第八季慈悲一週上鑽心得 - 鬥陣特攻

By Quintina
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※ 引述《sakyle (Sakyle)》之銘言:
: 標題: [心得] 第八季慈悲一週上鑽心得
: 時間: Tue Jan 9 01:30:47 2018
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: - 前言
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: 在去年12月20幾日時跟板上某mercy的OTP板友說好了用慈悲上鑽
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: 原因是什麼就不多說了吧..
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: 所以這季季初預選就拿了慈悲開始玩
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: 上一季季末結算分數是2600,然後這季預選打完6勝4敗分數是2668
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: 跟以往預選都扣50幾分不一樣,這次是不扣反加了68分,讓我是覺得有點希望
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: 打到昨天凌晨 大概爬了一週 也從萬年白金順利上鑽啦 。:.゚ヽ(*′∀`)ノ゚.:。
:
恭喜你上鑽啊,慈悲超簡單der對吧
: - 會的角色越多越好,但絕對不是我只會一隻我驕傲 尤其是慈悲 (*゚∀゚*)
:
好奇問一下,原PO的意思是 OTP慈悲 = 我只會一隻我驕傲嗎,只是好奇驕傲的點在哪
而且OTP不代表只會一隻吧
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: 最後再來講一下
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: 個人覺得慈悲補量真的很夠,畢竟算是主補吧
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: 至少在我玩過安娜跟CO之後覺得算是最好補的角色,其次就是阿姨
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: 正常狀況某些角色是真的補不贏慈悲的,補贏是慈悲該反省,而不是補輸是他玩得爛
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:
: 好嗎(゚∀゚)?
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文章大部分都同意,除了上述這句話,慈悲補量很夠算是主補,這是很正常的事情,因為
他毫無輸出可言,如果一個角色沒輸出又不能當主補,這個角色創來要幹嘛?
還有呢,如果我們要討論補不補的贏慈悲,我們應該把他們放在同一條件下,因為慈悲
的95%遊戲時間都在補血,而安娜、路西歐、莫伊拉則不是,如果你一個角色大概有一半
的時間在防空做傷害(安娜)、開加速(路西歐)、或者用黑球+右鍵做傷害(莫阿姨),然後
它們補量還補贏慈悲,慈悲這隻角色可以砍了說實在。
所以要討論這個議題,最好的辦法就是能補血的角色都專注在補血,想像一下今天
一個安娜或路西歐或莫伊拉打算跟慈悲一起,把自家隊友奶到吐奶然後噁心死敵方
前者在整場遊戲都只做補血的動作,請問誰會贏?
以下是各個補師的補血技能
1. 路西歐:範圍補血靈氣+音量全開
2. 莫伊拉:範圍補血噴霧+範圍補血綠球
3. 安娜:單體藥劑槍+範圍補血罐子(附加補血增益效果)
4. 慈悲:單體補血(就一直按著)
依照上述技能說明,有範圍補血的角色明顯佔優吧,今天要是前排同時遭受大量傷害殘血
安娜路西歐莫伊拉的範圍補血就會非常佔優,慈悲就會有力不從心的問題,經過一場
遊戲之後前三者要是專注在補血,它們的補量都是可以跟慈悲一拚的。
我知道講這麼多你不信,這個情況很少出現blabla,不如我們看數據吧,我拿安娜當例子
因為安娜藥劑槍傷害轉換成補血是最直觀的
https://www.overbuff.com/heroes
上面連結是Overbuff的資料網站,放心不是釣魚網站
點進去後先按Support在按Primary
這是這個月的數據
https://imgur.com/a/C9T6J
你可以發現安娜的傷害+補量是大約等於慈悲的,也就是說要是安娜這場專注補血
慈悲不一定會在治療量上拿金牌
再者如果我們把傷害與補量加總做一個計算
猜猜看五個角色裡數值(輸出+治療)最低的是誰呢?
1. 慈悲:11877+395=12272
2. 路西歐:5612+8512=14124
3. 莫阿姨:7543+9331=16874
4. 安娜:3682+7739=11421
5. 和尚:8728+6761=15489
貢獻最高:莫阿姨,最低:安娜
依照上述計算,你可以發現慈悲的數值為倒數第二,和尚路西歐莫阿姨是
在另外一個等級,你說慈悲在整場遊戲裡混分,這點是可以部份同意的,因為慈悲能做
的事情實在有限,不像其他輔助可以輸出也可以補血,他的唯一賣點就是及時復活。
不過經過最新PTR的削弱後,我想慈悲很有可能進冰箱。
所以結論就是,如果慈悲補量輸給了某個補師,請不要叫他回去反省,因為他的上限就在
那,能做的事情就這樣,而其他三個範圍補師能做的事情,上限都比慈悲高,因此補量
贏慈悲不是這麼困難的事情。
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By Agnes
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話應該要比另一補高

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By Olivia
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沒有代換性質 你怎會加起來做比較

By Jacob
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擋,一個根本不用

By Sarah
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By Christine
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其他輔助比補量是…?有什麼好比的啊哈哈

By Hedwig
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By Eartha
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是滿正常的

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By Tristan Cohan
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By Hamiltion
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不是很有說服力

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By Sarah
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By Valerie
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By Sierra Rose
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By Tristan Cohan
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By Margaret
at 2018-03-09T09:22
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整體遊戲貢獻=輸出+治療 是我的假設

By Cara
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By Zora
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By Kyle
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By Aaliyah
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By Belly
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By Lily
at 2018-03-26T14:33
at 2018-03-26T14:33
你真的有玩過ANA嗎?_?

By Catherine
at 2018-03-29T01:49
at 2018-03-29T01:49
拿安娜數據出來討論也要被質疑有沒有玩過安娜...

By Jake
at 2018-03-30T20:31
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計算在內? 我已經跟你說貢獻不是這樣看得了

By Tom
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By Annie
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By Jacky
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By Edith
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By Wallis
at 2018-04-13T15:26
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上一篇文沒說錯 慈悲補輸其他補本來就不應該

By Carol
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By Jake
at 2018-04-19T13:23
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那人家有做傷害 還補贏你不是更奇怪嗎?_?

By Joe
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By John
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By Aaliyah
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By Quanna
at 2018-04-25T16:14
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可是對於慈悲來說能夠穿盾補血不受影響的

By Liam
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By Wallis
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By Candice
at 2018-05-03T10:16
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而現在的版本是 你就算夠準 大概也跟慈悲拼個4:6波罷了

By Steve
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By Kumar
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By Charlie
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By Harry
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By Kelly
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By Rae
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By Andrew
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By Yedda
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By Aaliyah
at 2018-05-19T00:55
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換算都當成睡到滿血豬而且安娜自己幹掉,那或許吧安
娜的分數就高了

By Edith
at 2018-05-21T08:46
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他具有一定程度的代表性不是嗎

By Faithe
at 2018-05-21T12:12
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不覺得跟現在meta有點脫離嗎?

By Queena
at 2018-05-25T13:42
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而只看補量 然後再把其他輔助的傷害+補量加起來說

By Andrew
at 2018-05-26T16:03
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你不覺得這樣假設怪怪的嗎
遊戲數據可以參考 但不能拿來這樣用 說到底還是玩過最知

By Charlotte
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By Rebecca
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類的討論貢獻嗎?這麼複雜你確定你有辦法量化?

By Michael
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By Quintina
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By Carolina Franco
at 2018-06-07T23:01
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意義或偏離事實 那不如就不要量化
拿量化的結果只看自己相信的部分 這算甚麼量化

By Sierra Rose
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By Todd Johnson
at 2018-06-15T13:08
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害,你視野內的隊友永遠都受傷你還一直輸出那乾脆奪
命凱瑞

By Quintina
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By Daph Bay
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也不是沒有道理

By Brianna
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By Joe
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身有一定程度的代表性這樣有沒有比較容易理解

By Isla
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By Brianna
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By Emma
at 2018-07-02T22:55
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說白了整體遊戲貢獻最有代表性的 就是使用率跟勝率了
大家都在爬分 大數據會顯示哪個英雄對遊戲勝敗影響最大

By Megan
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By Ethan
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By Rebecca
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By Brianna
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現在玩的版本不太一樣嗎?

By Sarah
at 2018-07-15T11:11
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在哪 在你心裡嗎

By Carolina Franco
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敵人XD

By Emily
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By Eden
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By Quintina
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By Edwina
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By Kumar
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By Freda
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By Lydia
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By Carol
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By Oscar
at 2018-08-06T07:33
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補血啊,要討論其他補師能不能再補血量上超過慈悲只能做
些假設,不然怎麼討論

By Oliver
at 2018-08-11T01:12
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你硬要加個假設 讓其他補在你假設的情況超越慈悲
這有什麼意義?_? 你要說遊戲整體貢獻 那很簡單阿

By Isla
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By Christine
at 2018-08-18T14:07
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這不就直接涵括了你我剛說的複雜因素? 你把補量跟傷害+起
來幹嗎??

By Mia
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By Gary
at 2018-08-24T17:43
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看看以前三坦平推陣的流行時候 選和尚會不會被嘴
你的這個假設 經歷過不同meta 玩過不同角色的人就知道

By Candice
at 2018-08-24T21:04
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但是你要討論大量數據,數據上就是慈悲平均補量最高阿

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2018-08-25T09:24
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量還贏慈悲,慈悲就該直接刪除。e兄這樣你懂嗎

By Mason
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By Valerie
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By Isla
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By Lydia
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By Jessica
at 2018-09-09T04:35
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By Hedy
at 2018-09-12T19:23
at 2018-09-12T19:23
量拿不到金牌是慈悲該檢討嗎?不一定,為什麼?因為在某
些情況下其他補師的補量能夠超過慈悲。

By Enid
at 2018-09-15T06:23
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By Susan
at 2018-09-18T23:24
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By Lucy
at 2018-09-23T09:02
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By Ula
at 2018-09-23T11:05
at 2018-09-23T11:05
每場狀況本來就不同

By Zanna
at 2018-09-26T02:48
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By William
at 2018-09-28T19:59
at 2018-09-28T19:59
而且老實說 你說的其他補只有ana吧

By Jake
at 2018-09-30T11:10
at 2018-09-30T11:10
意就夠了

By Olive
at 2018-10-02T09:59
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By Todd Johnson
at 2018-10-06T13:18
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By Daph Bay
at 2018-10-11T05:03
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By Cara
at 2018-10-15T16:22
at 2018-10-15T16:22
我不懂

By Annie
at 2018-10-20T00:24
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By Skylar Davis
at 2018-10-21T20:39
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By William
at 2018-10-22T03:54
at 2018-10-22T03:54
檢討? 怎麼覺得你只是要為拿不到金牌的慈悲開脫而已

By Valerie
at 2018-10-26T22:04
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By Heather
at 2018-10-30T03:43
at 2018-10-30T03:43
補都應該超過慈悲補量,看慈悲怎麼玩

By Olga
at 2018-11-03T16:29
at 2018-11-03T16:29
分數越高 他的補量越低

By Una
at 2018-11-05T12:48
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By Ethan
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By Necoo
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By Emma
at 2018-11-08T17:51
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By Heather
at 2018-11-13T02:21
at 2018-11-13T02:21
這不是得了便宜還賣乖嗎
所以宗師階級選其他輔助都蔡逼八 沒達到上限

By Catherine
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By Joseph
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By Heather
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By Hardy
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By Agnes
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By Christine
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By Tristan Cohan
at 2018-12-04T01:58
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By Charlotte
at 2018-12-08T05:11
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By Zenobia
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By Una
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By Hedy
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By Agatha
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By Belly
at 2018-12-19T02:13
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他們專心補血就能贏慈悲了是嗎

By Carol
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By Liam
at 2018-12-27T15:11
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By Agatha
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By Christine
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By Charlotte
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By Frederic
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By Harry
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By Erin
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By Edwina
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By Freda
at 2019-01-18T03:58
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一樣

By Vanessa
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By Edith
at 2019-01-21T04:56
at 2019-01-21T04:56
都宗師 不知道什麼時候要補 什麼時候要輸出?

By Mia
at 2019-01-23T06:58
at 2019-01-23T06:58
說白了慈悲現在的強度 當初ana最盛可能只有他的8成

By Noah
at 2019-01-27T13:21
at 2019-01-27T13:21
很合理的嗎?

By Charlie
at 2019-02-01T05:54
at 2019-02-01T05:54
啊,直接註明你是補教業者

By Aaliyah
at 2019-02-02T17:37
at 2019-02-02T17:37
面特化的慈悲滿正常的啊
把傷害數據轉化到補量並用這個數據說明慈悲補量也沒有
比較高,相對來說才不是正常狀況吧

By Necoo
at 2019-02-07T01:39
at 2019-02-07T01:39
,我也認為慈悲補量拿金牌很正常

By Yedda
at 2019-02-07T15:45
at 2019-02-07T15:45

By Megan
at 2019-02-09T01:07
at 2019-02-09T01:07
為徒?

By Gary
at 2019-02-13T08:53
at 2019-02-13T08:53

By Xanthe
at 2019-02-16T14:32
at 2019-02-16T14:32

By William
at 2019-02-19T21:36
at 2019-02-19T21:36
人覺得你有問題

By Madame
at 2019-02-19T23:10
at 2019-02-19T23:10

By Jacob
at 2019-02-20T18:52
at 2019-02-20T18:52

By Andrew
at 2019-02-23T06:00
at 2019-02-23T06:00

By Lucy
at 2019-02-23T15:06
at 2019-02-23T15:06

By Noah
at 2019-02-27T15:57
at 2019-02-27T15:57

By Faithe
at 2019-03-03T17:47
at 2019-03-03T17:47

By Genevieve
at 2019-03-05T06:45
at 2019-03-05T06:45

By Oliver
at 2019-03-09T07:47
at 2019-03-09T07:47
豈不被戰爆,一堆你啥啥啥沒考慮

By Rebecca
at 2019-03-13T18:26
at 2019-03-13T18:26

By Regina
at 2019-03-17T09:18
at 2019-03-17T09:18
這輩子沒見過

By Selena
at 2019-03-22T04:48
at 2019-03-22T04:48

By Blanche
at 2019-03-23T10:45
at 2019-03-23T10:45
是你真的不考慮玩其他補玩個十幾二十場看看嗎

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2019-03-27T09:51
at 2019-03-27T09:51

By Ophelia
at 2019-03-31T08:34
at 2019-03-31T08:34
意外的發言就一點都不ok了
以外

By Callum
at 2019-03-31T10:31
at 2019-03-31T10:31

By Lauren
at 2019-03-31T20:00
at 2019-03-31T20:00

By Dorothy
at 2019-04-04T10:10
at 2019-04-04T10:10
數據可以用 何苦自創奇怪的假設

By Zenobia
at 2019-04-04T11:30
at 2019-04-04T11:30
可以?阿要是有人說我故意在補量上放水怎辦

By Mia
at 2019-04-07T21:50
at 2019-04-07T21:50
偏離事實了
而且加總也沒有代表到你所想表達的 遊戲整體貢獻

By Ivy
at 2019-04-09T15:56
at 2019-04-09T15:56

By Lucy
at 2019-04-11T01:08
at 2019-04-11T01:08
補師只專注在補血不做傷害嗎

By Sarah
at 2019-04-12T21:47
at 2019-04-12T21:47

By Charlotte
at 2019-04-14T20:34
at 2019-04-14T20:34

By Vanessa
at 2019-04-19T14:09
at 2019-04-19T14:09
你真的當大家都當奪命女玩喔?

By Steve
at 2019-04-20T07:23
at 2019-04-20T07:23

By Catherine
at 2019-04-23T15:31
at 2019-04-23T15:31

By Edwina
at 2019-04-26T17:17
at 2019-04-26T17:17
起碼會玩的ana沒人是這樣玩的啦
沒意義阿 因為其他補師沒有"專心"補血這個選向阿

By John
at 2019-04-30T23:53
at 2019-04-30T23:53
悲

By Edith
at 2019-05-05T04:35
at 2019-05-05T04:35
他們只專心補血等於戳好嗎

By Mia
at 2019-05-07T22:39
at 2019-05-07T22:39

By Dinah
at 2019-05-10T00:00
at 2019-05-10T00:00
難玩技術要求高?

By Kelly
at 2019-05-11T12:17
at 2019-05-11T12:17

By George
at 2019-05-15T16:57
at 2019-05-15T16:57
說白了就是慈悲現在就是OP角 ana就算有技術也很難拼

By Steve
at 2019-05-16T12:51
at 2019-05-16T12:51
的補量能贏慈悲?

By Sandy
at 2019-05-18T18:38
at 2019-05-18T18:38

By Oliver
at 2019-05-20T19:50
at 2019-05-20T19:50

By Lily
at 2019-05-22T12:30
at 2019-05-22T12:30

By Kristin
at 2019-05-27T01:33
at 2019-05-27T01:33

By Suhail Hany
at 2019-05-29T16:23
at 2019-05-29T16:23

By Andrew
at 2019-05-29T20:37
at 2019-05-29T20:37
但同樣牌位的慈悲是11500~12000..

By Thomas
at 2019-05-29T21:48
at 2019-05-29T21:48

By Ivy
at 2019-06-03T07:49
at 2019-06-03T07:49
混分部分同意

By Cara
at 2019-06-04T20:46
at 2019-06-04T20:46

By Emily
at 2019-06-08T18:00
at 2019-06-08T18:00

By Sierra Rose
at 2019-06-12T10:05
at 2019-06-12T10:05
單就英雄本身的數據也能看出某些輔助如果在專注補量上
是能贏慈悲的,但我認為這不就是所謂的非正常情況下嗎
?
純論你這篇文章最後一段不認同原文觀點的部分來看,我
覺得是你對於“正常狀況”的理解跟原文要表達的不一樣
,後面的反對論述我覺得就是雞同鴨講了

By Zanna
at 2019-06-16T22:20
at 2019-06-16T22:20
PR50的奶量而已 這就是機體差距了
*慈悲
你要說ana有其他遊戲貢獻還啥的先不論 純論奶量 慈悲輸

By Andrew
at 2019-06-20T17:26
at 2019-06-20T17:26

By Olive
at 2019-06-23T00:18
at 2019-06-23T00:18

By Sierra Rose
at 2019-06-27T10:48
at 2019-06-27T10:48
不是?

By Jake
at 2019-06-30T23:21
at 2019-06-30T23:21

By Faithe
at 2019-07-03T04:28
at 2019-07-03T04:28
種模擬兩可的屁話,每一場狀況都不一樣這種事還要你提點
大家?正常狀況下慈悲的補量就是該大於其他輔助,一直哭
安娜能同時做傷害,一堆盾連自己人都補不到了是要做什麼
傷害?

By Enid
at 2019-07-06T20:23
at 2019-07-06T20:23

By Edward Lewis
at 2019-07-06T23:50
at 2019-07-06T23:50

By Donna
at 2019-07-11T12:34
at 2019-07-11T12:34

By Anonymous
at 2019-07-14T08:51
at 2019-07-14T08:51

By Faithe
at 2019-07-17T05:21
at 2019-07-17T05:21
簡單好上手又好爬分 OTP又沒人敢嘴 就是慈悲了

By Olive
at 2019-07-19T19:56
at 2019-07-19T19:56

By Kumar
at 2019-07-23T18:52
at 2019-07-23T18:52
排名第一?

By Kyle
at 2019-07-25T15:02
at 2019-07-25T15:02
在不知道該怎麼討論

By Caitlin
at 2019-07-27T02:31
at 2019-07-27T02:31
能做到所有子彈都在補血嗎?

By Sandy
at 2019-07-29T07:52
at 2019-07-29T07:52
敵人只要跑出來被你打到 就是傷害

By Zanna
at 2019-07-29T09:35
at 2019-07-29T09:35
接攻擊

By Gary
at 2019-08-02T02:26
at 2019-08-02T02:26

By Lydia
at 2019-08-06T01:36
at 2019-08-06T01:36

By Ula
at 2019-08-08T09:54
at 2019-08-08T09:54

By Odelette
at 2019-08-09T18:10
at 2019-08-09T18:10
數據補量部分跟低一兩階不會差太多 但傷害跟擊殺可就有
差距了

By Dorothy
at 2019-08-10T02:10
at 2019-08-10T02:10

By Delia
at 2019-08-11T14:39
at 2019-08-11T14:39

By Hardy
at 2019-08-13T18:16
at 2019-08-13T18:16
謝主榮恩了LUL

By Megan
at 2019-08-17T04:54
at 2019-08-17T04:54

By Hazel
at 2019-08-20T12:43
at 2019-08-20T12:43

By Joseph
at 2019-08-24T04:07
at 2019-08-24T04:07

By Callum
at 2019-08-27T14:58
at 2019-08-27T14:58
也是沒錯 有時候補個一槍帶走

By Edwina
at 2019-08-27T20:26
at 2019-08-27T20:26
選擇好 命中率接近完美)的情況下 是可以達到補量的極致

By Una
at 2019-08-29T19:14
at 2019-08-29T19:14

By Agatha
at 2019-09-02T10:11
at 2019-09-02T10:11

By Frederic
at 2019-09-04T23:56
at 2019-09-04T23:56

By Iris
at 2019-09-05T02:27
at 2019-09-05T02:27
贏安娜?

By Carol
at 2019-09-06T11:29
at 2019-09-06T11:29

By John
at 2019-09-09T03:23
at 2019-09-09T03:23

By Liam
at 2019-09-11T22:53
at 2019-09-11T22:53

By Catherine
at 2019-09-16T17:06
at 2019-09-16T17:06
每個輔助都有自己適合發揮的地方吧

By Daniel
at 2019-09-19T13:23
at 2019-09-19T13:23

By Zora
at 2019-09-20T18:50
at 2019-09-20T18:50
是最不具攻擊能力而是專精在治療上.

By Zora
at 2019-09-24T13:47
at 2019-09-24T13:47
嗎?

By Mason
at 2019-09-27T15:18
at 2019-09-27T15:18
就可以看出補量上的優劣了

By Charlie
at 2019-09-30T15:53
at 2019-09-30T15:53

By Thomas
at 2019-10-04T13:18
at 2019-10-04T13:18

By Enid
at 2019-10-08T01:29
at 2019-10-08T01:29

By Jacky
at 2019-10-11T00:02
at 2019-10-11T00:02
就好像寫一題證明題 證明結果對了但過程錯誤連篇
結果大家說這假設不對 就要一直說這結論對阿

By Odelette
at 2019-10-12T12:39
at 2019-10-12T12:39

By James
at 2019-10-17T00:51
at 2019-10-17T00:51
悲該反省
主要是不懂為何要這樣比欸 每個輔助定位不同

By Anonymous
at 2019-10-18T10:57
at 2019-10-18T10:57
否則技能組也不會設定無法邊補邊攻擊

By Jacob
at 2019-10-19T18:05
at 2019-10-19T18:05

By Damian
at 2019-10-24T07:24
at 2019-10-24T07:24

By Eden
at 2019-10-27T23:40
at 2019-10-27T23:40

By Susan
at 2019-10-31T01:46
at 2019-10-31T01:46
悲有問題 那誰才有問題?

By Agnes
at 2019-11-03T15:43
at 2019-11-03T15:43

By Carolina Franco
at 2019-11-06T10:35
at 2019-11-06T10:35
CO師傅如果只專注補血 那就是在混懂嗎

By Caroline
at 2019-11-11T06:43
at 2019-11-11T06:43

By Ivy
at 2019-11-14T23:10
at 2019-11-14T23:10

By Jacob
at 2019-11-18T19:51
at 2019-11-18T19:51

By Kristin
at 2019-11-19T19:42
at 2019-11-19T19:42
槍

By Frederic
at 2019-11-21T05:44
at 2019-11-21T05:44
,下面那邊再解釋慈悲被誤認混分的部分原因

By Regina
at 2019-11-24T05:49
at 2019-11-24T05:49

By Irma
at 2019-11-27T11:16
at 2019-11-27T11:16
他們要是集中在補血,有機會補量超過慈悲

By Lucy
at 2019-12-01T09:13
at 2019-12-01T09:13

By Lily
at 2019-12-02T04:18
at 2019-12-02T04:18

By Jacky
at 2019-12-06T16:24
at 2019-12-06T16:24

By George
at 2019-12-07T18:21
at 2019-12-07T18:21

By Kama
at 2019-12-07T23:37
at 2019-12-07T23:37

By Jake
at 2019-12-09T23:45
at 2019-12-09T23:45

By Xanthe
at 2019-12-11T03:13
at 2019-12-11T03:13

By Andy
at 2019-12-13T20:33
at 2019-12-13T20:33
你這架空在遊戲之外的假設到底要幹嘛

By Zanna
at 2019-12-16T06:38
at 2019-12-16T06:38
那我還是要說 回歸遊戲去玩個幾把吧

By Joseph
at 2019-12-18T14:24
at 2019-12-18T14:24

By Emma
at 2019-12-21T12:19
at 2019-12-21T12:19

By Hamiltion
at 2019-12-24T15:35
at 2019-12-24T15:35
性

By Faithe
at 2019-12-25T16:06
at 2019-12-25T16:06

By Adele
at 2019-12-28T05:46
at 2019-12-28T05:46

By Vanessa
at 2019-12-31T21:34
at 2019-12-31T21:34

By Elma
at 2020-01-04T07:10
at 2020-01-04T07:10
你去測試也好 但我必須說沒駕馭ana該有的基本功
你測試出來的東西也只是你自己的體驗而已

By Tracy
at 2020-01-05T05:24
at 2020-01-05T05:24

By Yedda
at 2020-01-09T05:29
at 2020-01-09T05:29
自斷手腳 至於安娜的話我只能說多打幾場就知道為什麼安
娜的補量很難贏慈悲了

By Gilbert
at 2020-01-11T00:15
at 2020-01-11T00:15

By Annie
at 2020-01-11T09:27
at 2020-01-11T09:27
二是那些補贏的並沒有盡到該角色的本分

By Bethany
at 2020-01-15T08:29
at 2020-01-15T08:29

By Annie
at 2020-01-17T23:58
at 2020-01-17T23:58

By Madame
at 2020-01-21T14:40
at 2020-01-21T14:40

By Wallis
at 2020-01-22T16:01
at 2020-01-22T16:01

By Wallis
at 2020-01-27T02:53
at 2020-01-27T02:53
再來考慮每單位時間內會不會因為受騷擾或其他因素而無法補
量最大化。安娜補不贏絕對是本身準度要求比慈悲高太多,又
因為盾擋奶線的緣故,不是在那邊分心傷害的。

By Mia
at 2020-01-31T23:10
at 2020-01-31T23:10

By Regina
at 2020-02-03T16:16
at 2020-02-03T16:16
色理解應該不會太偏差,慈悲真的是最輕鬆最簡單也相對不用
擔心被騷擾時無法做事的角色了。現在這個meta大部分狀況,
慈悲補輸其他就是該檢討是不是對血量警覺性太差,沒牽到正
確的人,而不是在那邊說上限就是那樣來自我安慰。

By Anthony
at 2020-02-04T00:06
at 2020-02-04T00:06
只專心補血的低端

By Candice
at 2020-02-04T05:53
at 2020-02-04T05:53
補量不會輸慈悲

By Carol
at 2020-02-08T23:50
at 2020-02-08T23:50

By Daniel
at 2020-02-13T16:34
at 2020-02-13T16:34
到50%,反而補量7600的和尚勝率比安娜高得多,所以用
傷害+補量來判定我覺得不太妥當,我覺得最直觀就是看
勝率吧

By Daniel
at 2020-02-14T15:56
at 2020-02-14T15:56

By Poppy
at 2020-02-15T07:22
at 2020-02-15T07:22

By Rae
at 2020-02-15T18:44
at 2020-02-15T18:44
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