近代賽套牌造價 - 魔法風雲會

By Donna
at 2015-06-12T23:17
at 2015-06-12T23:17
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我先講結論:魔風最近印了近代大師2,這其實是卡商的暗中操作...
http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/innistrad/snapcaster-mage
自寶船被禁之後,迅咒法師簡直銳不可擋
從幾週前的50鎂,前幾天上升到73鎂,到現在創下84鎂的新高!!!
迅咒法師:『今年的我,沒有極限』
http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/modern-masters/blood-moon
接著是重印了4次的腥紅之月
最近血月的業績一路長紅,在各式帶紅的正編/備牌中發揮極大的效用
只要在正確的時間點,它就有一擊定勝負的實力
目前最便宜的版本,也具有均價47鎂的戰力
腥紅之月:『我還要再打十個』
以及新‧近代四天王的崛起
http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/dragons-of-tarkir/collected-company
http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/morningtide/heritage-druid
http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/mirrodin/oblivion-stone
http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/mirrodin-besieged/inkmoth-nexus
http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/new-phyrexia/deceiver-exarch
看完這幾張 再加上Liliana of the Veil跟Tarmogoyf
小弟直覺不妙,照現在這價格,能便宜入手的套牌不就只剩純白了嗎?
於是便快速翻閱TCG的資料庫 整理一下目前Modern各套牌的入手門檻
到此,如果對套牌價錢/內容沒興趣的 就可以直接End看結論兼吐槽了
========
以下為套牌清單,照TCG Player英文字母序排列
※為節省筆者的時間,以MO(4-0) & 有進8強的為主,套牌連結隨機挑選
========
Abzan Collected Company
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238533
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238628
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240860
概念類似舊的誕生莢,造價$650~$800
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239817
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1237263
不過也有放塔莫的版本:$1150左右
========
Abzan Midrange
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1236097
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1236098
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1237256
套牌之王(卡價觀點),$1800~2100左右
========
Ad Nauseam Unlife
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240852
$400~500,抽滿手牌後,用一發Lightning Storm直擊對手
========
Affinity
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240861
套牌數量眾多沒看完,$650~800,價差應該是來自於備牌
========
Amulet of Vigor
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1241215
不用變魔術也有一定實力的組合計,$600~650
可以只有53張的套牌
========
Bogles
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1237399
白綠靈氣,聖騎士型的套牌 $450~550
========
Elves(Company)
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239831
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238538
$300~500,沒甚麼研究,套牌總價決定於地牌
(樹林 vs 找地地/遍野林冠/洞窟)
========
Esper
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240847
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238243
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238536
目前較少人打的3色,就是將這3色的強牌放進來做雜燴,有各種型態
========
Gifts Tron
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1236616
$600~700 也有人稱做WU控
最常打法是,用禮物將挖墳&控場生物棄到墳場後再返照
========
Grixis Control
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238632
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1236359
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1236352
$1100~1300,也是3色強牌的概念
========
Grixis Delver
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1237262
$700~1000,熱門套牌之一
每附套牌的生物/咒語配置都不太一樣,可以自己研究看看
========
Jeskai Midrange
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239821
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239822
$1200~1300曾經的主流之一,掘穴重出後就開始下滑?
========
Jund
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238531
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238627
也是卡價王,$1800~2200
據說Pro Tour Player的親信都不會翻到金牙
========
Living End
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239815
$250~400,要是Living End 抽太多就會變成悲劇
========
Merfolk
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1241218
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238629
$350~500,要小心有地窖的對手(Lord of Atlantis...)
另外算獻力時別忘了海域蔓延
========
Monoblue Tron
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240855
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239844
$400~550,湊套速度不快,各種大招/大生物的比例可以自己調整
========
Naya/Domain Zoo
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238546
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239756
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238195
$350~1500用Wild Nacatl等優質小生物打人的快攻,有沒有塔莫的價差很大
========
Burn(RW/Naya/RG等)
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238530
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1237261
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1236181
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240864
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239839
$350~700 簡單易懂,一直打人臉的套牌
========
Pyromancer Ascension
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240843
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238021
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240864
$400~600 複雜的套牌,請小心不要打錯(笑)
========
RG Tron
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1241189
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238541
$750~800 平均3.5回湊套做大招
雖然紅的成分少,Grove of the Burnwillows又很貴
但純綠/藍綠tron的表現相對比較差
========
(Temur)Scapeshift
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238259
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1236275
$750~1000,一邊康一邊找地的套牌
因山脈數量有限,找錯地有時會很麻煩,另外有些人混了禮物
========
Shadow Aggro
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238264
$500~550,自殺流套牌,碰上有燒的套牌可能莫名其妙就會輸掉
========
Soul Sisters
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238274
$250~$500,利用補血做出很多塔莫級別的生物來打人
對欺瞞督教有抗性
========
Splinter Twin(RU/Grixis/Temur)
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240452
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240229
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1241214
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238634
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239714
$600~1400,每附放的咒語都不盡相同
Temur Twin大約$2000
========
Infect
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240857
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1236184
$600~800,比較像是組合技套牌,有2回殺的手順
========
以下結論:雖然近代賽中還有許多套牌,但以上列出的參考應該足夠了
經過這波價格起伏後,目前這賽制的入門價格大約是NT$10K~20K左右
而黑綠底的則上看50~60K
筆者認為:就如同潑出去的水難收回一般 目前的卡價很難再跌回1個月前
頂多是賽季/熱潮後跌個25~50%
對於已經入坑的玩家 那恭喜你 在漲價前就湊齊了套牌
對於絕不會入坑的玩家 那也無妨 卡商給了不用入坑的大義名分
台灣收牌的管道不少 買不到牌絕不是沒法組Modern的藉口
至於目前還在收牌/觀望的玩家 可以評估自己的荷包後
跟其他人討論看看吧
有貼Modern套牌的網站很多 這邊先隨意列2個
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck_search_result.asp?Format=Modern
http://www.starcitygames.com/pages/decklists/
台灣的Card*a**er也不定期會貼一些近代套牌
可以去他們的網站參考看看
--
我先講結論:魔風最近印了近代大師2,這其實是卡商的暗中操作...
http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/innistrad/snapcaster-mage
自寶船被禁之後,迅咒法師簡直銳不可擋
從幾週前的50鎂,前幾天上升到73鎂,到現在創下84鎂的新高!!!
迅咒法師:『今年的我,沒有極限』
http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/modern-masters/blood-moon
接著是重印了4次的腥紅之月
最近血月的業績一路長紅,在各式帶紅的正編/備牌中發揮極大的效用
只要在正確的時間點,它就有一擊定勝負的實力
目前最便宜的版本,也具有均價47鎂的戰力
腥紅之月:『我還要再打十個』
以及新‧近代四天王的崛起
http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/dragons-of-tarkir/collected-company
http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/morningtide/heritage-druid
http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/mirrodin/oblivion-stone
http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/mirrodin-besieged/inkmoth-nexus
http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/new-phyrexia/deceiver-exarch
看完這幾張 再加上Liliana of the Veil跟Tarmogoyf
小弟直覺不妙,照現在這價格,能便宜入手的套牌不就只剩純白了嗎?
於是便快速翻閱TCG的資料庫 整理一下目前Modern各套牌的入手門檻
到此,如果對套牌價錢/內容沒興趣的 就可以直接End看結論兼吐槽了
========
以下為套牌清單,照TCG Player英文字母序排列
※為節省筆者的時間,以MO(4-0) & 有進8強的為主,套牌連結隨機挑選
========
Abzan Collected Company
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238533
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238628
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240860
概念類似舊的誕生莢,造價$650~$800
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239817
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1237263
不過也有放塔莫的版本:$1150左右
========
Abzan Midrange
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1236097
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1236098
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1237256
套牌之王(卡價觀點),$1800~2100左右
========
Ad Nauseam Unlife
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240852
$400~500,抽滿手牌後,用一發Lightning Storm直擊對手
========
Affinity
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240861
套牌數量眾多沒看完,$650~800,價差應該是來自於備牌
========
Amulet of Vigor
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1241215
不用變魔術也有一定實力的組合計,$600~650
可以只有53張的套牌
========
Bogles
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1237399
白綠靈氣,聖騎士型的套牌 $450~550
========
Elves(Company)
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239831
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238538
$300~500,沒甚麼研究,套牌總價決定於地牌
(樹林 vs 找地地/遍野林冠/洞窟)
========
Esper
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240847
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238243
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238536
目前較少人打的3色,就是將這3色的強牌放進來做雜燴,有各種型態
========
Gifts Tron
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1236616
$600~700 也有人稱做WU控
最常打法是,用禮物將挖墳&控場生物棄到墳場後再返照
========
Grixis Control
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238632
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1236359
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1236352
$1100~1300,也是3色強牌的概念
========
Grixis Delver
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1237262
$700~1000,熱門套牌之一
每附套牌的生物/咒語配置都不太一樣,可以自己研究看看
========
Jeskai Midrange
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239821
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239822
$1200~1300曾經的主流之一,掘穴重出後就開始下滑?
========
Jund
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238531
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238627
也是卡價王,$1800~2200
據說Pro Tour Player的親信都不會翻到金牙
========
Living End
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239815
$250~400,要是Living End 抽太多就會變成悲劇
========
Merfolk
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1241218
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238629
$350~500,要小心有地窖的對手(Lord of Atlantis...)
另外算獻力時別忘了海域蔓延
========
Monoblue Tron
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240855
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239844
$400~550,湊套速度不快,各種大招/大生物的比例可以自己調整
========
Naya/Domain Zoo
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238546
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239756
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238195
$350~1500用Wild Nacatl等優質小生物打人的快攻,有沒有塔莫的價差很大
========
Burn(RW/Naya/RG等)
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238530
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1237261
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1236181
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240864
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239839
$350~700 簡單易懂,一直打人臉的套牌
========
Pyromancer Ascension
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240843
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238021
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240864
$400~600 複雜的套牌,請小心不要打錯(笑)
========
RG Tron
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1241189
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238541
$750~800 平均3.5回湊套做大招
雖然紅的成分少,Grove of the Burnwillows又很貴
但純綠/藍綠tron的表現相對比較差
========
(Temur)Scapeshift
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238259
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1236275
$750~1000,一邊康一邊找地的套牌
因山脈數量有限,找錯地有時會很麻煩,另外有些人混了禮物
========
Shadow Aggro
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238264
$500~550,自殺流套牌,碰上有燒的套牌可能莫名其妙就會輸掉
========
Soul Sisters
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238274
$250~$500,利用補血做出很多塔莫級別的生物來打人
對欺瞞督教有抗性
========
Splinter Twin(RU/Grixis/Temur)
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240452
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240229
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1241214
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1238634
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1239714
$600~1400,每附放的咒語都不盡相同
Temur Twin大約$2000
========
Infect
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1240857
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1236184
$600~800,比較像是組合技套牌,有2回殺的手順
========
以下結論:雖然近代賽中還有許多套牌,但以上列出的參考應該足夠了
經過這波價格起伏後,目前這賽制的入門價格大約是NT$10K~20K左右
而黑綠底的則上看50~60K
筆者認為:就如同潑出去的水難收回一般 目前的卡價很難再跌回1個月前
頂多是賽季/熱潮後跌個25~50%
對於已經入坑的玩家 那恭喜你 在漲價前就湊齊了套牌
對於絕不會入坑的玩家 那也無妨 卡商給了不用入坑的大義名分
台灣收牌的管道不少 買不到牌絕不是沒法組Modern的藉口
至於目前還在收牌/觀望的玩家 可以評估自己的荷包後
跟其他人討論看看吧
有貼Modern套牌的網站很多 這邊先隨意列2個
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck_search_result.asp?Format=Modern
http://www.starcitygames.com/pages/decklists/
台灣的Card*a**er也不定期會貼一些近代套牌
可以去他們的網站參考看看
--
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