邪鬼獵人進場離場combo問題 - 魔法風雲會

Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2012-01-10T20:17

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小弟用了關鍵字"進場"爬文過,找不到類似的文章,想請問各位高手。

有朋友說邪鬼獵人的一個COMBO我聽得不是很懂:
http://magiccards.info/isd/tw/15.html
http://magiccards.info/m12/en/91.html

邪鬼獵人進場時,在解進場效應之前,用Devouring Swarm將之犧牲。此時堆
疊會先解離場,被移除的生物回來,但是因為進場效應還沒解,所以沒事發生。
再來解進場效應,所以目標生物會被永久移除遊戲。

但是我查規則書上面敘述:
這是規則書:http://www.wizards.com/magic/comprules/MagicCompRules_20110930.pdf

603.6. Trigger events that involve objects changing zones are called ─
zone-change triggers.∥ Many
abilities with zone-change triggers attempt to do something to that object
after it changes zones. During resolution, these abilities look for the
object in the zone that it moved to. If the object is
unable to be found in the zone it went to, the part of the ability attempting
to do something to the
object will fail to do anything. The ability could be unable to find the
object because the object
never entered the specified zone, because it left the zone before the ability
resolved, or because it is
in a zone that is hidden from a player, such as a library or an opponent‘s
hand. (This rule applies
even if the object leaves the zone and returns again before the ability
resolves.) The most common
zone-change triggers are enters-the-battlefield triggers and
leaves-the-battlefield triggers.

看起來是在結算進場效應時,因為邪鬼獵人已經離場,因此進場效應並不會觸發,所以此
COMBO不成立。請問哪個才是對的?

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All Comments

Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2012-01-13T20:03
感覺我引用錯規則...但是我找不到相關規則Orz...
Leila avatar
By Leila
at 2012-01-18T01:13
我有找到規則603.7a,看起來好像跟我的問題有關係
請問有大大願意指點迷津嗎? 謝謝! =)
Vanessa avatar
By Vanessa
at 2012-01-21T03:03
獵人進場->進場效應堆疊 這時回應犧牲獵人..堆疊是後發先至
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2012-01-21T07:46
所以是 獵人被犧牲->進場效應發出.被進場效應壓掉的目標
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2012-01-25T04:16
這時因為獵人不再場,沒有回來的那段 目標就bye bye了..
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2012-01-28T02:05
請參考我的舊文#1ArPcPoD
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2012-01-30T14:32
同時有進場/離場效應的永久物.可以在進場效應觸發時.用方法
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2012-02-04T00:43
多謝兩位,超清楚! =D
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2012-02-07T16:56
先觸發離場效應..結果以邪鬼獵人而言就可以放逐一隻生物..
而且不會回來了
最早討論這個規則的是巨大幻象進場補20離場扣20的時候..
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2012-02-09T17:35
如果沒弄好.進場補20還沒補到一張消除魔障先讓你扣20..
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2012-02-13T15:35
翻譯成莊嚴幻象或許會更好不過當時沒中文版死冥捐贈套牌
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2012-02-14T15:05
卡訊有介紹 渡潮窟船夫~XDDDD

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