我竟然會敗在仁王! - PS
By Candice
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※ 引述《septemocean (我在塔裡‧舔著傷)》之銘言:
: 先說
: 以下不是針對原po
: 而且帶有些情緒性用語
: 不過真的是仁王發售到現在 看了很多
: 真的不吐不快
: 不喜歡的請忽略
: 哈囉?
: 還記不記得那個怪追到天涯海角的阿法測試?
: 當初的仁王原本就是打算作成超級硬派
: 是經過了三次測試彙整玩家意見才調整成現在這樣
: 在我看來正式版的裝備強化系統跟陰陽術都是為了兼容ㄧ些動作苦手的輕玩家所作的配套
: 措施
: 結果現在被ㄧ堆人訕笑說好簡單
: 別忘了人家本來是有打算作成死到你笑
: 都笑不出來的難度
: 我是不知道ㄧ邊說仁王簡單ㄧ邊+10神兵遲緩符用爽爽的人多不多啦
: 我也不能理解為什麼不能說嫌太簡單就去壓裝壓等打強者
: 說真的啦 每種武器 每種武技 光動作的變化性就作得很細膩
: 更不用說加上上中下段跟紫電 這樣延伸出來的連段變化性有多大
: 這原本就是Team Ninja的強項 人家也端出來了 結果呢?
: 這樣的亮點完全被埋沒
: 有沒有人討論怎麼連招打得漂亮有觀賞性?
: 沒有
: 各討論區的攻略不是oo無腦打法就是xx速刷密技
: 你如果說是配裝心得也就算了
: 畢竟我自已雖然常壓裝在練技巧
: 但也還是會弄神裝來滿足自己虛榮心
: 但我從來不會因為裝備上來了而誤以為自己技術變好了而去笑說仁王很簡單
: 那些說仁王簡單的
: 請問你打怪打王已經可以流暢切換上中下段跟各式武器武技還有活用殘心流轉了嗎?
: 還是永遠只會ㄧ招半式打天下
: 有的話麻煩貼個影片大家開開眼界
: 如果說裝備強化系統跟陰陽術是遊戲既有設定 為什麼不能在使用它的基礎上去笑仁王簡
: 單
: 那流轉殘心武技那些也是啊 怎麼不見你用得很溜 打得行雲流水 怪不沾身
: 分享幾段我個人認為稱得上技術的影片
: 至少我自已是以這樣的目標在練習
: https://youtu.be/d_b68B4t68c
: https://youtu.be/R7GbqrkpDTA
: https://youtu.be/pS0vGOCTwyg
: 最後分享一個操作上的小發現給同樣在練習技術的朋友們
: 中下段的迴避按兩次會出現翻滾
: 而這個翻滾的迴避攻擊又跟一般的迴避攻擊不同(一般迴避攻擊已經幾乎沒看到人在用)
: 至於怎麼應用在實戰 尤其是對人
: 就看大家怎麼發揮
: 大guy是醬
: 謝謝大家
原PO有說不喜歡不要看,我沒有不喜歡只是原PO可能對於難度這回事的想法沒有想透徹。
一款遊戲難度的感覺到底怎麼來的?
實際上是一般玩家玩一輪後的感受(基本上連多輪都不討論)
我舉個例子,一般我們總說黑魂一難度大於黑魂三,黑魂三比較親民云云。
但是當你開始研究或是說自虐的時候──我提一個比較普遍的自虐手法 等級一通關
這時候黑魂三的難度>>>黑魂一,黑魂一因為有智障救星咒術之火
雙王只要對著翁斯坦噴三下引燃烈火就進二階段,對著斯摩丟幾塊屎塊就過了。
但是討論普遍難度的時候絕對不應該把這些東西帶進來,為什麼?因為沒有個上限
難道別人說黑魂三簡單我還要把我空手撕王或是等級一八輪的影片拿出來說黑魂三很難?
回到仁王
仁王我自己玩一輪大概把一種武器點到奧義加上一些陰陽與忍術差不多就結束了。
在這樣的體驗下仁王自然是不困難,但仁王當然可以很難。
這邊就要請出我心中的神──TolomeoR
TolomeoR怎麼打仁王boss?
不升等不用技能不翻滾不墊步不陰陽不忍術不道具,簡單講就是只能走路+普攻
https://goo.gl/Cuzkqy 這邊有他放在youtube上的仁王影片,twitch台有更多可以看
但是拿這個來討論難度並沒有意義,難度沒有個上限,他還可以拔掉武器。
難度由玩家普遍感受決定。
仁王就是一款沒有那麼困難的遊戲。
--
: 先說
: 以下不是針對原po
: 而且帶有些情緒性用語
: 不過真的是仁王發售到現在 看了很多
: 真的不吐不快
: 不喜歡的請忽略
: 哈囉?
: 還記不記得那個怪追到天涯海角的阿法測試?
: 當初的仁王原本就是打算作成超級硬派
: 是經過了三次測試彙整玩家意見才調整成現在這樣
: 在我看來正式版的裝備強化系統跟陰陽術都是為了兼容ㄧ些動作苦手的輕玩家所作的配套
: 措施
: 結果現在被ㄧ堆人訕笑說好簡單
: 別忘了人家本來是有打算作成死到你笑
: 都笑不出來的難度
: 我是不知道ㄧ邊說仁王簡單ㄧ邊+10神兵遲緩符用爽爽的人多不多啦
: 我也不能理解為什麼不能說嫌太簡單就去壓裝壓等打強者
: 說真的啦 每種武器 每種武技 光動作的變化性就作得很細膩
: 更不用說加上上中下段跟紫電 這樣延伸出來的連段變化性有多大
: 這原本就是Team Ninja的強項 人家也端出來了 結果呢?
: 這樣的亮點完全被埋沒
: 有沒有人討論怎麼連招打得漂亮有觀賞性?
: 沒有
: 各討論區的攻略不是oo無腦打法就是xx速刷密技
: 你如果說是配裝心得也就算了
: 畢竟我自已雖然常壓裝在練技巧
: 但也還是會弄神裝來滿足自己虛榮心
: 但我從來不會因為裝備上來了而誤以為自己技術變好了而去笑說仁王很簡單
: 那些說仁王簡單的
: 請問你打怪打王已經可以流暢切換上中下段跟各式武器武技還有活用殘心流轉了嗎?
: 還是永遠只會ㄧ招半式打天下
: 有的話麻煩貼個影片大家開開眼界
: 如果說裝備強化系統跟陰陽術是遊戲既有設定 為什麼不能在使用它的基礎上去笑仁王簡
: 單
: 那流轉殘心武技那些也是啊 怎麼不見你用得很溜 打得行雲流水 怪不沾身
: 分享幾段我個人認為稱得上技術的影片
: 至少我自已是以這樣的目標在練習
: https://youtu.be/d_b68B4t68c
: 中下段的迴避按兩次會出現翻滾
: 而這個翻滾的迴避攻擊又跟一般的迴避攻擊不同(一般迴避攻擊已經幾乎沒看到人在用)
: 至於怎麼應用在實戰 尤其是對人
: 就看大家怎麼發揮
: 大guy是醬
: 謝謝大家
原PO有說不喜歡不要看,我沒有不喜歡只是原PO可能對於難度這回事的想法沒有想透徹。
一款遊戲難度的感覺到底怎麼來的?
實際上是一般玩家玩一輪後的感受(基本上連多輪都不討論)
我舉個例子,一般我們總說黑魂一難度大於黑魂三,黑魂三比較親民云云。
但是當你開始研究或是說自虐的時候──我提一個比較普遍的自虐手法 等級一通關
這時候黑魂三的難度>>>黑魂一,黑魂一因為有智障救星咒術之火
雙王只要對著翁斯坦噴三下引燃烈火就進二階段,對著斯摩丟幾塊屎塊就過了。
但是討論普遍難度的時候絕對不應該把這些東西帶進來,為什麼?因為沒有個上限
難道別人說黑魂三簡單我還要把我空手撕王或是等級一八輪的影片拿出來說黑魂三很難?
回到仁王
仁王我自己玩一輪大概把一種武器點到奧義加上一些陰陽與忍術差不多就結束了。
在這樣的體驗下仁王自然是不困難,但仁王當然可以很難。
這邊就要請出我心中的神──TolomeoR
TolomeoR怎麼打仁王boss?
不升等不用技能不翻滾不墊步不陰陽不忍術不道具,簡單講就是只能走路+普攻
https://goo.gl/Cuzkqy 這邊有他放在youtube上的仁王影片,twitch台有更多可以看
但是拿這個來討論難度並沒有意義,難度沒有個上限,他還可以拔掉武器。
難度由玩家普遍感受決定。
仁王就是一款沒有那麼困難的遊戲。
--
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