其實我覺得申公很不錯阿! - 神魔之塔

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※ 引述《kkroy (☆㊣↖煞氣ㄟ阿喂↘ξ★)》之銘言:
: 當然這隊屁股超大,技能超難練,
不好意思 這已經超過超難練的範圍了
: 但至少都是可以接受的範圍:
: 1. 技能要吃slv5的順風耳 吃到slv15 ,進化要兩重生兩共生一大魂
: ==> 練技地獄 & 鑰匙打魂 or 1234封練技順便打魂
簡稱一覽
破=破碎魂(一封)
重=重生魂(二封)
共=共生魂(三封)
永=永恆魂(四封)
我們從下列角度來看 雙子的練技難度跟申公豹的練技難度到底差了多少
1. 進化素材的取得
中屎進化成大屎需要的素材(破破重共永) 公會任務剛好提供一組
柳鬼(順風耳退化)的進化素材(重重共共永) 一次的公會任務還不夠 所以你要再打
2. 素材的量產難度
小屎在一封隨便打都有 多到可以互吃到技5(甚至可以吃小魔女)再進化
柳鬼? 我刷了一條體的初級(137) 只有一張
Extra難度R15好像必掉一張...?
假設你刷初級 碎片加倍時一場約1.5個碎片(論碎片的量產絕對是初級比較高)
我算你一條體掉一張好了
56體打7場初級拿10碎片 去打Extra打到R15 拿到一張柳鬼
112體一共可以從Extra的R15拿到兩張 同時在初級打到一張
所以你平均花112體才能打到3張技1的柳鬼
小屎呢? 我上禮拜二作火大屎的經驗是 一封體半刷一條體可以生出9張滿技的小屎
(有小屎帶出來練再互吃的話 否則只能生出6張左右)
柳鬼真的太稀有了 互吃太浪費 我假設你把他們通通帶到滿技(技5)好了
你要花224體才能生出6張滿技(技5)的柳鬼
要把這6張滿技的柳鬼進化 你需要
2*6=12個重生魂
2*6=12個共生魂
1*6=6個永恆魂
你要打公會任務呢? 還是要去暗二三四封刷到死?
好 你把這六張柳鬼進化後互吃 你可以得到一張技7~10的順風耳
假設你人品很好 每次這樣吃都技8 (這已經是很好運了)
重複三次之後 8+8*2=10 你可以得到一張技10的順風耳
再重複兩輪後 10+10*2=15 你可以得到一張滿技的順風耳
這樣子的成本至少是雙子的5倍 完全不能比擬
3. 滿技的成本與價值
有心的話 找一天暗一封體半 狂刷暗1-3
就經驗來講 一天 花5~7顆石頭就能讓雙子滿技了(耗時5~8小時)
再看看其他技15的卡
妲己: 不手軟直接餵鳥
大蒼: 不手軟直接餵鳥 因為大蒼是龍隊的核心 CD8用起來就是爽
奧丁: 吃一堆小奧丁練到滿 或是手動練滿 CD10的奧丁用起來超OP
會餵奧丁吃鳥的玩家不多
其他封王同理 但奧丁是我看過最熱門(指打一堆互吃這件事)的封王
遊俠: 除了水遊之外都是最大技15 滿技價值光>火>>木>暗
但...我真的沒看過哪個人會去刷一堆小木遊然後吃到滿的
其他: 像色慾 妖精女王等功能卡 滿技必要性沒那麼高 只有極少數玩家會去練滿技
申公豹對暗隊的buff非常有限 成本又高到哭爸
設定成技15 CD5 心轉強暗 你真的覺得值得嗎?
如果今天是技12 CD5就算了 像天蠍技12就滿技 幾乎所有暗隊玩家就會餵鳥
我這樣問你好了...
假設今天申公豹是最大技12 CD5 你會餵他鳥嗎?
回歸到現實 你現在已經知道他的技能這麼難練了 那你會餵他鳥嗎?
還是花三四十顆石頭去刷一堆柳鬼跟進化素材...?
: 2. 隊伍空間額外+7
: ==> 洛, 奧, 奧, 雙, 申 隊伍空間要119,等於帳號等級236級
: 唉,可惜沒抽到.....
: 以上拙見,歡迎討論。
再來是你在推文所回應的部分
: 這可能是個問題,上面有鄉民實測過了,柳鬼好像刷了127體還沒半張。
恩 你也知道量產難度超高喔...
: 也許可觀望看看是不是之後會提高掉落率,或透過友抽獲得。
: 如果真有愛的話,了不起帶到9級吃鳥完事,鳥現在洞窟也能打了,
: 靠煞氣ㄟ魔法石戰隊,總會練滿的。
: 好用與否,不能算是假議題。看你對這張牌有沒有愛而已。
: 想當初雙子也被嫌技能難練不好用不是嗎?
這句話是重點 完全不能比
: 最後還是有出路可以解的。
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--
: 當然這隊屁股超大,技能超難練,
不好意思 這已經超過超難練的範圍了
: 但至少都是可以接受的範圍:
: 1. 技能要吃slv5的順風耳 吃到slv15 ,進化要兩重生兩共生一大魂
: ==> 練技地獄 & 鑰匙打魂 or 1234封練技順便打魂
簡稱一覽
破=破碎魂(一封)
重=重生魂(二封)
共=共生魂(三封)
永=永恆魂(四封)
我們從下列角度來看 雙子的練技難度跟申公豹的練技難度到底差了多少
1. 進化素材的取得
中屎進化成大屎需要的素材(破破重共永) 公會任務剛好提供一組
柳鬼(順風耳退化)的進化素材(重重共共永) 一次的公會任務還不夠 所以你要再打
2. 素材的量產難度
小屎在一封隨便打都有 多到可以互吃到技5(甚至可以吃小魔女)再進化
柳鬼? 我刷了一條體的初級(137) 只有一張
Extra難度R15好像必掉一張...?
假設你刷初級 碎片加倍時一場約1.5個碎片(論碎片的量產絕對是初級比較高)
我算你一條體掉一張好了
56體打7場初級拿10碎片 去打Extra打到R15 拿到一張柳鬼
112體一共可以從Extra的R15拿到兩張 同時在初級打到一張
所以你平均花112體才能打到3張技1的柳鬼
小屎呢? 我上禮拜二作火大屎的經驗是 一封體半刷一條體可以生出9張滿技的小屎
(有小屎帶出來練再互吃的話 否則只能生出6張左右)
柳鬼真的太稀有了 互吃太浪費 我假設你把他們通通帶到滿技(技5)好了
你要花224體才能生出6張滿技(技5)的柳鬼
要把這6張滿技的柳鬼進化 你需要
2*6=12個重生魂
2*6=12個共生魂
1*6=6個永恆魂
你要打公會任務呢? 還是要去暗二三四封刷到死?
好 你把這六張柳鬼進化後互吃 你可以得到一張技7~10的順風耳
假設你人品很好 每次這樣吃都技8 (這已經是很好運了)
重複三次之後 8+8*2=10 你可以得到一張技10的順風耳
再重複兩輪後 10+10*2=15 你可以得到一張滿技的順風耳
這樣子的成本至少是雙子的5倍 完全不能比擬
3. 滿技的成本與價值
有心的話 找一天暗一封體半 狂刷暗1-3
就經驗來講 一天 花5~7顆石頭就能讓雙子滿技了(耗時5~8小時)
再看看其他技15的卡
妲己: 不手軟直接餵鳥
大蒼: 不手軟直接餵鳥 因為大蒼是龍隊的核心 CD8用起來就是爽
奧丁: 吃一堆小奧丁練到滿 或是手動練滿 CD10的奧丁用起來超OP
會餵奧丁吃鳥的玩家不多
其他封王同理 但奧丁是我看過最熱門(指打一堆互吃這件事)的封王
遊俠: 除了水遊之外都是最大技15 滿技價值光>火>>木>暗
但...我真的沒看過哪個人會去刷一堆小木遊然後吃到滿的
其他: 像色慾 妖精女王等功能卡 滿技必要性沒那麼高 只有極少數玩家會去練滿技
申公豹對暗隊的buff非常有限 成本又高到哭爸
設定成技15 CD5 心轉強暗 你真的覺得值得嗎?
如果今天是技12 CD5就算了 像天蠍技12就滿技 幾乎所有暗隊玩家就會餵鳥
我這樣問你好了...
假設今天申公豹是最大技12 CD5 你會餵他鳥嗎?
回歸到現實 你現在已經知道他的技能這麼難練了 那你會餵他鳥嗎?
還是花三四十顆石頭去刷一堆柳鬼跟進化素材...?
: 2. 隊伍空間額外+7
: ==> 洛, 奧, 奧, 雙, 申 隊伍空間要119,等於帳號等級236級
: 唉,可惜沒抽到.....
: 以上拙見,歡迎討論。
再來是你在推文所回應的部分
: 這可能是個問題,上面有鄉民實測過了,柳鬼好像刷了127體還沒半張。
恩 你也知道量產難度超高喔...
: 也許可觀望看看是不是之後會提高掉落率,或透過友抽獲得。
: 如果真有愛的話,了不起帶到9級吃鳥完事,鳥現在洞窟也能打了,
: 靠煞氣ㄟ魔法石戰隊,總會練滿的。
: 好用與否,不能算是假議題。看你對這張牌有沒有愛而已。
: 想當初雙子也被嫌技能難練不好用不是嗎?
這句話是重點 完全不能比
: 最後還是有出路可以解的。
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