圖騰的平衡問題 - 爐石戰記

By Irma
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※ 引述《sunny1991225 (麵包超羊)》之銘言:
: 其實也是剛剛在討論串有人提到薩滿目前的圖騰實在不夠實用的問題才想到的。
: 有在玩儍滿的玩家都知道,儍滿的圖騰除了某些被算成圖騰的指定卡之外,基本款放出來
: 是在梭哈,偏偏很多時候儍滿又得依賴圖騰解圍,前期魔力偏少的情況下沒梭到常常就是
: 一路輸到脫褲。難道BZ沒想過讓玩家自己決定要打啥圖騰出來嗎?明明只要配合某些配套
: 政策(同圖騰只能有一張在場上之類的)就能讓這個能力不會太過分,不然現在儍滿打起來
: 真的都像在賭博,起手牌在賭,抽牌也在賭,連天生技...也要賭,而索爾你連自己會叫
: 出什麼圖騰都不知道竟然還稱最強薩滿,也是奇聞一樁了。
看到有人出來討論圖騰,實在是有點忍不住出來吐嘈
bz的設計師對錯估了圖騰能力與價值
首先是天生技的補血圖騰
遠古時代這張圖騰是可以補英雄一滴血的,後來被移除了
我一直不知道這個移除的意義到底在哪
不管是哪個時代,薩滿就是被獵人吃得死死的
多補一滴血能對獵人的勝率就轉過來嗎?能高個3%就要偷笑了
而對其它職,這一滴血可有可無,實在不懂移除的意義在哪
當然啦,有總比沒有好,對勝率可能影響不大,對玩家的對戰心理有影響倒是真的
再次就是二費那張真正的補血圖騰
單從水晶的角度來說,二費補四,根本就不及格
還是說bz真認為這張內建嘲諷該算成二費補七?
真需要這張下來補血的時候,搞不好對方根本無視你,繼續go face
因為不差四血直接帶走你了
薩滿有辦法讓這張活超過一回合的時候我看不用這張也會贏啦
講白的,這張再多一個「嘲諷」也未必有人會把他放到牌組裡
就是張糞卡
抽牌圖騰也很尷尬
三費抽兩張是標準,一個0/3的體質生物能抵一張抽牌嗎?
不行吧……
而,抽牌圖騰能活到抽第二張牌,你覺得那個場面下薩滿還需要抽牌才能贏嗎?
我的結論是,bz高估了「每回合…」的價值
(這類能力佔現今所有圖騰3/8,近一半,足夠影響圖騰的強度了)
我猜bz設計之初只是將「下回合」的可能性折半計算
如果是這樣,0/3+圖騰約值0.75水晶,可以接受
但是卡牌遊戲不能只看單張牌,需要卡和卡之間的組合和meta判斷
單看水晶效率的話,自然之力實在是糞得不行是吧?
論ae效果輸奉獻,論水晶/傷害值輸火球,論總輸出量輸復仇之怒
但是有人會小看這張?沒有吧!
甚至提高到七費咆哮德說不定依然威武
圖騰的設計上明顯就是欠缺這些考量導致了圖騰的悲劇
除了火舌圖騰外,圖騰都是單卡能力,幾乎沒有combo可以開發
圖騰流的薩滿論舖場、論單卡能力體質、論combo
全部被主流海放……怎麼可能玩得起來……
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: 其實也是剛剛在討論串有人提到薩滿目前的圖騰實在不夠實用的問題才想到的。
: 有在玩儍滿的玩家都知道,儍滿的圖騰除了某些被算成圖騰的指定卡之外,基本款放出來
: 是在梭哈,偏偏很多時候儍滿又得依賴圖騰解圍,前期魔力偏少的情況下沒梭到常常就是
: 一路輸到脫褲。難道BZ沒想過讓玩家自己決定要打啥圖騰出來嗎?明明只要配合某些配套
: 政策(同圖騰只能有一張在場上之類的)就能讓這個能力不會太過分,不然現在儍滿打起來
: 真的都像在賭博,起手牌在賭,抽牌也在賭,連天生技...也要賭,而索爾你連自己會叫
: 出什麼圖騰都不知道竟然還稱最強薩滿,也是奇聞一樁了。
看到有人出來討論圖騰,實在是有點忍不住出來吐嘈
bz的設計師對錯估了圖騰能力與價值
首先是天生技的補血圖騰
遠古時代這張圖騰是可以補英雄一滴血的,後來被移除了
我一直不知道這個移除的意義到底在哪
不管是哪個時代,薩滿就是被獵人吃得死死的
多補一滴血能對獵人的勝率就轉過來嗎?能高個3%就要偷笑了
而對其它職,這一滴血可有可無,實在不懂移除的意義在哪
當然啦,有總比沒有好,對勝率可能影響不大,對玩家的對戰心理有影響倒是真的
再次就是二費那張真正的補血圖騰
單從水晶的角度來說,二費補四,根本就不及格
還是說bz真認為這張內建嘲諷該算成二費補七?
真需要這張下來補血的時候,搞不好對方根本無視你,繼續go face
因為不差四血直接帶走你了
薩滿有辦法讓這張活超過一回合的時候我看不用這張也會贏啦
講白的,這張再多一個「嘲諷」也未必有人會把他放到牌組裡
就是張糞卡
抽牌圖騰也很尷尬
三費抽兩張是標準,一個0/3的體質生物能抵一張抽牌嗎?
不行吧……
而,抽牌圖騰能活到抽第二張牌,你覺得那個場面下薩滿還需要抽牌才能贏嗎?
我的結論是,bz高估了「每回合…」的價值
(這類能力佔現今所有圖騰3/8,近一半,足夠影響圖騰的強度了)
我猜bz設計之初只是將「下回合」的可能性折半計算
如果是這樣,0/3+圖騰約值0.75水晶,可以接受
但是卡牌遊戲不能只看單張牌,需要卡和卡之間的組合和meta判斷
單看水晶效率的話,自然之力實在是糞得不行是吧?
論ae效果輸奉獻,論水晶/傷害值輸火球,論總輸出量輸復仇之怒
但是有人會小看這張?沒有吧!
甚至提高到七費咆哮德說不定依然威武
圖騰的設計上明顯就是欠缺這些考量導致了圖騰的悲劇
除了火舌圖騰外,圖騰都是單卡能力,幾乎沒有combo可以開發
圖騰流的薩滿論舖場、論單卡能力體質、論combo
全部被主流海放……怎麼可能玩得起來……
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