改版新消息 - 爐石戰記

By Cara
at 2016-02-19T00:53
at 2016-02-19T00:53
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既然都知道設計團隊本來就是重度MTG玩家,那就來看看台灣的MTG大手的想法~
FB連結(文章來源):https://goo.gl/q3410M
作者發過的文章+簡介:
一個說的比打的好的男人,興趣是動嘴與動筆(還有在文章內放養眼圖);曾在國冠賽與大
獎賽奪得八強,也曾進入專業賽的獎金圈內。 http://goo.gl/12VB1F
身為一個前魔法風雲會玩家比單純的爐石玩家更能接受這項變動,畢竟,任何卡片遊戲都
會走到一步,讓遊戲膨脹到爆炸,或者是動刀作點改變,這是必然的一步,魔法風雲會走
過,遊戲王走過,爐石戰記也不能不例外,沒錯,爐石並不是免費電子遊戲,不折不扣就
是卡牌遊戲。
在批踢踢、巴哈與網路上,看了很多玩家的感想,讓我興起動筆成文的衝動,因為太多玩
家搞不清楚重點。暴雪想要給玩家什麼,想塑造什麼樣的遊戲世界,才是重點!
如果玩家總是懷抱著現有的基準去斤斤計較,不看未來,不去從遊戲的本質去思考,當然
只會看到衝突,只有抱怨與失望。
在我看來,暴雪要的很簡單,也是所有卡牌遊戲想要的,兩個目的而已。
首先,降低遊戲門檻。
爐石到今為止,新玩家需要達到怎樣的門檻呢,三個副本與兩個卡包系列,嗯,不太輕鬆
。試想,如果爐石再走了兩年,新手們將面臨怎樣的挑戰,五至六個副本與五個以上的卡
包系列,他們的對手們擁有恐怖深邃的牌池,新手需要多少時間與金錢才能勉強跟上?
而且隨著爐石越久,情況將會日益嚴苛,新手勢必難以跨越極高的門檻,新入坑的養分變
少,整個遊戲沒有新血就是等著滅亡,很多玩家並未考慮這一點,因為他們早已在坑中,
何必考慮?
標準賽制的劃分,代表一個新玩家只要考慮兩個副本,三到四個卡包延伸環境,最多這樣
了,任何時刻加入的玩家,無論是現在或是未來十年後都一樣,爐石的門檻就這樣高而已
,新玩家可以適切地加入爐石,體驗遊戲的樂趣。
這就是暴雪第一個想達到的目的。
其次,保護遊戲性。
卡牌遊戲的樂趣就在於卡牌的搭配,需要的是卡牌的累積,越多選擇帶來越多樂趣,但是
,隨著越來越多卡牌的累積,也會出現副作用。
足以致命的副作用。
簡單來說,一張好牌豎立了一個門檻,新牌只有兩條路,比較強大或比較弱小。弱小的牌
只會淪落給眾人唾棄,根本沒人使用,毫無影響力,於是新牌只好適度的更強大,才能滿
足玩家的需求,也才能帶來變化,然而更強大的牌將豎立更高的門檻,這種情況會一直惡
化下去,直到秩序崩壞為止。
一張牌只是例子,代換成一副套牌也是相同道理。
臉薩必須比之前臉獵更快,否則沒人玩,接下來的快攻一定要比臉薩還快,不然也是沒有
意義,這樣惡性循環快的下去,並不會帶來更多樂趣。另外,更恐怖的是牌與牌的組合,
例如,機械與龍的種族將隨著未來一張又一張的新機械、新龍而達到比鋼彈、哥吉拉還恐
怖的程度,豎立另一道高牆。
一段時間之後,對局會從城牆到城牆,擴張到星球對星球等級,遊戲內容會逐漸僵化,新
牌也越來越難設計,玩家們都在飛機大戰,難道出張十字弓嗎,假設出個鈾元素,馬上跑
出一顆原子彈,距離世界毀滅大概也差不遠矣。
卡牌遊戲最想要營造的,不是強度,而是變化。
隨著新牌的累加,玩家可能設計出一副可以三水晶打三十點的套牌,這當然有夠屌,但是
,相對來說遊戲就會變的無趣,因為套牌只能在三水晶的門檻之內打轉,否則就要被對手
瞬殺了,其他套牌的可能性相對被抹殺掉了。
暴雪想營造的是每張牌都能發揮功能,隔段時間都有新套牌誕生,就算這些牌、這些套牌
不是所謂最強大的,那又何妨。卡牌遊戲就是站在相同的基準點競賽,每個玩家都使用相
同的牌池,只求變化與平衡,強弱並不是重點,所有人處於石器時代用斧頭捶子搏殺,或
者所有玩家開著坦克飛機互鬥,基本上勝負的意義都是一樣的,只要強度能夠被控制,不
要惡性循環就好了。
強迫大家使用新的牌組新套牌,隨著舊牌的移除,根除了牌相互間造成的過高門檻,即是
標準賽制的目的。
降低門檻與保護遊戲性就是標準賽制想要達到的,當然,有利必有弊,標準賽制勢必也造
成一些問題,讓我們來看看玩家多半的抱怨的點。
一,我手上的牌會損失,我的哥弟牌跟納克薩瑪斯牌都會不能在標準模式使用,標準賽制
是一個騙錢的騙局。
這個問題只存在這一個時間點,就是現在。
未來任何玩家在運用金幣拆包開副本、用塵合成與現金購買任何產品,勢必都要考慮到標
準模式的影響,都是合理判斷下的結果。
所以這個問題只要閉著眼睛撐過去就好,當然,個人更推一些對於哥弟牌與納克薩瑪斯的
補償措施,畢竟,一些新入坑的玩家可能才使用了幾週,就要面臨退標準,他們確實被騙
了。
二、我沒有辦法只拿一副套牌打一輩子了,我被迫要去用新卡組新套牌,標準賽制是一個
騙錢的騙局。
很遺憾的,就是這樣,這是無可避免的,但是請瞭解,暴雪不會為了讓玩家買新牌賺錢而
營造標準,為的是之前長篇大論的兩個理由。絕大部分的玩家都會樂於體驗新牌,畢竟那
是樂趣所在,會移轉的標準賽制代表玩家們必須去弄新牌來組套牌,這是無法避免的。
三、暴雪不想改動牌,例如爆爆博士或神秘挑戰者,搞個標準來自然淘汰,標準賽制是一
個騙錢的騙局。
我們必須開宗明義瞭解,牌的平衡與標準是毫無關連的兩回事,照理來說,任何一張牌都
能存在標準最多兩年,如果任何一張的強度過高,是不平衡的設計,一定要快速地更動,
是絕對不能允許破壞標準平衡存兩年之久的。
個人當然不懂暴雪平衡牌的標準,我只知道,標準賽制能避免讓一張過於強大的持續發生
不良影響力,甚至延伸出更強大的影響力。
四、走了一些核心的牌,將來一定會再出類似的功能,例如古董機械人,換湯不換藥,還
要再收一次錢,標準賽制是一個騙錢的騙局。
這是所有卡片遊戲的常態,類似功能的牌,魔法風雲會甚至有沒有改名就直接在新卡包重
出的牌,或者是功能完全一樣只改名的新牌,這是標準系列不可避免之惡,請大家瞭解,
這雖然是騙錢的行為,但是出發點不是為了騙錢,是為了營造更好的遊戲體驗。
打了哪麼多字也有點累了,本文雖然很像是官方的澄清文,但是我必須澄清,跟爐石戰記
官方一點關係都沒有,純粹是個人的意見分享。
最後,希望大家都能手牽手開心打爐石,包包開到傳說金卡。
以上。
黃其中
HCC#3606
===============================================================================
其實真的沒必要這麼恐慌,MTG的大環境賽制(modern)也是在近三年內才因為死忠玩家的狂
熱而興起,如果到時候標準真的沒人打沒人看,就算官方硬要強推,最後風向還是會因為
玩家喜愛成度改變,就像MTG,當有人開始覺得標準輪替太快太花錢,自然會跑去打永恆賽
制,最後官方也不得不加開標準外的獎金賽來吸收人口。
另外,其實MTG在實施標準賽的時候,牌池不含重印也沒有超過1000張(第一版~墮落王朝)
依照官方說法,下一個改版有機會增加超過100張牌?這樣看起來,牌池過小並不是問題。
詳細介紹請見:http://goo.gl/qkQAin 魔法風雲會編年史-2
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FB連結(文章來源):https://goo.gl/q3410M
作者發過的文章+簡介:
一個說的比打的好的男人,興趣是動嘴與動筆(還有在文章內放養眼圖);曾在國冠賽與大
獎賽奪得八強,也曾進入專業賽的獎金圈內。 http://goo.gl/12VB1F
身為一個前魔法風雲會玩家比單純的爐石玩家更能接受這項變動,畢竟,任何卡片遊戲都
會走到一步,讓遊戲膨脹到爆炸,或者是動刀作點改變,這是必然的一步,魔法風雲會走
過,遊戲王走過,爐石戰記也不能不例外,沒錯,爐石並不是免費電子遊戲,不折不扣就
是卡牌遊戲。
在批踢踢、巴哈與網路上,看了很多玩家的感想,讓我興起動筆成文的衝動,因為太多玩
家搞不清楚重點。暴雪想要給玩家什麼,想塑造什麼樣的遊戲世界,才是重點!
如果玩家總是懷抱著現有的基準去斤斤計較,不看未來,不去從遊戲的本質去思考,當然
只會看到衝突,只有抱怨與失望。
在我看來,暴雪要的很簡單,也是所有卡牌遊戲想要的,兩個目的而已。
首先,降低遊戲門檻。
爐石到今為止,新玩家需要達到怎樣的門檻呢,三個副本與兩個卡包系列,嗯,不太輕鬆
。試想,如果爐石再走了兩年,新手們將面臨怎樣的挑戰,五至六個副本與五個以上的卡
包系列,他們的對手們擁有恐怖深邃的牌池,新手需要多少時間與金錢才能勉強跟上?
而且隨著爐石越久,情況將會日益嚴苛,新手勢必難以跨越極高的門檻,新入坑的養分變
少,整個遊戲沒有新血就是等著滅亡,很多玩家並未考慮這一點,因為他們早已在坑中,
何必考慮?
標準賽制的劃分,代表一個新玩家只要考慮兩個副本,三到四個卡包延伸環境,最多這樣
了,任何時刻加入的玩家,無論是現在或是未來十年後都一樣,爐石的門檻就這樣高而已
,新玩家可以適切地加入爐石,體驗遊戲的樂趣。
這就是暴雪第一個想達到的目的。
其次,保護遊戲性。
卡牌遊戲的樂趣就在於卡牌的搭配,需要的是卡牌的累積,越多選擇帶來越多樂趣,但是
,隨著越來越多卡牌的累積,也會出現副作用。
足以致命的副作用。
簡單來說,一張好牌豎立了一個門檻,新牌只有兩條路,比較強大或比較弱小。弱小的牌
只會淪落給眾人唾棄,根本沒人使用,毫無影響力,於是新牌只好適度的更強大,才能滿
足玩家的需求,也才能帶來變化,然而更強大的牌將豎立更高的門檻,這種情況會一直惡
化下去,直到秩序崩壞為止。
一張牌只是例子,代換成一副套牌也是相同道理。
臉薩必須比之前臉獵更快,否則沒人玩,接下來的快攻一定要比臉薩還快,不然也是沒有
意義,這樣惡性循環快的下去,並不會帶來更多樂趣。另外,更恐怖的是牌與牌的組合,
例如,機械與龍的種族將隨著未來一張又一張的新機械、新龍而達到比鋼彈、哥吉拉還恐
怖的程度,豎立另一道高牆。
一段時間之後,對局會從城牆到城牆,擴張到星球對星球等級,遊戲內容會逐漸僵化,新
牌也越來越難設計,玩家們都在飛機大戰,難道出張十字弓嗎,假設出個鈾元素,馬上跑
出一顆原子彈,距離世界毀滅大概也差不遠矣。
卡牌遊戲最想要營造的,不是強度,而是變化。
隨著新牌的累加,玩家可能設計出一副可以三水晶打三十點的套牌,這當然有夠屌,但是
,相對來說遊戲就會變的無趣,因為套牌只能在三水晶的門檻之內打轉,否則就要被對手
瞬殺了,其他套牌的可能性相對被抹殺掉了。
暴雪想營造的是每張牌都能發揮功能,隔段時間都有新套牌誕生,就算這些牌、這些套牌
不是所謂最強大的,那又何妨。卡牌遊戲就是站在相同的基準點競賽,每個玩家都使用相
同的牌池,只求變化與平衡,強弱並不是重點,所有人處於石器時代用斧頭捶子搏殺,或
者所有玩家開著坦克飛機互鬥,基本上勝負的意義都是一樣的,只要強度能夠被控制,不
要惡性循環就好了。
強迫大家使用新的牌組新套牌,隨著舊牌的移除,根除了牌相互間造成的過高門檻,即是
標準賽制的目的。
降低門檻與保護遊戲性就是標準賽制想要達到的,當然,有利必有弊,標準賽制勢必也造
成一些問題,讓我們來看看玩家多半的抱怨的點。
一,我手上的牌會損失,我的哥弟牌跟納克薩瑪斯牌都會不能在標準模式使用,標準賽制
是一個騙錢的騙局。
這個問題只存在這一個時間點,就是現在。
未來任何玩家在運用金幣拆包開副本、用塵合成與現金購買任何產品,勢必都要考慮到標
準模式的影響,都是合理判斷下的結果。
所以這個問題只要閉著眼睛撐過去就好,當然,個人更推一些對於哥弟牌與納克薩瑪斯的
補償措施,畢竟,一些新入坑的玩家可能才使用了幾週,就要面臨退標準,他們確實被騙
了。
二、我沒有辦法只拿一副套牌打一輩子了,我被迫要去用新卡組新套牌,標準賽制是一個
騙錢的騙局。
很遺憾的,就是這樣,這是無可避免的,但是請瞭解,暴雪不會為了讓玩家買新牌賺錢而
營造標準,為的是之前長篇大論的兩個理由。絕大部分的玩家都會樂於體驗新牌,畢竟那
是樂趣所在,會移轉的標準賽制代表玩家們必須去弄新牌來組套牌,這是無法避免的。
三、暴雪不想改動牌,例如爆爆博士或神秘挑戰者,搞個標準來自然淘汰,標準賽制是一
個騙錢的騙局。
我們必須開宗明義瞭解,牌的平衡與標準是毫無關連的兩回事,照理來說,任何一張牌都
能存在標準最多兩年,如果任何一張的強度過高,是不平衡的設計,一定要快速地更動,
是絕對不能允許破壞標準平衡存兩年之久的。
個人當然不懂暴雪平衡牌的標準,我只知道,標準賽制能避免讓一張過於強大的持續發生
不良影響力,甚至延伸出更強大的影響力。
四、走了一些核心的牌,將來一定會再出類似的功能,例如古董機械人,換湯不換藥,還
要再收一次錢,標準賽制是一個騙錢的騙局。
這是所有卡片遊戲的常態,類似功能的牌,魔法風雲會甚至有沒有改名就直接在新卡包重
出的牌,或者是功能完全一樣只改名的新牌,這是標準系列不可避免之惡,請大家瞭解,
這雖然是騙錢的行為,但是出發點不是為了騙錢,是為了營造更好的遊戲體驗。
打了哪麼多字也有點累了,本文雖然很像是官方的澄清文,但是我必須澄清,跟爐石戰記
官方一點關係都沒有,純粹是個人的意見分享。
最後,希望大家都能手牽手開心打爐石,包包開到傳說金卡。
以上。
黃其中
HCC#3606
===============================================================================
其實真的沒必要這麼恐慌,MTG的大環境賽制(modern)也是在近三年內才因為死忠玩家的狂
熱而興起,如果到時候標準真的沒人打沒人看,就算官方硬要強推,最後風向還是會因為
玩家喜愛成度改變,就像MTG,當有人開始覺得標準輪替太快太花錢,自然會跑去打永恆賽
制,最後官方也不得不加開標準外的獎金賽來吸收人口。
另外,其實MTG在實施標準賽的時候,牌池不含重印也沒有超過1000張(第一版~墮落王朝)
依照官方說法,下一個改版有機會增加超過100張牌?這樣看起來,牌池過小並不是問題。
詳細介紹請見:http://goo.gl/qkQAin 魔法風雲會編年史-2
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