頂級AI VS 頂級AI+人 誰的勝算大? - 圍棋

By Liam
at 2020-11-28T08:21
at 2020-11-28T08:21
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※ 引述《Borges (波波波波)》之銘言:
: 最近在想一個問題
: 因為圍棋和棋很難,所以即便是頂級AI自己打自己
: 也會分出最後勝負
: 黑:白的勝率大概是45:55
: 但如果 是頂級AI打頂級AI+人的話呢?
目前 AI+人 是有機會表現比 純AI 好,但這是機率問題,而且機會很小。
人類偶然的「神之一手」,是有機會出現的。
但大多數落子目前都是 AI 的較好。人類要介入的機會只有電腦「漏算」的時候。
因為在時間和計算力的壓力下,目前 AI 只能給有限資源下的答案。
電腦靠著無數次的「學習」,去得出擬合函數,跟人類靠訓練得到的「直覺」不太一樣。
人類能歸納出「邏輯/口訣/分析方法」,避免不必要的計算、限縮範圍,但電腦不行。
不過神之一手不是每個頂尖棋士都能做到,往往要花時間去想不太可能的地方。
目前賽制若是「AI 提供選點給選手做出選擇」,那我覺得人類的加入是扣分的。
但賽制改為「AI 優先計算人類給的直覺來選點」,那人類的參與應該是有機會加分的,
往往人類下出「神之一手」後,AI 都能很快得到勝率「上升」的結果。
很明顯就是電腦沒有計算,或是花很少資源計算那神之一手的選點。
職業高手利用直覺先縮限最有可能的幾個落子點,讓 AI 先花一點時間計算,
然後 AI 再試著找出 AI 自行發現的選點,看能否有較好的結果。由 AI 決定落子。
這種組合可能是勝率最高的。
目前電腦計算力無法算清所有的變化,因此必然會有漏算的機會。
但等到量子電腦出來,也許就有可能算清所有變化。那麼人類就沒有機會了。
以上是我的看法
--
: 最近在想一個問題
: 因為圍棋和棋很難,所以即便是頂級AI自己打自己
: 也會分出最後勝負
: 黑:白的勝率大概是45:55
: 但如果 是頂級AI打頂級AI+人的話呢?
目前 AI+人 是有機會表現比 純AI 好,但這是機率問題,而且機會很小。
人類偶然的「神之一手」,是有機會出現的。
但大多數落子目前都是 AI 的較好。人類要介入的機會只有電腦「漏算」的時候。
因為在時間和計算力的壓力下,目前 AI 只能給有限資源下的答案。
電腦靠著無數次的「學習」,去得出擬合函數,跟人類靠訓練得到的「直覺」不太一樣。
人類能歸納出「邏輯/口訣/分析方法」,避免不必要的計算、限縮範圍,但電腦不行。
不過神之一手不是每個頂尖棋士都能做到,往往要花時間去想不太可能的地方。
目前賽制若是「AI 提供選點給選手做出選擇」,那我覺得人類的加入是扣分的。
但賽制改為「AI 優先計算人類給的直覺來選點」,那人類的參與應該是有機會加分的,
往往人類下出「神之一手」後,AI 都能很快得到勝率「上升」的結果。
很明顯就是電腦沒有計算,或是花很少資源計算那神之一手的選點。
職業高手利用直覺先縮限最有可能的幾個落子點,讓 AI 先花一點時間計算,
然後 AI 再試著找出 AI 自行發現的選點,看能否有較好的結果。由 AI 決定落子。
這種組合可能是勝率最高的。
目前電腦計算力無法算清所有的變化,因此必然會有漏算的機會。
但等到量子電腦出來,也許就有可能算清所有變化。那麼人類就沒有機會了。
以上是我的看法
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