一位遊戲開發商對PS開發環境的感言 - PS
By Jacky
at 2022-09-03T11:24
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※ 引述《Garrod (Garrod)》之銘言:
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: 日本一位獨立遊戲開發商 在推特推了一篇文
: 是對於現今PS開發環境 有感而發而寫的一些感言
: twitter
: https://twitter.com/eiki_okuma/status/1565621873739644928
: note
: https://t.co/y7pHRtXl49
: 其大意大概是 該人員最近跟其他同行聊天
: 最近常聊到説 "PS有點不大妙阿"這件事
: 先説 該人員並不是想要藉此評擊PS
: 只是希望能讓大家感受到現在他們改受到的危機意識而已
: 以下是該人員文章的簡約翻譯整理
: note裡面寫的更詳盡 但還請體諒這邊沒那麼多體力全翻
: 另因為我對一些專有名詞不熟 如果有錯還請包涵
: ---------------------
: 遊戲不好開發
: 任天堂從很早以前 就已經能讓個人開發者(應該就是獨立製作遊戲)
: 註冊到開發商專用入口網站(portal site)。好進行開發機的購買跟遊戲的發行。
: 但PS到現在依舊只有法人能有此管道。
: 而且PS的入口網站很難用。因為SIE核心已經轉移到美國,
: 主要資訊跟支援窗口幾乎都是英文。
: 遊戲發行的規約也寫得很繁雜難懂。總之大家都覺得就是難開發。
: 當然還有很多不能講的雜七雜巴的細節。
: 這十年遊戲開發商能很輕易比較任天堂、Steam跟PS4的開發環境。
: 其中任天堂不但樣本很細緻 BBS有支援日文 而且回覆很快!
: 而Steam雖然支援窗口稍有點距離感 但它日文的運用手冊(manual)寫得很詳盡
: 而且其高性能控制台(console)從商店資訊到Build的上傳都能很迅速地完成。
: 跟這兩家相比 PS4的狀況就顯得較差。
: 做的遊戲賣不出去
: 這部分可能會因遊戲IP而有差異 但一般來説 如果一開始先賣到PC
: 然後才出Swithc版跟PS4版的話 遊戲會很難賣
: 而且開發成本又是 PC << Switch << PS...
: 因為開發商只能純粹看到(銷售)數字 因此到底問題在哪裡也不知道
: 是因為PS不常做Nintendo Direct 或Indie World之類的直播
: 還是PS商店介面差 導致玩家難看到我們做的遊戲
: 還是因為不像Steam一樣常有Sale 的關係
: 或是像開頭分享的資料一樣 單純PS的市佔率低 或是
: PS4 到 PS5的世代交替失敗的緣故 都不得而知
: ---------------------
: 這應該算是日本的中小開發商的角度所看到的目前整體環境現況
: 相信這裡應該有些大大 本身也是有做開發的工作
: 除了讓大家有機會討論 也希望這些大大能有機會分享現況
少了第三段,幫你補上
‧市場被PC所侵蝕
日本的PC玩家人數最近大量增加中,以全球來看的話更是在日本之上。有傳聞說艾爾登
法環的銷售幾乎都是PC(譯註:他只提到開發商有方法可以推估出來,沒說明情報來源)
「總之PC、PS、XBOX多平台開發不就好了」,這是到2010年代初期的風潮,現今已經變
成「PC賣最好,製作最簡單,所以只做PC就好」。如此一來小型的開發商就會以PC為主
力進行開發,而玩家也會有「反正會上多平台,那我買PC就好」的想法,陷入一種負面
循環。
(譯註:這邊應該是指玩家只買PC版←→廠商只想開發PC版,導致其他平台沒人想開發
,當然他是以獨立遊戲開發的角度來看)
要說對於這種現象感到困擾的是誰的話,是那些畫面表現超過NS硬體限制,製作面向日
本的A~AA遊戲的中堅公司,他們沒辦法接觸到任何消費者,明確地說就是死了。
雖說PC玩家數暴增,但日本的家機領域還算得上強,特別是小學~中學生玩PC遊戲的人
數很少。從前我們在童年時期玩過的優秀AA家機遊戲的開發商,要是在現今用同樣方法
製作遊戲的話,銷售通路會被極大幅度限縮。
「在手機上的熱門遊戲」,結果上來說遊戲設計被大幅限縮,受限於平台,遊戲方式也
被大幅度限制。我認為對於遊戲文化是種大的損失。雖說只要能賣就是正義……
這種情況在NS熱賣的現在或許看起來沒什麼問題,但我有時候會閃過這種念頭,假設NS
在五年前也慘遭滑鐵盧的話,或許早就變成除了手機跟PC以外,家機根本賣不出去,跟
死了一樣的情況也說不定。
(譯註:再次聲明他是指獨立遊戲開發的情況,各大公司開發的遊戲不在此文章的討論
範圍之內)
--
廚廚復廚廚,木蘭中路廚;不聞支援聲,唯見三嘆息;
問女何冥門,問女何坦營,前線有冥門,據點有坦營。
昨夜軍管區,文賓大點兵;國任十二場;場場對AT;
前線無防滿,隊友無鑲嵌;願為M盾戰,從此發佛心。
東路被放生,西路被蓋傷,南路被集火,北路被肛肛。
~選自卡薩多民歌《木蘭詩》
--
: --本篇討論可能含有性議題或令人不快之內容,無法接受此類話題者請自行斟酌閱讀--
: 日本一位獨立遊戲開發商 在推特推了一篇文
: 是對於現今PS開發環境 有感而發而寫的一些感言
: https://twitter.com/eiki_okuma/status/1565621873739644928
: note
: https://t.co/y7pHRtXl49
: 其大意大概是 該人員最近跟其他同行聊天
: 最近常聊到説 "PS有點不大妙阿"這件事
: 先説 該人員並不是想要藉此評擊PS
: 只是希望能讓大家感受到現在他們改受到的危機意識而已
: 以下是該人員文章的簡約翻譯整理
: note裡面寫的更詳盡 但還請體諒這邊沒那麼多體力全翻
: 另因為我對一些專有名詞不熟 如果有錯還請包涵
: ---------------------
: 遊戲不好開發
: 任天堂從很早以前 就已經能讓個人開發者(應該就是獨立製作遊戲)
: 註冊到開發商專用入口網站(portal site)。好進行開發機的購買跟遊戲的發行。
: 但PS到現在依舊只有法人能有此管道。
: 而且PS的入口網站很難用。因為SIE核心已經轉移到美國,
: 主要資訊跟支援窗口幾乎都是英文。
: 遊戲發行的規約也寫得很繁雜難懂。總之大家都覺得就是難開發。
: 當然還有很多不能講的雜七雜巴的細節。
: 這十年遊戲開發商能很輕易比較任天堂、Steam跟PS4的開發環境。
: 其中任天堂不但樣本很細緻 BBS有支援日文 而且回覆很快!
: 而Steam雖然支援窗口稍有點距離感 但它日文的運用手冊(manual)寫得很詳盡
: 而且其高性能控制台(console)從商店資訊到Build的上傳都能很迅速地完成。
: 跟這兩家相比 PS4的狀況就顯得較差。
: 做的遊戲賣不出去
: 這部分可能會因遊戲IP而有差異 但一般來説 如果一開始先賣到PC
: 然後才出Swithc版跟PS4版的話 遊戲會很難賣
: 而且開發成本又是 PC << Switch << PS...
: 因為開發商只能純粹看到(銷售)數字 因此到底問題在哪裡也不知道
: 是因為PS不常做Nintendo Direct 或Indie World之類的直播
: 還是PS商店介面差 導致玩家難看到我們做的遊戲
: 還是因為不像Steam一樣常有Sale 的關係
: 或是像開頭分享的資料一樣 單純PS的市佔率低 或是
: PS4 到 PS5的世代交替失敗的緣故 都不得而知
: ---------------------
: 這應該算是日本的中小開發商的角度所看到的目前整體環境現況
: 相信這裡應該有些大大 本身也是有做開發的工作
: 除了讓大家有機會討論 也希望這些大大能有機會分享現況
少了第三段,幫你補上
‧市場被PC所侵蝕
日本的PC玩家人數最近大量增加中,以全球來看的話更是在日本之上。有傳聞說艾爾登
法環的銷售幾乎都是PC(譯註:他只提到開發商有方法可以推估出來,沒說明情報來源)
「總之PC、PS、XBOX多平台開發不就好了」,這是到2010年代初期的風潮,現今已經變
成「PC賣最好,製作最簡單,所以只做PC就好」。如此一來小型的開發商就會以PC為主
力進行開發,而玩家也會有「反正會上多平台,那我買PC就好」的想法,陷入一種負面
循環。
(譯註:這邊應該是指玩家只買PC版←→廠商只想開發PC版,導致其他平台沒人想開發
,當然他是以獨立遊戲開發的角度來看)
要說對於這種現象感到困擾的是誰的話,是那些畫面表現超過NS硬體限制,製作面向日
本的A~AA遊戲的中堅公司,他們沒辦法接觸到任何消費者,明確地說就是死了。
雖說PC玩家數暴增,但日本的家機領域還算得上強,特別是小學~中學生玩PC遊戲的人
數很少。從前我們在童年時期玩過的優秀AA家機遊戲的開發商,要是在現今用同樣方法
製作遊戲的話,銷售通路會被極大幅度限縮。
「在手機上的熱門遊戲」,結果上來說遊戲設計被大幅限縮,受限於平台,遊戲方式也
被大幅度限制。我認為對於遊戲文化是種大的損失。雖說只要能賣就是正義……
這種情況在NS熱賣的現在或許看起來沒什麼問題,但我有時候會閃過這種念頭,假設NS
在五年前也慘遭滑鐵盧的話,或許早就變成除了手機跟PC以外,家機根本賣不出去,跟
死了一樣的情況也說不定。
(譯註:再次聲明他是指獨立遊戲開發的情況,各大公司開發的遊戲不在此文章的討論
範圍之內)
--
廚廚復廚廚,木蘭中路廚;不聞支援聲,唯見三嘆息;
問女何冥門,問女何坦營,前線有冥門,據點有坦營。
昨夜軍管區,文賓大點兵;國任十二場;場場對AT;
前線無防滿,隊友無鑲嵌;願為M盾戰,從此發佛心。
東路被放生,西路被蓋傷,南路被集火,北路被肛肛。
~選自卡薩多民歌《木蘭詩》
--
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