這版還有哪些卡做壞了 - 線上

By Damian
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at 2017-08-02T12:02
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雖然有點看不懂原PO再說什麼
不過想藉這標題,趁機來聊一聊關於這個遊戲的事情
嘛~內容大概是大家都知道的事情
只是寫來給一些還無法理解這遊戲環境的玩家看而已
文中帶有大量離題
首先,這遊戲的哪些卡片是做壞的?
以爐石的視角來看,很多,一狗票的卡都是做壞的。
那如果以SV的視角來看呢?有哪些是做壞的卡片?
從上次NERF後
我個人心中目前的做壞卡只有一張(扣薪水YO~
你可能會想問天盾呢?星爆呢?等等……諸如此類的疑問
的確,只論單卡的話,這幾張的確是誇張的強
但是這是必要的強。
因為這遊戲本身就不是讓你戰到最後一兵一卒的遊戲。
以這遊戲的節奏來看,我個人的定義是這樣的。
6PP前能持續鋪場並結束的叫快攻
6PP以後持續鋪場並結束遊戲的叫中速,
關鍵回合前專注於鋪場以外動作的叫控制
原因沒別的,這遊戲的終結卡太多了,要像爐石那樣打到牌乾太難了。
這並不是什麼壞事,畢竟CY當初做這遊戲的目標就是一場十分鐘左右(我沒記錯的話...
比起「我要擋下你所有攻擊」這種防禦式的想法
「我要用OO方法操飛你」這種想法在SV上有利太多了。
這兩種想法差在哪呢?最明顯的比較例子就是「九冥守死靈」跟「熾天教」
縱使兩者都是防禦型牌組,但是九冥守死靈的前提就是建立在「我要擋下你所有攻擊」
而熾天使教則是建立在「讓熾天起飛,贏得這場遊戲」
在大前提不同的情況下,九冥守死靈被稱為報復社會的牌組
但是熾天卻從來沒有人這麼稱呼過。
有點扯遠了,回過頭來講講卡片設計的部分好了。
可能有人有疑問,這遊戲的卡片費用、價值是怎麼算的?
簡單回答的話就是……
1.四費以下可以用單卡效果加總去計算
2.五費~八費體質沒超標還沒特異功能的卡片都是廢物
3.九費以上的卡片無論超不超標,在場上留超過兩回合還贏不了遊戲的都是廢物
(除非該卡能搭配其他卡片讓你能提早打出)
以上……當然那種留在場上能讓你贏GAME,但是不可能留下來的也是廢物(異種r.i.p
而天盾的強,就是建立在不會死的前提上,在有進化點的的情況下還能兩回合結束遊戲
而星爆的強,則是建立在不需要留在場上,有進化點就能刮掉你半條血的能力。
那麼這算做壞嗎?
一個個講,先說天盾。
說到天盾就不得不提超越。
有人說超越是這遊戲的限速器,一點也沒錯,而且還是CY很自豪的限速器。
那麼這限速器的結束回合是多少呢?
大約是T6~T8,再怎麼慢T10基本上都有辦法結束遊戲
那麼……一張T9才能拍,最快T11才能結束的牌會太強?
天盾有無敵,但是主戰者沒有無敵,就算之後主戰者變天盾他還是沒無敵啊
然後有人說卡片遊戲做出無敵的卡就是智障……
我只能說……WHY NOT?
為什麼卡片遊戲就不能有出了不會死的卡?
接著來說說星爆。
九費有進化點打臉十點傷害。
一張盾減五,兩張盾傷害歸零。
……這會太強?
至於為什麼我會覺得ㄇㄐㄐ太強我就不說了,很多人講過了。
以我自己的角度來看,死靈術改4或者直接加一費我就能接受了。
在不濟把體質調成44也好……
至於有人說跟主教打遊戲體驗特別不好……
我只能說沒辦法,這職業就長這樣
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不過想藉這標題,趁機來聊一聊關於這個遊戲的事情
嘛~內容大概是大家都知道的事情
只是寫來給一些還無法理解這遊戲環境的玩家看而已
文中帶有大量離題
首先,這遊戲的哪些卡片是做壞的?
以爐石的視角來看,很多,一狗票的卡都是做壞的。
那如果以SV的視角來看呢?有哪些是做壞的卡片?
從上次NERF後
我個人心中目前的做壞卡只有一張(扣薪水YO~
你可能會想問天盾呢?星爆呢?等等……諸如此類的疑問
的確,只論單卡的話,這幾張的確是誇張的強
但是這是必要的強。
因為這遊戲本身就不是讓你戰到最後一兵一卒的遊戲。
以這遊戲的節奏來看,我個人的定義是這樣的。
6PP前能持續鋪場並結束的叫快攻
6PP以後持續鋪場並結束遊戲的叫中速,
關鍵回合前專注於鋪場以外動作的叫控制
原因沒別的,這遊戲的終結卡太多了,要像爐石那樣打到牌乾太難了。
這並不是什麼壞事,畢竟CY當初做這遊戲的目標就是一場十分鐘左右(我沒記錯的話...
比起「我要擋下你所有攻擊」這種防禦式的想法
「我要用OO方法操飛你」這種想法在SV上有利太多了。
這兩種想法差在哪呢?最明顯的比較例子就是「九冥守死靈」跟「熾天教」
縱使兩者都是防禦型牌組,但是九冥守死靈的前提就是建立在「我要擋下你所有攻擊」
而熾天使教則是建立在「讓熾天起飛,贏得這場遊戲」
在大前提不同的情況下,九冥守死靈被稱為報復社會的牌組
但是熾天卻從來沒有人這麼稱呼過。
有點扯遠了,回過頭來講講卡片設計的部分好了。
可能有人有疑問,這遊戲的卡片費用、價值是怎麼算的?
簡單回答的話就是……
1.四費以下可以用單卡效果加總去計算
2.五費~八費體質沒超標還沒特異功能的卡片都是廢物
3.九費以上的卡片無論超不超標,在場上留超過兩回合還贏不了遊戲的都是廢物
(除非該卡能搭配其他卡片讓你能提早打出)
以上……當然那種留在場上能讓你贏GAME,但是不可能留下來的也是廢物(異種r.i.p
而天盾的強,就是建立在不會死的前提上,在有進化點的的情況下還能兩回合結束遊戲
而星爆的強,則是建立在不需要留在場上,有進化點就能刮掉你半條血的能力。
那麼這算做壞嗎?
一個個講,先說天盾。
說到天盾就不得不提超越。
有人說超越是這遊戲的限速器,一點也沒錯,而且還是CY很自豪的限速器。
那麼這限速器的結束回合是多少呢?
大約是T6~T8,再怎麼慢T10基本上都有辦法結束遊戲
那麼……一張T9才能拍,最快T11才能結束的牌會太強?
天盾有無敵,但是主戰者沒有無敵,就算之後主戰者變天盾他還是沒無敵啊
然後有人說卡片遊戲做出無敵的卡就是智障……
我只能說……WHY NOT?
為什麼卡片遊戲就不能有出了不會死的卡?
接著來說說星爆。
九費有進化點打臉十點傷害。
一張盾減五,兩張盾傷害歸零。
……這會太強?
至於為什麼我會覺得ㄇㄐㄐ太強我就不說了,很多人講過了。
以我自己的角度來看,死靈術改4或者直接加一費我就能接受了。
在不濟把體質調成44也好……
至於有人說跟主教打遊戲體驗特別不好……
我只能說沒辦法,這職業就長這樣
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