理論上人類能贏,電腦自己對奕總有一方輸 - 圍棋
By Jacob
at 2017-01-04T00:10
at 2017-01-04T00:10
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※ 引述《zkow (逍遙山水憶秋年)》之銘言:
: 看了50盤Master戰勝人類頂尖職業棋手的盤後,感到有種絕望感
: 幸好,隨之而來的是一種希望與期望感
: 照理說,理論上人類還是有可能贏Master的
: Master自我對弈,總有100個Master贏,100個Master輸
: 目前看了50盤Master怎麼贏的,卻看不到他是怎麼輸的
: 若人類能看到100盤Master自我對弈的棋,並研究他的棋理
: 相信還是能戰勝Master
要戰勝最強的AI可能有困難,
但從AI學棋是很自然的。
西洋棋已不待言,現在將棋界的主流也是如此。
從千田翔太高調表示,他近幾年都已經不打人類的對局譜,
而都是看AI對戰的棋譜來學棋,以及不參加棋士的練習會,
而選擇買好的硬體在家和AI下棋開始,他的走法已經參入許多電腦的應手,
和一般棋士的常規走法已有許多不同之處。
目前他是本年度的勝場及勝率王,也拿到了棋王戰的挑戰資格,
還有他的「換角」佈陣方式開始成為現在最流行的佈陣法。
從將棋的經驗也可以看出,人向AI學習變得更強是很正常的,
差別在於將棋的AI即使最強的ponanza程式還沒有釋出,
但屬二屬三的Apery、やねうら王都釋出程式,
以及固定無時無刻有軟體對戰棋譜可以看
http://wdoor.c.u-tokyo.ac.jp/shogi/floodgate.html
基本上人想從AI學習將棋技巧是完全做得到的,
而且還可以挑選任一盤面利用軟體來檢討應手及評價,
學習效率可以獲得大幅提升。
等圍棋AI整個百花齊放及普及到一般層面運用後,
這應該也會是必然的趨勢。
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: 看了50盤Master戰勝人類頂尖職業棋手的盤後,感到有種絕望感
: 幸好,隨之而來的是一種希望與期望感
: 照理說,理論上人類還是有可能贏Master的
: Master自我對弈,總有100個Master贏,100個Master輸
: 目前看了50盤Master怎麼贏的,卻看不到他是怎麼輸的
: 若人類能看到100盤Master自我對弈的棋,並研究他的棋理
: 相信還是能戰勝Master
要戰勝最強的AI可能有困難,
但從AI學棋是很自然的。
西洋棋已不待言,現在將棋界的主流也是如此。
從千田翔太高調表示,他近幾年都已經不打人類的對局譜,
而都是看AI對戰的棋譜來學棋,以及不參加棋士的練習會,
而選擇買好的硬體在家和AI下棋開始,他的走法已經參入許多電腦的應手,
和一般棋士的常規走法已有許多不同之處。
目前他是本年度的勝場及勝率王,也拿到了棋王戰的挑戰資格,
還有他的「換角」佈陣方式開始成為現在最流行的佈陣法。
從將棋的經驗也可以看出,人向AI學習變得更強是很正常的,
差別在於將棋的AI即使最強的ponanza程式還沒有釋出,
但屬二屬三的Apery、やねうら王都釋出程式,
以及固定無時無刻有軟體對戰棋譜可以看
http://wdoor.c.u-tokyo.ac.jp/shogi/floodgate.html
基本上人想從AI學習將棋技巧是完全做得到的,
而且還可以挑選任一盤面利用軟體來檢討應手及評價,
學習效率可以獲得大幅提升。
等圍棋AI整個百花齊放及普及到一般層面運用後,
這應該也會是必然的趨勢。
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