真三八,其實根本沒有某些人講得那麼爛啊 - PS

By Oliver
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如題,真三國無雙8
昨天收到的禮物,
結果昨晚+今天年三十沒事就開來玩一下,
根本就很好玩啊。
當然這個遊戲有相當多的小缺點,
而且有的是不容忽視的缺點,
很多大家都講過了,我這裡針對各方面討論,包含優點和缺點。
畫面掉幀+停頓
我是用PS4舊機(厚機)玩,
感覺是還好,我這個人對畫面還有流暢度的要求很低,
只要不會影響到遊玩進度跟戰場表現,
我都覺得是可以習慣的,
我玩到現在的感覺就是,並沒有什麼地方讓我覺得畫面表現嚴重影響遊戲體驗的,
不過有那種騎馬上山結果卡卡的,
那個對我而言比較扣分,但也還不到不能忍受。
中文語音
令我感到意外的是,
這次的中文語音不會覺得違和耶,
以前都聽日文原音,結果現在換中文語音覺得也不錯,
真的是配的不錯耶,中國的聲優們。
致敬
本作真的致敬太多,
無論是大地圖還是探索要素還是城戰據點戰,
我覺得有不少國外大作的影子,
例如刺客教條的爬塔開圖要素、類似極地戰嚎的打獵蒐集要素,
FF15那種大地圖公路電影要素、魔多之影/戰爭之影那種勁敵特寫+地圖支線任務,
感覺就是把一堆名菜炒成一碟大鍋炒,
至於味道如何見仁見智,
我覺得還算不錯。
新動作系統
一開始用挺不習慣的,
等到熟了之後真的有爽感,
比原本的C技系統有意思,
尤其是配出屬性之後更多不同的感覺,
例如風雷屬性加移速攻速、火屬性加無雙傷害,
而且不只是畫面而已,附加效果真的讓人很有感。
最大的問題是小據點人不夠,打起來不夠爽,
人太多畫面真的有點頓頓的,
雖然可以忍受,但是使種讓人覺得加油加到一半輪胎漏氣的感覺。
採集系統+裝備道具製造
我覺得基本上這個系統是不錯的,
問題在於執行面上出了很大的問題,
讓我很討厭這次的這個新要素。
這在真田丸的時候我就覺得很糟糕了這裡再砲一次。
在這個超級大中國地圖裡,
你要安排幾十種的素材給人採,
理所當然地就會要玩家奔波一堆地方,放慢遊戲進度去農素材,
結果就是讓人覺得好像才揮刀兩三下打了個據點,
之後又要上馬奔波採人參了,很解嗨。
更糟糕的是他那個竹簡系統,
竹簡的取得方法是打武將跟解任務所給的獎勵,
但是遊戲內完全不告訴你要打贏誰或是過哪個任務才能拿到竹簡,
沒拿到的時候你連製作道具的解說頁面都沒有,
這讓我覺得這個設計很無謂,
把已經很折磨人的採集製作系統搞得更坑人。
故事劇情
我覺得這一代的劇情非常棒。
本來我覺得都是同一個故事又沒有IF線,
一定看得很無聊,
結果我發現本作刻意走細節路線,
把那些我們看過好幾遍的三國故事,
用很細節的方式演出來,
而且是以人物角色(將領們)為經,各大戰役為緯,
玩起來像是在玩每個人物的傳記一樣,
最後打完,大多數退場角色都不會就直接死給你看,
而比較像是點亮角色們死之前發光發亮的時光,
這個手法我覺得很細膩又很感人。
勢力系統
遊戲在遊玩中還能查詢我方勢力跟敵方勢力的消長,
所以你能夠直衝主線入城殺了張角,
也能在周圍把紅旗全部變成藍旗,降低攻略難度,
這一點我覺得還不錯,最大的問題就是地圖實在是太大了,
如果地圖只有四分之一大,那這樣玩起來會好玩很多,
但是到時候應該也會被酸超大型中國地圖名不符實之類的吧,真難做。
地圖與自由探索
如上所述,這麼大的地圖在打,
原本有fu都沒fu了,
況且本作自由探索要素實在不多,
打個比方,就好像煮了一百人份的廣東粥,
結果只加了一斤的瘦肉跟一打的皮蛋。
這樣的粥喝起來怎麼能讓人過癮呢??
日夜交替跟地圖上有動態武將或敵對勢力遭遇我覺得還不錯,
但是還是那句老話,全部都被稀釋了。
IF劇情
沒有IF劇情對我來說是硬傷,
無雙本傳,無論戰無三無,
我覺得最大的問題就是戰鬥時各無雙武將的表現,
跟戰鬥結束後的結果根本不一致。
試想,我剛剛打生打死一騎當千殺敵過萬,
好不容易斬殺了幾十個有名字的將領最後欺負到敵方主公的居城還給他蓋布袋,
然後過場動畫跟你講,你輸了。
如果是前幾代還好,偏偏這一代主打的是高自由度到處探索,
我這一章所有支線都解了,
幫我軍建立了超級無敵優勢後,把對方阿魯巴到死,
結果現在你跟我說我輸了??
不過我也能體會本作,光榮光是搞那個超大中國就飽了的難處,
日廠無論市場規模、技術高低、預算多寡、開發人數,
都遠遠不如歐美大廠家大業大本多利厚,
人家搞了個課金糞星戰BF2,照樣可以賺超過十倍的收益,
日廠真的就只能運用各種創意跟軟武器(畫風、劇情、系統特色、風格)來取勝,
強行想在歐美廠最強的高階引擎+畫面運算上跟三A大作看齊,
下場就是這樣,畫質不佳FPS不穩流暢度失敗,
讓部分玩家失望。
但我必須說,
我玩了這款遊戲而得到的遊戲體驗是很正面的,
因為上述的所有抱怨跟缺點,
講白了其實只有一個:不足感。
弄了一張太大的地圖所以探索得空虛的不足感,
畫面跟FPS的不足感,
整個系統好像少了幾塊拼圖的不足感,
有的遊戲雖然短但是很飽滿,能讓人覺得玩完很過癮很飽,
這個遊戲比較像是玩的當下很過癮,
但是過程中很多讓你覺得不夠滿足的感覺,
除了這個缺點之外,
我覺得本作非常優秀,
絕對並非版上一堆人聲稱的那樣一文不值。
感覺真的就像是那個以前出戰畫面點好後才出現在自軍本陣的孫堅曹操,
真的是在一個開放的中國大陸上,
有連續性地在攻城掠地,大放異彩,
而且戰鬥風格我也很喜歡,
武器模組也沒有某些人在上市前砲的那樣只有兩三種,
90個將領有大概50種,也算是夠玩的了。
所以我的結論是,
這是一款缺點多多,而且有著濃厚的趕鴨子上架感,
各方面而言都不成熟的遊戲,
但是卻是一款好玩的遊戲。
這是一款希望跟前作道別,
因此花了很多心力大改大破,但是依然非常不足的遊戲,
但是以日廠的規模與困境而言,
我覺得他們已經很努力了,
光是這種想要求新求變的心意氣,
就讓我覺得比卡普空的同性質IP好太多了。
至於S級的大bug,
我現在還沒遇到,
希望我還沒遇到之前他們就修好了,
會出現這種大問題,代表他們真的就是趕著上市,
趕不趕倒是其次,
希望能好好把這種誇張的錯誤給改掉。
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