p5沒有想像中好玩 - PS

By Ida
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在p5比較沒這麼熱的時候分享一個我的心得
以下是我破完一輪之後的想法體驗
大致上是不推的
如果我有任何誤會的地方 歡迎大家討論
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首先是劇情,定位在高中生的冒險俠盜本身沒什麼問題,但劇情真的頗讓人無感,為
什麼呢?
這劇情若是擺在10年前或更早網路比較不發達的年代,我並不會感覺什麼,但怪就怪在現
在的世界其實資訊非常發達了,裡面的學生,老師直到校長,各個都像溫室裡的小花一樣
,非常沒有真的活在學校裡的感覺,甚至裡面的酒吧,你說這是等比較暗的春水堂其實我
都信,唯一比較有真實感的只有最後的魔王。
坦白說,我只有在最後的時候才有一點真實社會的感覺,像是打體育老師,體育老師
的內心世界一整個非常的幼稚,我們退一萬步想,一個「正常」的大人,都想強姦女學生
了,內心的世界怎麼會只是操練學生而已?怎麼會只是把人關起來而已?若是改成類似神
隱少女裡面的湯婆婆的感覺都更有帶入感,那是需要一種完全被掌控,你無法翻生的壓迫
感,在遊戲中我機乎很少感受到這件事情。
再來是人物之間的情感,也是舉其中一位角色,我想說的是龍司,或許我不太懂日本
的流氓是怎麼樣,就算是電視上演的高中生暴走族流氓或是以前的麻辣教師,怎麼看龍司
一開始把他定位成壞學生非常的不合理,怎麼說呢?
人物的口氣、行為、身上裝扮,撇除頭腦的情況下,這像一個被排擠到處打架的壞學
生嗎?後面的機乎每一位人設,我都有類似的想法
「這是可愛動物區嗎?」
其中比較好的人設我認為只有杏跟雙葉,杏的人物就很接近社會上的那種未滿18歲的
小模,基本上沒什麼可以挑。雙葉的人設也很符合邏輯,因為陰影封閉自己,不擅與人交
集,基本上都是很正常發揮的角色。
其他都讓我感受到脫離現實的感覺,好像在看童話故事一樣,從學校、城市到政府層
級,一直都會讓我想到其實現實生活都比這個困難,你們家家酒到底是玩完了沒,說難聽
點,好人做好事正常,啊反派一直都不怎麼壞,要我怎麼有動力去拯救界,能夠看的反派
也只有最後的boss也是我前面說的最接近湯婆婆的角色。
這個問題很嚴重,因為帶入感不佳,中期之後基本上我都不怎麼管什麼談戀愛了,如
果只要送送東西隨便聊個天就能在一起了,那世界上怎麼還這麼多魯蛇,再者你送的也不
是什麼昂貴或是具有意義的東西,逛個街買幾樣禮物送個幾次就在一起,說實在的,要是
定位在國中生我可以接受,拜託,連裡面的醫生都這樣,我實在無法。
最後是遊戲性的部分,剛開始覺得挺新奇的,實在蠻久沒接觸過回合制的遊戲,從教
學收集面具都不錯,招式也都蠻潮的,但隨著遊戲進行,作業趕越來越重,基本上把怪的
屬性記起來,真的是隨便都可以在2-3回合打贏,除了王有挑戰性,其他都是濃濃的作業
,同樣的音樂,同樣的動畫,同樣要跑結算,我最不能接受的就是結算動畫,每次都要等
跑完,其中我好幾次都是玩越睏,基本上屬性相剋是非常的簡單的,所以每次流程都是
放招->弱點->換人->放招->弱點->loop->總攻擊
然後你差不多就能通關了,再來就打打棒球,找人說說話,買買東西。
優點還是有的,遊戲裡的動畫我非常喜歡,標準的日風動漫,音樂業非常的有潮感,
雖然我破完一次就賣了,音樂到現在我偶爾還會開來聽,美中不足的是,我舉MGSV好了,
兩著的動畫雖然風格迥異,但是MGSV不會有看完動畫後進入遊戲會有兩種不同世界的感覺
,p5在這方面還是有差距,動畫音樂真的很棒,一切換到遊戲中就有被拉回現實的不舒服
感覺,畢竟是遊戲製作技術的問題,我覺得是不會到扣分,只是看著動畫都會想著如果遊
戲中也是這樣該有多好。
總歸來說,以一個從沒接觸過jrpg的散客來講,我實在有點被這極高的評論與分數嚇
到,若你喜歡單純校園生活風格,不需要做太多功課,也不需要太動腦的遊戲,那這片是
不錯的。
剩下還是想入手看看的玩家,我認真建議先去做足功課,如果沒有真的「很喜歡」的
感覺,入手前真的需要三思。
--
以下是我破完一輪之後的想法體驗
大致上是不推的
如果我有任何誤會的地方 歡迎大家討論
————————-微雷———————————-
首先是劇情,定位在高中生的冒險俠盜本身沒什麼問題,但劇情真的頗讓人無感,為
什麼呢?
這劇情若是擺在10年前或更早網路比較不發達的年代,我並不會感覺什麼,但怪就怪在現
在的世界其實資訊非常發達了,裡面的學生,老師直到校長,各個都像溫室裡的小花一樣
,非常沒有真的活在學校裡的感覺,甚至裡面的酒吧,你說這是等比較暗的春水堂其實我
都信,唯一比較有真實感的只有最後的魔王。
坦白說,我只有在最後的時候才有一點真實社會的感覺,像是打體育老師,體育老師
的內心世界一整個非常的幼稚,我們退一萬步想,一個「正常」的大人,都想強姦女學生
了,內心的世界怎麼會只是操練學生而已?怎麼會只是把人關起來而已?若是改成類似神
隱少女裡面的湯婆婆的感覺都更有帶入感,那是需要一種完全被掌控,你無法翻生的壓迫
感,在遊戲中我機乎很少感受到這件事情。
再來是人物之間的情感,也是舉其中一位角色,我想說的是龍司,或許我不太懂日本
的流氓是怎麼樣,就算是電視上演的高中生暴走族流氓或是以前的麻辣教師,怎麼看龍司
一開始把他定位成壞學生非常的不合理,怎麼說呢?
人物的口氣、行為、身上裝扮,撇除頭腦的情況下,這像一個被排擠到處打架的壞學
生嗎?後面的機乎每一位人設,我都有類似的想法
「這是可愛動物區嗎?」
其中比較好的人設我認為只有杏跟雙葉,杏的人物就很接近社會上的那種未滿18歲的
小模,基本上沒什麼可以挑。雙葉的人設也很符合邏輯,因為陰影封閉自己,不擅與人交
集,基本上都是很正常發揮的角色。
其他都讓我感受到脫離現實的感覺,好像在看童話故事一樣,從學校、城市到政府層
級,一直都會讓我想到其實現實生活都比這個困難,你們家家酒到底是玩完了沒,說難聽
點,好人做好事正常,啊反派一直都不怎麼壞,要我怎麼有動力去拯救界,能夠看的反派
也只有最後的boss也是我前面說的最接近湯婆婆的角色。
這個問題很嚴重,因為帶入感不佳,中期之後基本上我都不怎麼管什麼談戀愛了,如
果只要送送東西隨便聊個天就能在一起了,那世界上怎麼還這麼多魯蛇,再者你送的也不
是什麼昂貴或是具有意義的東西,逛個街買幾樣禮物送個幾次就在一起,說實在的,要是
定位在國中生我可以接受,拜託,連裡面的醫生都這樣,我實在無法。
最後是遊戲性的部分,剛開始覺得挺新奇的,實在蠻久沒接觸過回合制的遊戲,從教
學收集面具都不錯,招式也都蠻潮的,但隨著遊戲進行,作業趕越來越重,基本上把怪的
屬性記起來,真的是隨便都可以在2-3回合打贏,除了王有挑戰性,其他都是濃濃的作業
,同樣的音樂,同樣的動畫,同樣要跑結算,我最不能接受的就是結算動畫,每次都要等
跑完,其中我好幾次都是玩越睏,基本上屬性相剋是非常的簡單的,所以每次流程都是
放招->弱點->換人->放招->弱點->loop->總攻擊
然後你差不多就能通關了,再來就打打棒球,找人說說話,買買東西。
優點還是有的,遊戲裡的動畫我非常喜歡,標準的日風動漫,音樂業非常的有潮感,
雖然我破完一次就賣了,音樂到現在我偶爾還會開來聽,美中不足的是,我舉MGSV好了,
兩著的動畫雖然風格迥異,但是MGSV不會有看完動畫後進入遊戲會有兩種不同世界的感覺
,p5在這方面還是有差距,動畫音樂真的很棒,一切換到遊戲中就有被拉回現實的不舒服
感覺,畢竟是遊戲製作技術的問題,我覺得是不會到扣分,只是看著動畫都會想著如果遊
戲中也是這樣該有多好。
總歸來說,以一個從沒接觸過jrpg的散客來講,我實在有點被這極高的評論與分數嚇
到,若你喜歡單純校園生活風格,不需要做太多功課,也不需要太動腦的遊戲,那這片是
不錯的。
剩下還是想入手看看的玩家,我認真建議先去做足功課,如果沒有真的「很喜歡」的
感覺,入手前真的需要三思。
--
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