diefish5566 永久水桶一案 - 神魔之塔

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at 2014-04-26T12:25
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作者: peterman167 (由藤毛) 看板: Sub_RolePlay
標題: [改判] diefish5566 永久水桶一案
時間: Sat Apr 26 12:25:06 2014
根據
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1.
先說 diefish5566 跟 qa17b 的部份
這個是成立的,組務看完推文也認為雙方有接近吵架或是人身攻擊之事實
請板主 peterman167 針對雙方於 #1HYQtU-h (ToS) 底下之推文進行板規處置
前來進行重新審議及改判
在#1HYQtU-h (ToS)一文中
當事人推文如下
經板主且小組長於前述引言也已認為有人身攻擊之事實
根據ToS板規
一. 違反以下板規,依情節輕重程度給予警告,或7~28天水桶,
情節重大者文章砍除並斟酌給予退文。精華區留底
a. 引戰文
1. 挑釁、吵架、人身攻擊、刻意引發筆戰、鬧板(刻意討噓等)
註:此條板規除鬧板外為僅接受當事人檢舉,群嘲部份,單篇文章為五人檢舉即受理
檢舉人請簡述理由以便板工參酌,情節重大者版主得以介入處理。
五人檢舉期限為從文章發出後的48小時內累積滿5人。
2. 各種針對特定族群攻擊之文章、推噓文、簽名檔,包含但不限於
宗教、學校、地域、種族、職業、性別、政治傾向(政治人物)等…
暗示、影射、同音異字,如客觀上得確定所指涉之對象或範圍者亦同。
應水桶28天
但在同樣引用文章中
2.
惡意檢舉的部份,群組長指示說不能這樣判
檢舉是板友的權力,不能因為檢舉理由空洞造成版務困擾的原因來否決
因此
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解除diefish5566 永久水桶之處分
diefish5566 水桶28天,但由於情節嚴重,若有再犯將永久水桶處理之。
但根據引文
4.
本案延宕多日,若最後判決刑度小於已經處分天數
則由下次違規時抵扣,若不足則請僅補上不足天數即可
因此28天全數抵免,且不再進行額外抵免
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作者: peterman167 (由藤毛) 看板: Sub_RolePlay
標題: [改判] diefish5566 永久水桶一案
時間: Sat Apr 26 12:25:06 2014
根據
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中
1.
先說 diefish5566 跟 qa17b 的部份
這個是成立的,組務看完推文也認為雙方有接近吵架或是人身攻擊之事實
請板主 peterman167 針對雙方於 #1HYQtU-h (ToS) 底下之推文進行板規處置
前來進行重新審議及改判
在#1HYQtU-h (ToS)一文中
當事人推文如下
推 peterman167:我不方便自己審自己 別再寄信來啦 12/17 18:08
推 qa17b:死魚崩潰喔? 毛板主哪裡有散佈尋找外掛的方法 麻煩明示一下? 12/17 19:01
噓 diefish5566:我建議你好好地再看一次那篇 12/17 19:04
推 qa17b:我實在看不出來阿 所以請你明白指出來? 12/17 19:06
→ diefish5566:推文尋求外掛資訊 12/17 19:09
推 qa17b:真可憐耶 我是問你毛板主哪句話違規 這也能牽托 頗呵 12/17 19:09
→ qa17b:你是有被害妄想症喔? 這樣亂檢舉很爽嗎 12/17 19:10
→ diefish5566:要我明示 不就是要說出找外掛的方法嗎 12/17 19:10
→ diefish5566:如果這不是尋求外掛資訊那什麼才是尋求外掛資訊 12/17 19:11
推 qa17b:金摳連 呵呵 12/17 19:13
→ qa17b:要尋求外掛資訊還要來這裡問人 你已為我跟你一樣聰明嗎? 12/17 19:15
→ qa17b:我終於見識到真正的崩潰了 呵呵 加油 12/17 19:16
→ diefish5566:請依規定四倍水桶之 12/17 19:17
噓 dave9898:diefish5566有事嗎?你看一下更改時間跟發文時間 12/21 23:30
→ dave9898:如果你只是為檢舉而檢舉,建議你不要看板,你會很累 12/21 23:31
→ a3225737:反正他們就是申訴免錢 申訴成功算賺到阿 12/21 23:54
→ justsay:有些就是專門遊走各板鬥板主的 看開點 12/22 00:01
→ diefish5566:我覺得被扣了好多頂帽子 12/22 01:20
推 qa17b:跳針王臉皮還真厚 敢炮不敢承認 頗呵 12/22 01:32
推 qa17b:板主真可憐 每天都要收到ㄧ些無理取鬧的檢舉信 光處理申訴就 12/22 01:35
→ qa17b:飽了 12/22 01:35
→ diefish5566:我炮誰了?又哪裡不敢承認了 拿出證據好嗎? 12/22 01:36
→ diefish5566:好啦 乖 檢舉你就是無理取鬧 我懂12/22 01:37
推 qa17b:唉唷 這麼快就對號入座了哦 這不就最喜歡炮板主的跳針王麻 12/22 01:39
推 qa17b:對啦 不接受你的檢舉就向上申訴啦 被打槍還怪小組長包庇 呵 12/22 01:41
推 qa17b:內心還真脆弱 酸個兩句就說別人語言暴力 有沒有這麼容易受 12/22 01:42
→ qa17b:傷阿? 12/22 01:43
推 qa17b:不知道我這樣算不算語言暴力害你受到心靈創傷? 12/22 01:45
→ diefish5566:屢勸不聽多次挑釁 12/22 02:40
推 qa17b:檢舉 diefish5566 多次無意義推文 挑釁 引戰 鬧板 造謠 12/22 02:55
推 qa17b:明知故犯 屢次惡意重大違規 應加重刑責 12/22 02:57
→ rehtie:diefish5566刻意引發筆戰 鬧板 針對版主攻擊 12/22 03:09
→ aydybuv:死魚56口氣很差噢? 我倒覺得有些人看到他就好兇 12/22 13:41
→ aydybuv:錯誤檢舉板主不理就好了 其他人也想當版主幫審? 12/22 13:43
→ rehtie:樓上也好兇喔 當個版主還要受這種人的鳥氣 聲援一下不行嗎 12/22 13:45
噓 diefish5566:都改版了還放在置底不修文 不是造謠什麼才是 12/22 14:02
→ a3225737:你要不要先查造謠的意思是什麼 12/22 14:08
噓 diefish5566:官方都從20萬改成2萬了 繼續置底錯誤資訊 12/22 14:12
→ a3225737:那叫錯誤資訊 過時阿 跟造謠差這麼多 == 12/22 14:12
→ diefish5566:置底過時資訊小組長說不是造謠 那我改檢舉討噓好了 12/22 14:15
→ rehtie:置底早就取消了還在置底造謠什麼 如果這算造謠樓上也造謠 12/22 14:17
噓 diefish5566:對不起耶 檢舉時間在撤置底前 12/22 14:18
推 a3225737:板主發黑特區被檢舉討噓 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 12/22 14:20
→ rehtie:所以你現在在繼續吵 不是造謠也是鬧板 12/22 14:21
→ diefish5566:板規規定只是討噓的文就是不行 不管是板主還是任何人 12/22 14:25
→ aydybuv:再兇也沒有你們兇唷... 我只是說公道話 12/22 14:25
→ rehtie:好公道喔呵呵 原來隨便亂檢舉也可以護航 12/22 14:26
→ aydybuv:你有看懂嗎... 12/22 14:26
→ aydybuv:我不是護航他亂檢舉 你們的口氣就是對人不對事 12/22 14:28
→ rehtie:那你有沒有看懂這人在檢舉什麼東西? 12/22 14:28
→ aydybuv:那是板主該去看的12/22 14:28
噓 diefish5566:r板主你好 想必您是未來人預知自己已經選上 先行職權 12/22 14:29
→ rehtie:SO?那你自己不看清楚 不就是來亂戰的? 12/22 14:29
→ rehtie:沒搞清楚狀況不要把自己也牽連進去 OK? 12/22 14:30
→ diefish5566:a小組長又要說板主發黑特區引大家噓是立意良善不罰嗎? 12/22 14:31
→ rehtie:沒當版主先審的 好像不是只有我一個喔 謝謝指教 12/22 14:32
→ aydybuv:我正常檢舉阿= = 12/22 14:40
推 foxy0703:死魚再去檢舉lol置底討噓 看是誰亂版^_< 12/22 15:57
→ gilerby:人家都有專有U2影片惹 是個有名的大大 :) 12/22 16:01
→ diefish5566:發明時光機的未來人f大應該早就知道結果了 你直接講吧 12/22 16:15
推 foxy0703:不用一直扣帽子 我可擔待不起啊 12/22 16:28
→ foxy0703:明顯可預期的東西跟預知是不一樣的^_< 12/22 16:29
推 peterman167:板規明明就是指鬧板(刻意討噓等)XD 12/22 17:16
噓 diefish5566:特別發一篇公告還不夠刻意? 12/22 17:33
噓 qa17b:檢舉板主發黑特文還蠻屌的 呵呵 12/22 19:55
噓 diefish5566:板主到底要不要處理我檢舉的外掛資訊 12/23 21:00
→ ianencored:拜託拜託 公會文請永桶 拜託拜託12/23 21:51
→ s91812:jordan01405的有處理拉 12/23 22:00
→ rehtie:版主到底要不要處理我檢舉的diefish5566鬧版 12/23 22:50
→ ianencored:版主分身乏術 12/23 22:52
→ gilerby:阿都跨過板主去上層甚至更上層檢舉板主了,還要求板主... 12/23 23:13
→ qa17b:都已經到群組長了 我看板主也無能為力 呵呵 12/23 23:14
→ gilerby:更正,是對判決有疑慮而上訴,連小組長都順便上訴 12/23 23:14
→ diefish5566:不同的事件好嗎 檢舉的是今天新鮮的外掛資訊 12/23 23:15
→ gilerby:疑 12/23是今天沒錯吧? 12/23 23:16
推 qa17b:跳梁小丑 呵呵 12/23 23:19
→ diefish5566:沒看過那麼精準的自介 12/23 23:31
推 qa17b:沒看過有人這麼喜歡對號入座 12/23 23:33
→ gilerby:別認真阿 太認真就輸了~ 12/23 23:33
→ diefish5566:12/23是今天啊 我信寄過去了板主裝死 唉 12/23 23:34
→ diefish5566:喊人對號入座這招我國小很愛用 有點懷念 12/23 23:35
→ qa17b:都還沒畢業懷念啥 多唸點書啦 孩子 12/23 23:39
→ diefish5566:何必以國小之心度他人之腹呢 不要自我中心囉 乖 12/23 23:46
→ qa17b:原來這句成語是這樣用的阿 受教了 >.^ 12/23 23:48
→ qa17b:咚吱咚吱咚吱咚吱跳針跳針跳針 12/23 23:48
→ diefish5566:為什麼要抄襲鹿女的話呢?是因為你想不到其他東西嗎? 12/23 23:59
→ qa17b:? 12/24 00:00
噓 dave9898:這裡是檢舉區不是閒聊區,你們可以互丟水球12/24 00:01
→ caca5566:然後一起過聖誕節 12/24 00:01
→ professorK:第一次有點數 12/24 01:14
推 foxy0703:純粹想鬧而引戰的嘴臉真噁心,什麼都可硬凹 12/24 11:20
推 foxy0703:原來第一學府的法學素養這麼厲害 失敬失敬 12/24 11:22
噓 kevinjkckung:可以禁止老公公困難心得嗎? 12/24 16:28
→ kevinjkckung:困難只難在三色很難看懂 其他根本不難 一堆重複心得 12/24 16:29
→ kevinjkckung:洗板 12/24 16:29
→ diefish5566:我覺得罪刑法定原則都不知道 就別提什麼法學素養了 12/24 17:35
噓 dave9898:罪刑法定原則是刑法適用,板規是刑法嗎 12/24 17:58
→ diefish5566:你的意思是板規試用 要桶你就桶你我板主我最大原則 嗎 12/24 18:07
→ diefish5566: 適 12/24 18:07
噓 dave9898:板規沒有特別適用甚麼原則,上面這是你自己認為的 12/24 18:59
→ dave9898:從這就能看出你的想法已經往這方向決定了,不用多說啥 12/24 19:00
推 qa17b:原來你懂罪刑法定原則哦 那你罷免小組長的依據? 12/24 20:30
噓 diefish5566:你哪裡看到我開罷免連署罷免小組長的? 12/24 20:42
→ diefish5566:薛香川父親節去吃飯犯了什麼法?沒犯法 他還是該下台 12/24 20:42
→ diefish5566:我說他不適任 可沒叫組長依據什麼規定弄他下去 12/24 20:44
推 qa17b:跳針王又要開大招了 呵呵 12/24 20:48
→ diefish5566:到底是誰在跳針 不適任就是不適任 一直扯違法與否 lol 12/24 21:02
→ dave9898:你覺得不適任是你的事情,他不用因為極少數人覺得不適任12/24 21:22
→ dave9898:就下台 12/24 21:22
→ dave9898:你看多少人覺得現在的某些官不適任,他們還不是好好的 12/24 21:23
→ dave9898:更何況小組長在處理板務上沒有比那些官處理政務還差 12/24 21:23
→ dave9898:順帶提,他們肯站出來做這種無償活,就已經比你我都好了 12/24 21:25
→ dave9898:如果你對板務處理有很多的意見,自己去報名是最好的解法 12/24 21:26
推 qa17b:適不適任你說的算? 群組長都作出裁決了 你中文看不懂? 還是 12/24 21:27
噓 caca5566:可以報名洨天使 12/24 21:27
→ qa17b:你要直接找站長申訴 上至群組長 下至板主全不都立場偏頗迫害 12/24 21:27
→ qa17b:你的權利? 你到底懂不懂尊重公權力阿 判決對你不利就上訴 然 12/24 21:27
→ qa17b:後找縫隙攻擊執法者 原來這就是你們慣用的招數哦 受教了 12/24 21:28
→ diefish5566:判決不利本來就該上訴 我在行使我的權利 12/24 21:32
→ diefish5566:組長沒有對那句話發表意見 謝謝 12/24 21:34
→ diefish5566:→ a3225737:反正他們就是申訴免錢 申訴成功算賺到阿 12/24 21:34
推 qa17b:玩弄法條規則的高手大有人在 像你們這種學了點皮毛就想出來 12/24 21:34
→ qa17b:賣弄 洗洗睡啦 12/24 21:35
→ diefish5566:如果一個法官還沒開庭就覺得原告是來亂的 12/24 21:35
→ dave9898:不利卻沒有不當,你只是在濫用你的權利 12/24 21:35
→ diefish5566:一切合乎站規 我行使我的權利上訴 12/24 21:37
→ diefish5566:那個法官絕對不能公正判案 12/24 21:37
→ dave9898:浪費醫療資源成天去領藥的也合乎法規啊,但那就是濫用 12/24 21:37
→ diefish5566:我覺得不當我就可以上訴 你覺得沒有不當是你的事 12/24 21:38
→ diefish5566:上訴制度本來就是保護申訴這方12/24 21:39
→ dave9898:對啊不管你是不是在濫用權利都會保護你,真好呢 12/24 21:40
→ diefish5566:你覺得濫用就是濫用吧XDDDD 我正當行使屬於我的權利 12/24 21:42
推 qa17b:群主長都已經裁決p板主的申訴了你還想怎樣? 推翻裙組長? 12/24 21:43
→ dave9898:你覺得正當就去。我對這社會被某些人浪費的資源感到惋惜 12/24 21:44
→ qa17b:不高興你可以聯署罷免小組長和板主阿 12/24 21:45
→ dave9898:真的有想法,罷免完最好自己上去實施自己的想法,超棒的 12/24 21:45
→ qa17b:不適任的官員只有自動請辭 違法才能依法命令解職 你到底懂 12/24 21:47
→ diefish5566:我才想問你懂不懂...我一直舉薛香川當例子 12/24 21:48
→ diefish5566:薛香川自知失言知所進退 反觀某小組長 12/24 21:48
→ diefish5566:說出那種話還怪別人戰他XDDDD 12/24 21:49
→ qa17b:你要先把薛香川下臺的方式弄清楚再來說嘴好嗎? 12/24 21:49
→ diefish5566:他知所進退自動請辭啊 如果一個人知道自己錯了就會辭 12/24 21:50
→ diefish5566:很遺憾的 有些人就是因為有人幫腔 不覺得自己錯 12/24 21:50
→ dave9898:(有些人不用別人幫腔,就已經不會覺得自己錯了) 12/24 21:51
→ diefish5566:→ a3225737:反正他們就是申訴免錢 申訴成功算賺到阿 12/24 21:52
→ diefish5566:複習一下 執法者說出這種話 還能認為正確的...XDDDDDD 12/24 21:52
→ qa17b:就算小組長失言你又能拿他怎樣? 薛香川有受到輿論壓力 a組 12/24 21:52
→ qa17b:長有? 12/24 21:53
→ diefish5566:姑息是不好的 沒輿論壓力有人護航 同種行為不同命 12/24 21:54
推 qa17b:你高興酸他罵他你家的事 不然你聯署罷免他麻 不然就少在這 12/24 21:57
→ qa17b:做那些無謂的批評 沒有實際效益好嗎? 12/24 21:58
推 foxy0703:就只是為亂而亂 lol版鬧不下去 換地方了*′艸`*12/24 21:59
→ diefish5566:扣帽子未來人來囉 板主還沒選出來就預言鹿女選上會亂 12/24 22:00
→ diefish5566:實際效益喔 你在這篇謾罵挑釁我的時候有想過這東西? 12/24 22:01
推 qa17b:是你挑釁還是我挑釁你自己很清楚啦 不用這樣硬凹啦 12/24 22:03
→ diefish5566:XDDDDD對我講第一句話就是攻擊我崩潰 現在還敢講這個? 12/24 22:03
→ diefish5566:你以為大家不會按page up? 12/24 22:04
→ diefish5566:然後接下來明嘲暗諷樣樣來 現在想裝無辜就是囉 12/24 22:04
推 qa17b:算了 懶得看你在這裡跳針亂入 你加油點啦 呵呵 12/24 22:05
推 foxy0703:看看我們偉大的總統 走回頭路被罵得多慘 所以才說可預期 12/24 22:10
→ foxy0703:跟預知未來是不一樣的 法官怎麼判的 說出來就是法官違法 12/24 22:10
→ foxy0703:受教了 12/24 22:11
→ diefish5566:又跳針違法 逼我和你們一起跳 我舉薛香川舉幾次了? 12/24 22:11
→ diefish5566:叭叭 他沒違法所以他沒有錯 (破音) 12/24 22:12
推 foxy0703:平行線 無解 慢慢用自己不知道是裝傻還是真轉不過來的思 12/24 22:14
→ foxy0703:考過生活吧( ′-`)y-~ 12/24 22:15
推 qa17b:檢舉 diefish556 a.一 挑釁 吵架 意圖引發筆戰 鬧板 明知故 12/24 22:21
→ qa17b:犯 應加重其刑 12/24 22:22
→ diefish5566:作賊喊抓賊囉 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 12/24 22:25
→ qa17b:檢舉 diefish5566 挑釁 謾罵 人身攻擊 經勸導仍不改善 12/24 22:29
→ diefish5566:板主雙重標準 幫k大討公道而已 12/26 21:55
推 foxy0703:原來人名跟外掛一樣也要吵 那如果有外掛叫死魚 你是不是 12/26 21:59
→ foxy0703:就可以自動消失嗎( ′-`)y-~ 12/26 21:59
→ diefish5566:mancyid (免洗id) ←人名完全不同 12/26 22:01
噓 diefish5566:你在說一堆花叫花海 一堆門明明就門之海 提關卡名被當 12/26 22:03
→ diefish5566:外掛 你評評理嘛 12/26 22:03
推 foxy0703:去a他文章看大家怎叫的 而且沒跟版主檢舉就直接上版務嗎 12/26 22:04
→ foxy0703:(攤) 12/26 22:04
→ diefish5566:有檢舉喔 三天沒回 12/26 22:04
→ diefish5566:我建議你開口之前好好看清楚 XDDDDD 12/26 22:04
→ diefish5566:還有那裏是組務板 哪裡有版務板? 12/26 22:05
經板主且小組長於前述引言也已認為有人身攻擊之事實
根據ToS板規
一. 違反以下板規,依情節輕重程度給予警告,或7~28天水桶,
情節重大者文章砍除並斟酌給予退文。精華區留底
a. 引戰文
1. 挑釁、吵架、人身攻擊、刻意引發筆戰、鬧板(刻意討噓等)
註:此條板規除鬧板外為僅接受當事人檢舉,群嘲部份,單篇文章為五人檢舉即受理
檢舉人請簡述理由以便板工參酌,情節重大者版主得以介入處理。
五人檢舉期限為從文章發出後的48小時內累積滿5人。
2. 各種針對特定族群攻擊之文章、推噓文、簽名檔,包含但不限於
宗教、學校、地域、種族、職業、性別、政治傾向(政治人物)等…
暗示、影射、同音異字,如客觀上得確定所指涉之對象或範圍者亦同。
應水桶28天
但在同樣引用文章中
2.
惡意檢舉的部份,群組長指示說不能這樣判
檢舉是板友的權力,不能因為檢舉理由空洞造成版務困擾的原因來否決
因此
│ 文章代碼(AID): #1I-miE2W (ToS) [ptt.cc] [公告] diefish5566 相關爭議案判? │
│ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/ToS/M.1392184078.A.0A0.html │
解除diefish5566 永久水桶之處分
diefish5566 水桶28天,但由於情節嚴重,若有再犯將永久水桶處理之。
但根據引文
4.
本案延宕多日,若最後判決刑度小於已經處分天數
則由下次違規時抵扣,若不足則請僅補上不足天數即可
因此28天全數抵免,且不再進行額外抵免
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