莊家連莊慢胡問題 - 麻將

By Oliver
at 2022-09-05T22:56
at 2022-09-05T22:56
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※ 引述《lurlur (上帝粒子)》之銘言:
: 標題: [討論] 莊家連莊慢胡問題
: 時間: Wed Aug 31 10:41:26 2022
:
: 在一場牌局,我當時連莊,我聽25條,對家也聽25條,這時下家打出2條,對家用手
: 拿下一張牌(想過水抓我)並且也碰到牌墩,我喊胡,這時對家也倒牌,我跟他說你用手
: 碰到牌墩就不能胡了,他就爆氣了。
:
: 因為連莊慢胡是長輩教我的,不知道其他人怎麼看
首先你要有一點認知,長輩教的不一定是對的
: --
: 推 wylscott : 他是認為摸牌還沒拿起來就不算嗎? 08/31 11:08
: 他認為沒有這個規定,因為他確實碰到牌墩,但牌還沒拿起來,下次等他把牌拿起來比較
: 沒爭議
的確是沒有這個規定,除非你能在坊間哪一本麻將書上找到這個規定
這個問題要分成兩個部分討論
1.流程:按照一般流程,這種情況對家能不能胡
2.時間:摸牌快慢
這邊只會討論第1點,因為要先有第1點的共識,再來討論第2點才有意義
另外原PO講的是慢胡,所以這邊討論「趕快去摸牌」、「打快手」都沒有意義
如果真的要討論第2點,那還是要先定義怎樣算快、幾秒以內算快
故先只討論流程就可以了
現在的問題:對家手摸到牌墩到底可不可以胡?
你要先定義"手摸牌墩"是處於流程中的哪一個階段
一、如果你可以胡,那麼對家也可以胡。
你可以胡就表示現在還處於下家放槍階段,所以對家可胡
二、如果對家不能胡,那麼你也不能胡。
對家不能胡代表進入對家摸牌階段,都進入他的摸牌階段,你當然不能胡
結論:這例子不存在「你可以胡但對家不能胡」的狀況
--
: 標題: [討論] 莊家連莊慢胡問題
: 時間: Wed Aug 31 10:41:26 2022
:
: 在一場牌局,我當時連莊,我聽25條,對家也聽25條,這時下家打出2條,對家用手
: 拿下一張牌(想過水抓我)並且也碰到牌墩,我喊胡,這時對家也倒牌,我跟他說你用手
: 碰到牌墩就不能胡了,他就爆氣了。
:
: 因為連莊慢胡是長輩教我的,不知道其他人怎麼看
首先你要有一點認知,長輩教的不一定是對的
: --
: 推 wylscott : 他是認為摸牌還沒拿起來就不算嗎? 08/31 11:08
: 他認為沒有這個規定,因為他確實碰到牌墩,但牌還沒拿起來,下次等他把牌拿起來比較
: 沒爭議
的確是沒有這個規定,除非你能在坊間哪一本麻將書上找到這個規定
這個問題要分成兩個部分討論
1.流程:按照一般流程,這種情況對家能不能胡
2.時間:摸牌快慢
這邊只會討論第1點,因為要先有第1點的共識,再來討論第2點才有意義
另外原PO講的是慢胡,所以這邊討論「趕快去摸牌」、「打快手」都沒有意義
如果真的要討論第2點,那還是要先定義怎樣算快、幾秒以內算快
故先只討論流程就可以了
現在的問題:對家手摸到牌墩到底可不可以胡?
你要先定義"手摸牌墩"是處於流程中的哪一個階段
一、如果你可以胡,那麼對家也可以胡。
你可以胡就表示現在還處於下家放槍階段,所以對家可胡
二、如果對家不能胡,那麼你也不能胡。
對家不能胡代表進入對家摸牌階段,都進入他的摸牌階段,你當然不能胡
結論:這例子不存在「你可以胡但對家不能胡」的狀況
--
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