岐路旅人2全破了,這代真的好讚 - Steam

By Thomas
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※ 引述《kons (kons)》之銘言:
: 我發現你對CRPG的定義滿奇怪的,
: CRPG指的是電腦上的角色扮演遊戲
: https://i.imgur.com/v7Jq7Ec.png
: 你要指跟JRPG(日式RPG)對應的詞,應該是WRPG(西式RPG)
原文恕刪。
您引用的 CRPG 定義是對的,但 CRPG 的定義不僅於此。
在電子遊戲發展史上,TRPG 漸漸轉型為符合前述定義的 CRPG,
RPG 本身又在歷代天才的挑戰與創新之下衍生出諸多特質。
如今的 CRPG,已用於概括脫胎自那段過渡期的特定遊戲類型 (genre)。
好比,我們不會說巫師是 CRPG,
但在您的光譜中偏向中心點的神諭原罪,卻顯然是 CRPG。
相對之下,JRPG 也絕非日廠所出品 RPG 之統稱,
FF/DQ 是 JRPG,寶可夢是寶可夢,薩爾達偶有人誤認是 ARPG 但其實是 AAVG。
雖然我能瞭解您試圖闡明以 "WRPG" 稱之的脈絡,但我個人認為這是畫錯重點。
那麼明顯受 JRPG 影響,
卻劇情豐富、分歧多元、觸及人心的 Undertale 算是什麼呢?
介面和戰鬥繼承自 CRPG,
然而敘事匱乏、走向單一,卻開啟全新遊戲類型的暗黑破壞神又算是什麼呢?
"WRPG" 不但少見於電子遊戲史的敘述當中,也非特定遊戲類型的代稱。
最主要的是,如此的二分法並無法總結出 RPG 與劇情導向之間的決定性差異。
您在大前提上否定了 CRPG 做為一種遊戲類型的事實。
然而如今的電子遊戲已經強烈地趨於類型化 (我不確定有沒有相對應的英文),
這個現象從 Steam 的標籤系統便能窺知一二。
電子遊戲發展迄今已有半世紀,
我們或許劃分了尚稱足夠的標籤和類型來歸納這些遊戲,
但這僅僅是 0 與 1、是與否之間的取捨,也僅是一種承先。
而啟後呢?
如同您所劃分的光譜,
樂觀來看,日後勢必會出現更多難以透過單一光譜定義的作品。
我們或許還要劃分出許多光譜做為維度,
才能界定一款作品與另一款作品之間,在特定層面上的關聯性。
更樂觀一點,在我們有生之年中,或許能夠見證一款不可言喻的遊戲誕生。
雖然您所描述的 WPRG/JRPG 相對概念,或許不足以定義電子遊戲。
但身為玩家,
如此缺乏明確定義的電子遊戲,正是令我們如此著迷的原因,不是嗎?
一點淺見,歡迎指教。
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: 我發現你對CRPG的定義滿奇怪的,
: CRPG指的是電腦上的角色扮演遊戲
: https://i.imgur.com/v7Jq7Ec.png

原文恕刪。
您引用的 CRPG 定義是對的,但 CRPG 的定義不僅於此。
在電子遊戲發展史上,TRPG 漸漸轉型為符合前述定義的 CRPG,
RPG 本身又在歷代天才的挑戰與創新之下衍生出諸多特質。
如今的 CRPG,已用於概括脫胎自那段過渡期的特定遊戲類型 (genre)。
好比,我們不會說巫師是 CRPG,
但在您的光譜中偏向中心點的神諭原罪,卻顯然是 CRPG。
相對之下,JRPG 也絕非日廠所出品 RPG 之統稱,
FF/DQ 是 JRPG,寶可夢是寶可夢,薩爾達偶有人誤認是 ARPG 但其實是 AAVG。
雖然我能瞭解您試圖闡明以 "WRPG" 稱之的脈絡,但我個人認為這是畫錯重點。
那麼明顯受 JRPG 影響,
卻劇情豐富、分歧多元、觸及人心的 Undertale 算是什麼呢?
介面和戰鬥繼承自 CRPG,
然而敘事匱乏、走向單一,卻開啟全新遊戲類型的暗黑破壞神又算是什麼呢?
"WRPG" 不但少見於電子遊戲史的敘述當中,也非特定遊戲類型的代稱。
最主要的是,如此的二分法並無法總結出 RPG 與劇情導向之間的決定性差異。
您在大前提上否定了 CRPG 做為一種遊戲類型的事實。
然而如今的電子遊戲已經強烈地趨於類型化 (我不確定有沒有相對應的英文),
這個現象從 Steam 的標籤系統便能窺知一二。
電子遊戲發展迄今已有半世紀,
我們或許劃分了尚稱足夠的標籤和類型來歸納這些遊戲,
但這僅僅是 0 與 1、是與否之間的取捨,也僅是一種承先。
而啟後呢?
如同您所劃分的光譜,
樂觀來看,日後勢必會出現更多難以透過單一光譜定義的作品。
我們或許還要劃分出許多光譜做為維度,
才能界定一款作品與另一款作品之間,在特定層面上的關聯性。
更樂觀一點,在我們有生之年中,或許能夠見證一款不可言喻的遊戲誕生。
雖然您所描述的 WPRG/JRPG 相對概念,或許不足以定義電子遊戲。
但身為玩家,
如此缺乏明確定義的電子遊戲,正是令我們如此著迷的原因,不是嗎?
一點淺見,歡迎指教。
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