艾爾登法環 根本沒比較簡單 - PS

By Caitlin
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※ 引述《dayand》之銘言
: 個人經驗只有黑魂1代和血源
: 不過嚴格來說 黑魂和血源的戰鬥方式不同
: 所以距離上一次玩魂系列有11年了
: 就目前玩了了4小時的心得....
目前玩了3小時
因為才剛玩完AC奧德賽
原本對開放世界的印象很差
等到實際玩之後
馬上就知道我想多了
魂配開放世界是在太美妙了
: 開放世界用魂系列的背景介紹方式
: 劇情從頭到尾就是看不懂
我是很好奇要像
隻狼那樣有演出或對話才算有劇情嗎?
平常很多人吐槽動畫打個架一堆廢話
魂系擺個pose 大聲咆哮就開打不好嗎?
而且每作的目的都很明確
為了自己的目的殺死敵人
拿到自己要的東西
很有自己寫自己故事的感覺
我是很討厭過場動畫
直接演我根本不會選擇做的事
: 技能也不夠直覺 戰灰是幹麻的完全沒有說明
戰灰有說明吧?
: 當初黑魂1代是因為經費不足才用那種敘述方式 現在開放世界你也這樣搞
: 雖然說開放世界可以到處走 但根本沒有意義
: 沒有村民互動 沒有釣魚之類的休閒活動
: 沒有任務可以接 也沒有開放世界的自由度可言
: 雖然說現在可以讓你"農一下等級"再來打你想打的王
: 但懂得英高的設定 就可以明白升一等就是攻擊力120變成121而已
: 生命值更沒用了 初始生命約500 boss攻擊200-300升一等生命+24
: 地圖資源的採集 基本上也沒啥意義
: 畢竟開放世界讓你採集資源
: 就是可以獲得比較多的消耗品 或改造更強大的武器
你只是還沒拿到而已吧
打隱藏地城不是會有不錯的獎勵嗎
也還沒開始用採集的東西做實用道具
: 法環目前兩者都沒有
: 感覺就像滿地圖的垃圾 我真的好奇有人會停下來撿
: 整個遊戲的核心 就是打王和熟悉王的招式
我不知道你對魂系遊戲的
開放世界有什麼期望啦
但是魂系從血源之後
一直都是圍繞著戰鬥做成的遊戲
其他部分固然也很好
但是很多玩家就是為了殺敵才玩的
開放世界的意義 就是可以探索遇到強敵
在大地圖把敵人全部找出來釘孤枝
根本就超好玩的吧!!!
而且因為開放世界遇到野外王可以跳過
解除了初期敵人不能太強的限制
更加強了地區的敵人豐富度
魂三前半敵人都很弱
老玩家應該有人覺得蠻難熬的
這次開門直接放一個大樹守衛給你打到爽
路邊巨人一二階加起來有七招
新手可以選擇跳過
老手可以直接開打
對我來說打王拿到潮爆武器或是稀有材料
就是探索最大的回饋了
什麼釣魚跟村民對話
就不是魂類想帶給你的體驗啊
: 玩來玩去 覺得開放世界有點多餘 只是個噱頭
: 就是地圖比較大的黑魂罷了
補充一點好了
烏龍派出所有一集 兩津在大馬路上比足球
還有一集在叢林打高爾夫
你會覺得那還只是高爾夫跟足球
場地沒意義嗎?
像大樹守衛你自己就說會鎖到小怪了
在開放場地打王會遇到這種干擾
這時候你就可以思考是不是可以
把它引到比較好打的地方
以往魂系場地很爛 你只能硬著頭皮打
現在有更高自由度不好嗎?
: 我沒說遊戲不好喔!畫面有進步 可以用回營火有"些許"人性化
: 但這些也是跟黑魂有比較人性化而已
: 更多的是開放世界的指標不明確 和空洞的大地圖
: 另外就是開放世界 有時候打怪會變成很怪的視角
: 打第一個王的時候 我往後跑重新鎖定目標
: 竟然會鎖定到野生動物 而且轉不回來
更新:我也遇到了鎖定問題
打群怪的時候鎖定跟我預想的常常不同
錯怪你了 抱歉
: (只能取消鎖定 再從新鎖定 然後我就被王從後面打死了)
: 簡單的評語就是:
: 他就是黑魂
: 開放世界可以當作沒有
: 就這樣
其實很多人無法享受黑魂
是因為戰鬥要打到覺得很好玩
門檻不低啦
隻狼會比較多人覺得有成就感
是因為敵人很明確指導玩家核心打法
但是魂系手段多元
很多人R1破完之後
連踢盾 背刺 盾反都沒用過幾次
自然覺得這遊戲就滾滾戳 又夠無聊
滿可惜的 不過如果想打得跟隻狼一樣緊湊
需要大量經驗跟練習就是了
的確對比較少玩的不友善
--
He who makes a beast out of himself
Gets rid of the pain of being a man
--
: 個人經驗只有黑魂1代和血源
: 不過嚴格來說 黑魂和血源的戰鬥方式不同
: 所以距離上一次玩魂系列有11年了
: 就目前玩了了4小時的心得....
目前玩了3小時
因為才剛玩完AC奧德賽
原本對開放世界的印象很差
等到實際玩之後
馬上就知道我想多了
魂配開放世界是在太美妙了
: 開放世界用魂系列的背景介紹方式
: 劇情從頭到尾就是看不懂
我是很好奇要像
隻狼那樣有演出或對話才算有劇情嗎?
平常很多人吐槽動畫打個架一堆廢話
魂系擺個pose 大聲咆哮就開打不好嗎?
而且每作的目的都很明確
為了自己的目的殺死敵人
拿到自己要的東西
很有自己寫自己故事的感覺
我是很討厭過場動畫
直接演我根本不會選擇做的事
: 技能也不夠直覺 戰灰是幹麻的完全沒有說明
戰灰有說明吧?
: 當初黑魂1代是因為經費不足才用那種敘述方式 現在開放世界你也這樣搞
: 雖然說開放世界可以到處走 但根本沒有意義
: 沒有村民互動 沒有釣魚之類的休閒活動
: 沒有任務可以接 也沒有開放世界的自由度可言
: 雖然說現在可以讓你"農一下等級"再來打你想打的王
: 但懂得英高的設定 就可以明白升一等就是攻擊力120變成121而已
: 生命值更沒用了 初始生命約500 boss攻擊200-300升一等生命+24
: 地圖資源的採集 基本上也沒啥意義
: 畢竟開放世界讓你採集資源
: 就是可以獲得比較多的消耗品 或改造更強大的武器
你只是還沒拿到而已吧
打隱藏地城不是會有不錯的獎勵嗎
也還沒開始用採集的東西做實用道具
: 法環目前兩者都沒有
: 感覺就像滿地圖的垃圾 我真的好奇有人會停下來撿
: 整個遊戲的核心 就是打王和熟悉王的招式
我不知道你對魂系遊戲的
開放世界有什麼期望啦
但是魂系從血源之後
一直都是圍繞著戰鬥做成的遊戲
其他部分固然也很好
但是很多玩家就是為了殺敵才玩的
開放世界的意義 就是可以探索遇到強敵
在大地圖把敵人全部找出來釘孤枝
根本就超好玩的吧!!!
而且因為開放世界遇到野外王可以跳過
解除了初期敵人不能太強的限制
更加強了地區的敵人豐富度
魂三前半敵人都很弱
老玩家應該有人覺得蠻難熬的
這次開門直接放一個大樹守衛給你打到爽
路邊巨人一二階加起來有七招
新手可以選擇跳過
老手可以直接開打
對我來說打王拿到潮爆武器或是稀有材料
就是探索最大的回饋了
什麼釣魚跟村民對話
就不是魂類想帶給你的體驗啊
: 玩來玩去 覺得開放世界有點多餘 只是個噱頭
: 就是地圖比較大的黑魂罷了
補充一點好了
烏龍派出所有一集 兩津在大馬路上比足球
還有一集在叢林打高爾夫
你會覺得那還只是高爾夫跟足球
場地沒意義嗎?
像大樹守衛你自己就說會鎖到小怪了
在開放場地打王會遇到這種干擾
這時候你就可以思考是不是可以
把它引到比較好打的地方
以往魂系場地很爛 你只能硬著頭皮打
現在有更高自由度不好嗎?
: 我沒說遊戲不好喔!畫面有進步 可以用回營火有"些許"人性化
: 但這些也是跟黑魂有比較人性化而已
: 更多的是開放世界的指標不明確 和空洞的大地圖
: 另外就是開放世界 有時候打怪會變成很怪的視角
: 打第一個王的時候 我往後跑重新鎖定目標
: 竟然會鎖定到野生動物 而且轉不回來
更新:我也遇到了鎖定問題
打群怪的時候鎖定跟我預想的常常不同
錯怪你了 抱歉
: (只能取消鎖定 再從新鎖定 然後我就被王從後面打死了)
: 簡單的評語就是:
: 他就是黑魂
: 開放世界可以當作沒有
: 就這樣
其實很多人無法享受黑魂
是因為戰鬥要打到覺得很好玩
門檻不低啦
隻狼會比較多人覺得有成就感
是因為敵人很明確指導玩家核心打法
但是魂系手段多元
很多人R1破完之後
連踢盾 背刺 盾反都沒用過幾次
自然覺得這遊戲就滾滾戳 又夠無聊
滿可惜的 不過如果想打得跟隻狼一樣緊湊
需要大量經驗跟練習就是了
的確對比較少玩的不友善
--
He who makes a beast out of himself
Gets rid of the pain of being a man
--
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