「北域的異轉」即將推出 北歐神「轉生」 - 神魔之塔
By Vanessa
at 2015-10-03T13:19
at 2015-10-03T13:19
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※ 引述《a3225737 (Hong/轟哥/Hsiaoboyo)》之銘言:
: 這次被抱怨的問題莫過於
: 1.轉生素材
: 第一種:槓!三號角是三小,以為拎北開樂器行喔?
: 第二種:有多少人會練雙北歐,或是留沒什麼用的第二隻角色?
: (官方影片雙北隊長還放北歐當隊員 WTF?每一屬都這樣搞是要多少喇叭?)
: 2.組合技跟強度
: 3.5*3.5有很強嘛?參考前面這篇 #1M3mQqji (ToS)
: 轉生北歐一組屬珠6C 是27.5萬,強珠則是52.3萬。
: 巴比倫3直排5C(不含屬珠)是37.8萬,3直排(含4顆屬珠)5C是64.8萬。
: 不含屬珠且少北歐1c就多快5成,不用強珠就輾過北歐神
: 有人會說又不是每個人都神轉
: 可是你今天玩兄弟隊會不轉光暗?你今天玩巴比會不轉直排?
: 還是說你開豬女天天3c?
: 少騙人了,你用條件限制的隊長或主動技會不盡力去達成條件
: CD8大號令能吃嘛,轉出來還沒心珠,西遊笑到內褲都鬆了
: 暗隊還不如放豹哥,CD5轉出來的數量又不差
: 吃了五隻喇叭,解放昇華轉生通通都有了,還比不上巴比倫那是幹啥吃的?
: 純倍率隊長在這種倍率通膨年代真的是很難救
: 算一下從以前625隊變成9倍隊攻擊力上升1.44倍
: 從9倍到12.25倍剩下1.36倍(越上去倍率增加幅度越少)
: 今天假使北奧16倍會有多少人用?
: 綁這麼多隊員,吃這麼多資源,才差不多跟便宜好用發展性無限的巴比打平?
: 3.隊員
: 巴比:你說什麼隊員?
: 北奧本身CD這麼長,現在關卡常常R3小王你敢不放轉屬?
: 就算血量有倍率又如何,回復沒跟上就跟你毒龍不配水使EJ一樣沒用
: 現在又有新的女武神可以減CD(10變9 WTF?)
: 試問放完這些隊員你剩幾個位置?
: 巴比開場無屬珠就可以在一回合之內製造出強珠
: 北奧場上屬珠不夠多是要去哪生強珠,沒強珠就算強珠100%是有屁用?
: 沒轉屬你確定你可以在現在關卡撐到北歐跳?
: 4.主動技能
: 前面西遊內褲都鬆了,再來呢?
: 現在轉屬CD8不夠特殊還不一定上的了場
: 現在高階玩家有三屬ALL MAX西遊應該不是太困難的是
: (中階玩家不要哭了,因為你連喇叭都不夠)
: 煉化北歐看起來CD沒變,碼的CD10轉強珠被嫌到脫褲
: 兄弟CD5可以轉光暗,連仙劍肥婆都要笑你了
: 現在除了排珠控場之外,CD10可以上的了場的有多少?
: (巴比雖然CD長,但是主動技只是錦上添花而已...反觀...)
: 最幹得莫過於,TMD巴比倫你幾梯的阿,才出來沒多久就可以練技
: 後面出來的機偶,精獸都已經爽爽了,
: 為什麼官方一直想救北歐卻不做這一點?
: 5.再來呢?
: 解放昇華都有之後大家都覺得北歐應該是GG了
: 沒想到又來一個轉生,下一步呢?昇華5?
: 北歐經驗吃得比別人多,進化素材也比別人多,技能又不能練
: 終究還是連巴比倫車尾燈都看不到
: 6.結論
: 巴比倫根本做壞了,沒給到這麼多加成也不會變成這樣...
: (靠X喔不是在討論北歐嗎?)
: 希臘還不是解放昇華還有中間EX COMBO才跟上巴比?
: 7.心得
: MH救援失敗,想出這企劃真是天才,不如讓北歐繼續倉管還比較好
: 如果說北歐隊伍技能改成攻後轉X顆屬珠出來我個人認為還值得一戰
: 狂魔:到了叫我
: 歡迎各種批評指教( ′_>`)
這篇講到很多我也認同的點,所以就借來講一下我的想法
這是我想到目前我認為最理想的改法:
1.七星北歐隊長技都改成X之倏怒(3倍),
隊伍技:隊伍中有潛解奧丁時隊長技改成X屬攻3倍,X屬神族3.5倍
2.七星北歐的主動技都改成CD5的兩種屬性強化 (ex.水火/火木/木水/光水/暗光)
3.奧丁追加第二技能「神槍崗尼爾」(CD8):扣當前隊伍血量75%,給全體敵人10萬無視防禦傷害
=======================================
(1)隊長技的部分,
綁定雙北真的不強,那還不如讓大家能盡量找妲己逍遙隊友,
雖然妲己逍遙吃不到3.5,但攻擊主力本來就不是他們,3倍就夠了
甚至水北還可以找姬氏玩互兼水神魔,或是隊友梅塔特隆的純色3.5神隊
(2)主動技只是隨便舉例,重點是CD5雙色轉強化
想要改成水光/火光/木光.......之類的都可以
從我舉的例子來說,水火木北就都能進同源隊撐三圍,
光北我是考慮到之後等封神解放也許列陣隊能重返榮光(?)
至於洛基…
名字不同就不能用小黃龍練技?
反正都有木玩具-精靈女王這個先例了....
(3)最後是奧丁、到現在唯一沒有雙技能的解放封王,
自殘炮我的想法是就像毒龍的兩個技能連動性(先自殘增傷後補血),
奧丁則是先自殘後增傷,而且滿血開下去剛好是2.5倍增傷,當然血量越低時開傷害越高
前面可以清高防怪,王關可以破隱身兼增傷
就算不放北歐隊應該也能去其他隊伍就業
不知道大家有沒有什麼其他想法可以提出來討論看看?
--
: 這次被抱怨的問題莫過於
: 1.轉生素材
: 第一種:槓!三號角是三小,以為拎北開樂器行喔?
: 第二種:有多少人會練雙北歐,或是留沒什麼用的第二隻角色?
: (官方影片雙北隊長還放北歐當隊員 WTF?每一屬都這樣搞是要多少喇叭?)
: 2.組合技跟強度
: 3.5*3.5有很強嘛?參考前面這篇 #1M3mQqji (ToS)
: 轉生北歐一組屬珠6C 是27.5萬,強珠則是52.3萬。
: 巴比倫3直排5C(不含屬珠)是37.8萬,3直排(含4顆屬珠)5C是64.8萬。
: 不含屬珠且少北歐1c就多快5成,不用強珠就輾過北歐神
: 有人會說又不是每個人都神轉
: 可是你今天玩兄弟隊會不轉光暗?你今天玩巴比會不轉直排?
: 還是說你開豬女天天3c?
: 少騙人了,你用條件限制的隊長或主動技會不盡力去達成條件
: CD8大號令能吃嘛,轉出來還沒心珠,西遊笑到內褲都鬆了
: 暗隊還不如放豹哥,CD5轉出來的數量又不差
: 吃了五隻喇叭,解放昇華轉生通通都有了,還比不上巴比倫那是幹啥吃的?
: 純倍率隊長在這種倍率通膨年代真的是很難救
: 算一下從以前625隊變成9倍隊攻擊力上升1.44倍
: 從9倍到12.25倍剩下1.36倍(越上去倍率增加幅度越少)
: 今天假使北奧16倍會有多少人用?
: 綁這麼多隊員,吃這麼多資源,才差不多跟便宜好用發展性無限的巴比打平?
: 3.隊員
: 巴比:你說什麼隊員?
: 北奧本身CD這麼長,現在關卡常常R3小王你敢不放轉屬?
: 就算血量有倍率又如何,回復沒跟上就跟你毒龍不配水使EJ一樣沒用
: 現在又有新的女武神可以減CD(10變9 WTF?)
: 試問放完這些隊員你剩幾個位置?
: 巴比開場無屬珠就可以在一回合之內製造出強珠
: 北奧場上屬珠不夠多是要去哪生強珠,沒強珠就算強珠100%是有屁用?
: 沒轉屬你確定你可以在現在關卡撐到北歐跳?
: 4.主動技能
: 前面西遊內褲都鬆了,再來呢?
: 現在轉屬CD8不夠特殊還不一定上的了場
: 現在高階玩家有三屬ALL MAX西遊應該不是太困難的是
: (中階玩家不要哭了,因為你連喇叭都不夠)
: 煉化北歐看起來CD沒變,碼的CD10轉強珠被嫌到脫褲
: 兄弟CD5可以轉光暗,連仙劍肥婆都要笑你了
: 現在除了排珠控場之外,CD10可以上的了場的有多少?
: (巴比雖然CD長,但是主動技只是錦上添花而已...反觀...)
: 最幹得莫過於,TMD巴比倫你幾梯的阿,才出來沒多久就可以練技
: 後面出來的機偶,精獸都已經爽爽了,
: 為什麼官方一直想救北歐卻不做這一點?
: 5.再來呢?
: 解放昇華都有之後大家都覺得北歐應該是GG了
: 沒想到又來一個轉生,下一步呢?昇華5?
: 北歐經驗吃得比別人多,進化素材也比別人多,技能又不能練
: 終究還是連巴比倫車尾燈都看不到
: 6.結論
: 巴比倫根本做壞了,沒給到這麼多加成也不會變成這樣...
: (靠X喔不是在討論北歐嗎?)
: 希臘還不是解放昇華還有中間EX COMBO才跟上巴比?
: 7.心得
: MH救援失敗,想出這企劃真是天才,不如讓北歐繼續倉管還比較好
: 如果說北歐隊伍技能改成攻後轉X顆屬珠出來我個人認為還值得一戰
: 狂魔:到了叫我
: 歡迎各種批評指教( ′_>`)
這篇講到很多我也認同的點,所以就借來講一下我的想法
這是我想到目前我認為最理想的改法:
1.七星北歐隊長技都改成X之倏怒(3倍),
隊伍技:隊伍中有潛解奧丁時隊長技改成X屬攻3倍,X屬神族3.5倍
2.七星北歐的主動技都改成CD5的兩種屬性強化 (ex.水火/火木/木水/光水/暗光)
3.奧丁追加第二技能「神槍崗尼爾」(CD8):扣當前隊伍血量75%,給全體敵人10萬無視防禦傷害
=======================================
(1)隊長技的部分,
綁定雙北真的不強,那還不如讓大家能盡量找妲己逍遙隊友,
雖然妲己逍遙吃不到3.5,但攻擊主力本來就不是他們,3倍就夠了
甚至水北還可以找姬氏玩互兼水神魔,或是隊友梅塔特隆的純色3.5神隊
(2)主動技只是隨便舉例,重點是CD5雙色轉強化
想要改成水光/火光/木光.......之類的都可以
從我舉的例子來說,水火木北就都能進同源隊撐三圍,
光北我是考慮到之後等封神解放也許列陣隊能重返榮光(?)
至於洛基…
名字不同就不能用小黃龍練技?
反正都有木玩具-精靈女王這個先例了....
(3)最後是奧丁、到現在唯一沒有雙技能的解放封王,
自殘炮我的想法是就像毒龍的兩個技能連動性(先自殘增傷後補血),
奧丁則是先自殘後增傷,而且滿血開下去剛好是2.5倍增傷,當然血量越低時開傷害越高
前面可以清高防怪,王關可以破隱身兼增傷
就算不放北歐隊應該也能去其他隊伍就業
不知道大家有沒有什麼其他想法可以提出來討論看看?
--
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