貼7目半會不會太多了? - 圍棋

By Margaret
at 2016-04-21T00:17
at 2016-04-21T00:17
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※ 引述《einstean (台北捷運世界一流)》之銘言:
: 之前阿法狗的時候就有提到電腦判斷貼7目半是白優。
: 今天的比賽大部分都是白獲勝,日韓也是貼6目半,
: 就只有中國的棋戰貼7目半。
: 各位認為貼7目半會不會太多了?
結論先講:3.75子(俗稱7目半=8點)和6目半可能會成為時代的眼淚吧!
記得前幾年中國流和小一路迷你中國流套路盛行...
貼7.5目太多?那時候好像沒有人在討論這種問題
那時候黑方常常不是中盤勝 就是前100手走完差不多就贏個12~15目
當然還是有很多白棋的勝場 套路達人型選手畢竟沒那麼多
而且你前期走好中後盤也沒法保證不翻盤
大龍被殺或官子失利常常會發生在這類布局強的選手身上(中國特多)
但是那個時候由於白方對於這些高效率的黑棋布局沒有很好的對策
儘管總體來講黑勝率沒高到哪去...
普遍的氛圍是懷疑中國7.5目的貼目是否還會上修?
或者是在討論韓國6.5目是否貼得太少?是否要跟進7.5?
當然貼子和貼目的意義略有不同...我主要是要講那個時候的普遍氛圍是這樣
從白方慢慢掌握到模樣棋應付對策以後 現在整個滄海桑田面目全非了
黑反而回頭流行135 鬥散手拚官子
可是這種風格的棋 黑圍空效率不發揮 理論上白棋就是比較好下
實戰事實也證明:現在同一棋手勝率執白往往高於執黑 猜先也是選白的多
我想是到時候該調整貼目了
重回5目半會平衡一點
隨著認知的深化...也許最後會倒退回貼目制初期3、4目半也說不定
哈哈
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: 之前阿法狗的時候就有提到電腦判斷貼7目半是白優。
: 今天的比賽大部分都是白獲勝,日韓也是貼6目半,
: 就只有中國的棋戰貼7目半。
: 各位認為貼7目半會不會太多了?
結論先講:3.75子(俗稱7目半=8點)和6目半可能會成為時代的眼淚吧!
記得前幾年中國流和小一路迷你中國流套路盛行...
貼7.5目太多?那時候好像沒有人在討論這種問題
那時候黑方常常不是中盤勝 就是前100手走完差不多就贏個12~15目
當然還是有很多白棋的勝場 套路達人型選手畢竟沒那麼多
而且你前期走好中後盤也沒法保證不翻盤
大龍被殺或官子失利常常會發生在這類布局強的選手身上(中國特多)
但是那個時候由於白方對於這些高效率的黑棋布局沒有很好的對策
儘管總體來講黑勝率沒高到哪去...
普遍的氛圍是懷疑中國7.5目的貼目是否還會上修?
或者是在討論韓國6.5目是否貼得太少?是否要跟進7.5?
當然貼子和貼目的意義略有不同...我主要是要講那個時候的普遍氛圍是這樣
從白方慢慢掌握到模樣棋應付對策以後 現在整個滄海桑田面目全非了
黑反而回頭流行135 鬥散手拚官子
可是這種風格的棋 黑圍空效率不發揮 理論上白棋就是比較好下
實戰事實也證明:現在同一棋手勝率執白往往高於執黑 猜先也是選白的多
我想是到時候該調整貼目了
重回5目半會平衡一點
隨著認知的深化...也許最後會倒退回貼目制初期3、4目半也說不定
哈哈
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