關於看不見稀有怪的機制 - PokemonGO

By Aaliyah
at 2017-05-23T21:13
at 2017-05-23T21:13
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※ 引述《ymx3xc (U文多多)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《jacky86116 (skynight)》之銘言:
: : https://goo.gl/eEcgU4
: : 大家覺得這機制如何??
: : 我覺得不錯,最少有制止到國外的飛人跟賣號網站.
: 這波很明顯是針對第三方程式來的
: 例如像RO外掛那種BOT程式,掛1~2星期40級帳號那種
: 還有狙擊指定怪(但這種方式在上次N社偵測機制就失效了)
: 然後有人討論登入看IV會不會被鎖
: 會不會有動作 或許N社會視嚴重性決定
: 但會不會被標記使用過第三方程式登入紀錄?
: 我只能說是100%且N社很簡單就能註記出來
: 反倒是在手機上玩 用FAKEGPS低調使用的
: 反而不容易出事...
: 所以我是覺得啦 敢用第三方程式登入的
: 管你是用來幹嘛(ex:單純查IV)
: 自己就要有心理準備 已被N社列入觀察名單
: 還是那句 會擔心的話 那就不要用第三方登入查IV了
個人是覺得這次這個新機制
應該是不會跟 "系統紀錄你使用過那些第三方程式登入遊戲"
有太大關係,理由很簡單,這東西打從去年這時
遊戲剛在歐美地區發行一個月後就有在記錄了
要用這來當作鎖人依據,說真的不會拖到這時候才做。
而且會登入帳號的第三方程式,也是有像iv go或是一些helper之類的無害程式
說真的,以是否有第三方代登做判斷,缺點很多
太容易誤鎖,就是不可行所以一直才沒這麼做...
反而這比較像是靠過去蒐集的資料,作行為模式判讀
(上面那篇原文有提到,一些開發團隊只知道被屏蔽帳號,
是根據過去3-6個月資料去弄的
這就有點像是靠蒐集每個帳號長時間的遊玩數據,
再靠系統用行為模式比對,去跟測試員的真人遊玩數據作比對
去抓出不合理的地方,進而判斷該帳號是否是活人還是機器人
舉例來說像是 位置/抓怪/轉牌的歷程記錄
比方說
每次開遊戲都剛好在稀有怪生成點附近
該帳號一直不斷連續捕捉同種稀有怪數十次
不特定單一種稀有怪,但短時間連續捕捉稀有怪,且各個捕捉點距離太遠
反正就是類似這樣
在海量的遊玩數據中,只要你的遊玩資料被抓到幾個
"真人遊玩不應該有此特徵" 的古怪點,你就會被rare blind
所以跟是否用什麼第三方程式,那些程式是否有登入,
在原理上是毫無相關的兩件事。
所以那些說什麼查個iv也被誤鎖的
基本上聽聽就好,絕大多數都是在帶風向 ㄏㄏ
(要知道最初iv公式,也只是重度玩家單純用蒐集寵和作強化cp比對的方式
進一步蒐集資料後跑統計程式去歸納出來的,根本就沒有涉及竊取任何資料...)
--
: ※ 引述《jacky86116 (skynight)》之銘言:
: : https://goo.gl/eEcgU4
: : 大家覺得這機制如何??
: : 我覺得不錯,最少有制止到國外的飛人跟賣號網站.
: 這波很明顯是針對第三方程式來的
: 例如像RO外掛那種BOT程式,掛1~2星期40級帳號那種
: 還有狙擊指定怪(但這種方式在上次N社偵測機制就失效了)
: 然後有人討論登入看IV會不會被鎖
: 會不會有動作 或許N社會視嚴重性決定
: 但會不會被標記使用過第三方程式登入紀錄?
: 我只能說是100%且N社很簡單就能註記出來
: 反倒是在手機上玩 用FAKEGPS低調使用的
: 反而不容易出事...
: 所以我是覺得啦 敢用第三方程式登入的
: 管你是用來幹嘛(ex:單純查IV)
: 自己就要有心理準備 已被N社列入觀察名單
: 還是那句 會擔心的話 那就不要用第三方登入查IV了
個人是覺得這次這個新機制
應該是不會跟 "系統紀錄你使用過那些第三方程式登入遊戲"
有太大關係,理由很簡單,這東西打從去年這時
遊戲剛在歐美地區發行一個月後就有在記錄了
要用這來當作鎖人依據,說真的不會拖到這時候才做。
而且會登入帳號的第三方程式,也是有像iv go或是一些helper之類的無害程式
說真的,以是否有第三方代登做判斷,缺點很多
太容易誤鎖,就是不可行所以一直才沒這麼做...
反而這比較像是靠過去蒐集的資料,作行為模式判讀
(上面那篇原文有提到,一些開發團隊只知道被屏蔽帳號,
是根據過去3-6個月資料去弄的
這就有點像是靠蒐集每個帳號長時間的遊玩數據,
再靠系統用行為模式比對,去跟測試員的真人遊玩數據作比對
去抓出不合理的地方,進而判斷該帳號是否是活人還是機器人
舉例來說像是 位置/抓怪/轉牌的歷程記錄
比方說
每次開遊戲都剛好在稀有怪生成點附近
該帳號一直不斷連續捕捉同種稀有怪數十次
不特定單一種稀有怪,但短時間連續捕捉稀有怪,且各個捕捉點距離太遠
反正就是類似這樣
在海量的遊玩數據中,只要你的遊玩資料被抓到幾個
"真人遊玩不應該有此特徵" 的古怪點,你就會被rare blind
所以跟是否用什麼第三方程式,那些程式是否有登入,
在原理上是毫無相關的兩件事。
所以那些說什麼查個iv也被誤鎖的
基本上聽聽就好,絕大多數都是在帶風向 ㄏㄏ
(要知道最初iv公式,也只是重度玩家單純用蒐集寵和作強化cp比對的方式
進一步蒐集資料後跑統計程式去歸納出來的,根本就沒有涉及竊取任何資料...)
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