 加對方5血感覺很傷阿
: : 可是大家都愛呢
: : 另外 當初發布這張卡
: : 大家就覺得這張評價不錯嗎
: 我覺得現在都是各種馬後炮和印象派了
(?)
: 殭屍明明就冷門超久的
(?)
: 就拿板上查得到的文章 Tempo Storm Meta Snapshot來參考
我也看了
: 過去的牌組大多都不需要殭屍
中速聖 https://goo.gl/FghNm8
里諾術 https://goo.gl/3ML9SQ
藍龍術 https://goo.gl/cZpWtk
龍牧 https://goo.gl/18VeiC
魚人聖 https://goo.gl/ooTYBo
更不用說還有咆嘯德會放、各種控制會放、中速偶爾會放。
這些都會放。對了,牧師只要玩控制或死聲必放殭屍,奧奇奈配殭屍、治癒之環超強。
: 中速獵.臉獵 奴隸戰控制戰.刀油賊.各類法師.德都不用
你活在平行世界?德超怕快攻的會不用?基本上咆嘯德組不全的話就可以放。
快攻猖獗,肚肚擋得了?我玩咆嘯德那麼多場都知道任何中速控制都不怕,就怕快攻。
: 大概就中速新兵聖.藍龍術.牧師會放到殭屍而已
喔...
: 加上有一段時間是奴隸稱霸.中速獵又強的時候
: 殭屍對上這兩個常見的根本就是垃圾
: 在來回到當初NAXX剛出的時候
: NAXX時期殯葬就是猛
: 大家都在打死聲系列的牌組
: 有會長大的殯葬還怕殭屍嗎
唬爛,以前的死聲牧超夯殭屍的。
由推文可以知道:
→ by0413 : 你一開始就講錯了 你說殭屍沒冷門過就錯了
→ by0413 : 殭屍交換能力強 但是多數牌組都不會為了抗快放他(?)
→ by0413 : 我自己對冷門的定義是 多數熱門牌組都不會放的牌
→ by0413 : 殭屍這張牌 如果看TS排的 可能前10組才1組放殭屍
依照你的邏輯,我覺得連爆爆也超冷門的,因為多數的排組也都不會放他。
像是快攻薩、刀油賊、藍龍術、控制牧、冰法、節奏法、快攻德、洪水Zoo
漁人聖、奇蹟賊、臉獵、快攻法、快攻聖、混和獵都不放爆爆博士。
要是10個有9個快攻,我要找10組才1組放爆爆博士也很容易啊!
→ by0413 : 真的邏輯差到 沒有辦法溝通 思考太特別了
那到底是誰的邏輯有障礙?邏輯是講究命題與論證。
並以形式化去表達出來。簡單來說我可以用你的命題去套用任何可能,
並且推論出爆爆博士也是冷門卡,這樣的討論還有何意義?
因為根本就表達出來根本就含混(vagueness),你表達完之後沒有明確的數據點出,
多少副牌組的使用率,用使用率去定義何謂冷門,何謂熱門,換句話說,
100副比賽專用套牌一定要100副牌都要涵蓋,否則算冷門套排,
那爆爆博士不就冷門套排?
結論真的是邏輯有問題:論證不足、命題又偏頗,探討時又有很多歧異讓人誤解,
然而自己邏輯有障礙反先嗆人邏輯有障礙,真是奇葩。
--
我的網誌:http://chinagogoya.blogspot.tw/
優秀文章備份區:https://disp.cc/b/chinagogoya
--
自從台大開放式課程傅浩政的邏輯課之後,就變成了鍵盤邏輯學家了。
如同連勝文上了八堂財經課之後變成財經專家了。不要說我邏輯不好喔!
: ※ 引述《ss8901233 (不聽不聽你別說)》之銘言:
: : 看很多牌組都會放肉身僵屍
: : 新手請問大家 為什麼大家都那麼喜歡這張牌
: : 加對方5血感覺很傷阿
: : 可是大家都愛呢
: : 另外 當初發布這張卡
: : 大家就覺得這張評價不錯嗎
: 我覺得現在都是各種馬後炮和印象派了
(?)
: 殭屍明明就冷門超久的
(?)
: 就拿板上查得到的文章 Tempo Storm Meta Snapshot來參考
我也看了
: 過去的牌組大多都不需要殭屍
中速聖 https://goo.gl/FghNm8
里諾術 https://goo.gl/3ML9SQ
藍龍術 https://goo.gl/cZpWtk
龍牧 https://goo.gl/18VeiC
魚人聖 https://goo.gl/ooTYBo
更不用說還有咆嘯德會放、各種控制會放、中速偶爾會放。
這些都會放。對了,牧師只要玩控制或死聲必放殭屍,奧奇奈配殭屍、治癒之環超強。
: 中速獵.臉獵 奴隸戰控制戰.刀油賊.各類法師.德都不用
你活在平行世界?德超怕快攻的會不用?基本上咆嘯德組不全的話就可以放。
快攻猖獗,肚肚擋得了?我玩咆嘯德那麼多場都知道任何中速控制都不怕,就怕快攻。
: 大概就中速新兵聖.藍龍術.牧師會放到殭屍而已
喔...
: 加上有一段時間是奴隸稱霸.中速獵又強的時候
: 殭屍對上這兩個常見的根本就是垃圾
: 在來回到當初NAXX剛出的時候
: NAXX時期殯葬就是猛
: 大家都在打死聲系列的牌組
: 有會長大的殯葬還怕殭屍嗎
唬爛,以前的死聲牧超夯殭屍的。
由推文可以知道:
→ by0413 : 你一開始就講錯了 你說殭屍沒冷門過就錯了
→ by0413 : 殭屍交換能力強 但是多數牌組都不會為了抗快放他(?)
→ by0413 : 我自己對冷門的定義是 多數熱門牌組都不會放的牌
→ by0413 : 殭屍這張牌 如果看TS排的 可能前10組才1組放殭屍
依照你的邏輯,我覺得連爆爆也超冷門的,因為多數的排組也都不會放他。
像是快攻薩、刀油賊、藍龍術、控制牧、冰法、節奏法、快攻德、洪水Zoo
漁人聖、奇蹟賊、臉獵、快攻法、快攻聖、混和獵都不放爆爆博士。
要是10個有9個快攻,我要找10組才1組放爆爆博士也很容易啊!
→ by0413 : 真的邏輯差到 沒有辦法溝通 思考太特別了
那到底是誰的邏輯有障礙?邏輯是講究命題與論證。
並以形式化去表達出來。簡單來說我可以用你的命題去套用任何可能,
並且推論出爆爆博士也是冷門卡,這樣的討論還有何意義?
因為根本就表達出來根本就含混(vagueness),你表達完之後沒有明確的數據點出,
多少副牌組的使用率,用使用率去定義何謂冷門,何謂熱門,換句話說,
100副比賽專用套牌一定要100副牌都要涵蓋,否則算冷門套排,
那爆爆博士不就冷門套排?
結論真的是邏輯有問題:論證不足、命題又偏頗,探討時又有很多歧異讓人誤解,
然而自己邏輯有障礙反先嗆人邏輯有障礙,真是奇葩。
--
我的網誌:http://chinagogoya.blogspot.tw/
優秀文章備份區:https://disp.cc/b/chinagogoya
--
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