無聊的八版,無奈的抓馬 - WOW

By Hedwig
at 2019-04-26T08:17
at 2019-04-26T08:17
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大家好,我是Nightfall的坦克之一 Nocbrew,也就是抓馬中嗣音的男朋友。以下我受
Nightfall RL委託將事實還原,若有文字不順或用字不佳之處還請見諒。
首先,關於Nightfall,我們是由一群3.0就認識及7.0的一些團員所組成,然而若是用心
調查就可以知道,嗣音、Nocbrew、弗蘿倫絲皆為在達薩亞洛開放前招募的團員,所以原
文中所提到的包庇親友這件事是完全扭曲事實,以下附圖為證
https://imgur.com/a/ObGUCPa
下圖為第一次參加活動的記錄
https://imgur.com/a/ef2yo2t
可以看到嗣音只提早弗蘿倫絲18天進入工會,達薩亞洛開放則是01.24,何來親友之說?
再來回應H珍娜越權指揮一事。確實那天拓荒時嗣音因為指揮不熟悉戰術而下達了錯誤的
戰術,所以在戰鬥途中直接指出應該先打水元素而非救人,在這件事情上團隊幹部與嗣音
進行討論與了解之後也達成了雙方的共識即盡可能不要在戰鬥中隨意發言破壞指揮,但是
還是希望嗣音之後能夠繼續為團隊點出問題所在。對於原文中的數度失控、亂抓戰犯等指
控,團隊認為並無此事,然因實況記錄無法進行較長時間的保存所以也無從提供證據證明
,遂不進行說明。下圖為公告截圖:
https://imgur.com/a/Bbu16Sk
再來DK坦的問題,團隊一直以來都認為後補人員應該有一定的實力在上場幾次嘗試後便能
做到相應的戰術,所以會讓沒有拿過成就的團員進來練習及嘗試,然而當週的狀況則是無
法在一天的時間內順利農完1-6,所以在週六臨近散團一個小時的時候開始有團員認為應
該把更多的時間花在工匠而非卡在神王。敝團活動時間一周只有6.5hr,若在農的階段就
花費太多時間則需要大量練習的工匠將沒有時間可用。這時就有團員提出將筆者與滾床單
進行交換,同時讓滾床單用DD在副本內觀察學習坦克戰術。團隊至始至終沒有將滾床單踢
出團隊的意思,一下為團長的回應:
滾床單事發當天出團結束後有再上線,跟我表明他要退團的意願。這邊的部分我並沒有截
圖,因為並沒有想到會被其他團員當作抓馬的材料。收到消息的當下考慮他心情尚未平復
,所以也有進行挽留的動作。當時我印象中他給我的回覆是大概是,「不了,就這樣吧」
之類的回覆,所以在我個人的解讀中是已經下了決定要退團,所以跟弗蘿倫絲口中講到「
被踢出團隊」是完全不同的事情。在這之後滾床單(圖中的雙子寶寶)也有密語提到關於
中途退團一事感到抱歉,我的當下的認知是他基於責任感提出如果團隊有需求可以收他回
來,也因為這樣我不希望他是在這樣的情況下玩遊戲,所以希望他能夠找到更適合的環境
https://imgur.com/a/YHNoKg5
關於實況嘴隊友一事,團隊一直覺得這就是私人恩怨,但對於死亡率的指控還請拿出數據
說話。
https://imgur.com/a/edmp2V8
上圖為取本週首推大工匠時的出團記錄作為樣本(n=19,8,11,從左至右),統計了拓荒時
(包括首推)時的存活率,可以很明顯的看到週五週六時弗蘿倫絲的存活率一直在90%以
下,到了週日才有所起色,而嗣音從週五開始即維持這一定的生存率更是在週日的時候幾
乎走完了正常戰鬥。原文中所謂“介於中間”不知道從何得來?我們再來看看承受傷害。
https://imgur.com/a/xPwUxWO
上圖可以發現弗蘿倫絲在拓荒過程中承受的傷害可以一直保持在DPS的前三名,不禁讓人
好奇是什麼原因。筆者與團隊內的術士了解到在工匠的戰鬥中可以利用攻擊小機器人來賺
取更多能量,所以筆者過濾了其他傷害來源了解狀況(這部分筆者並非術士玩家,若有錯
誤還請指正)。
https://imgur.com/a/arRHGoA
https://imgur.com/a/qMnpN8t
https://imgur.com/a/kv42YM9
可以發現弗蘿倫絲承受了比其他人都高的反射傷害,理論上應該能夠打出漂亮的DPS了吧?
https://imgur.com/a/x66aqFc
https://imgur.com/a/bXzs8eR
https://imgur.com/a/LtHEOZE
數據證明能量偷得比別人兇然而同樣毀滅卻又打不過同團的術士,死亡率又比別人高。當
然也有可能只是技能不小心打到也說不定。
我們再來看看嗣音的數據
https://imgur.com/a/8xUXUAk
https://imgur.com/a/kieHVjR
https://imgur.com/a/PgeSR8e
打過M7都知道德魯伊的重要性,當時團隊只有兩隻德魯伊其中一隻還是補德狀況下要能夠
繼續進行控場的同時維持治療量,不知道各位看官覺得這位“女”補如何呢?
至於煽動部分,還請各位看以下截圖
https://imgur.com/a/5Prmq3s
https://imgur.com/a/QATiUhJ
https://imgur.com/a/3ENY22w
https://imgur.com/a/J6iyj1c
https://imgur.com/a/2GsJRmn
https://imgur.com/a/dEaHRHc
https://imgur.com/a/f8V3jOg
以下為團長針對這部分做的回應:
有關弗蘿倫絲很在意的抹黑,公告中敘述她的行為的用詞(她已經很熱心地幫我轉貼),完
全都是依照她私底下密其他團員A的用詞。公告中我有提到弗蘿倫絲開始私底下聯繫團員
1. 詢問下版跟團的意願
2. 表達自己不打算繼續跟團
3. 表達了自己對團隊的不滿,
4. 影射她不滿的團員
5. 告訴A她認為團隊的風氣漸漸的被她不滿的團員帶壞
以上的幾點敘述都可以在截圖1-5的內容看到,因為這樣的行為她已經開始私底下在團隊
的背後開始煽動團員,我不知道其他團隊在得知有團員在背後用以偏概全的方式(床單的
事情)說團員的壞話之後會用什麼方式處理,但是在團隊幹部的考量是顧慮到了既然今天
我們已經得知她在我們背後有這樣的行為,即使跟她溝通她說不會再犯我們也無法信任她
的說詞,既然無法信任,所以在經過將近3天的討論後取得共識長痛不如短痛將她退團。
截圖6中是經過A的要求將他前團長的名稱去除因為他不想要風向被帶太遠,但是經過A點
出後我發現當A說他前團才真的凶的時候,弗蘿倫絲因為知道A之前待過的團隊/公會,她
的馬上回應是點名A的前團長(紅色部分)。因為這樣A只好繼續釐清是更早之前公會(黃色
部分),而非前團長。這部分之前都跟團隊無關所以公告中沒有出現,當時也並沒有打算
將弗蘿倫絲私底下的密語截圖公開,但是既然她選擇在沒有這些資訊的情況下說我們是在
抹黑她,我也只能在取得團員A的許可下將密語的內容公開,反正也沒什麼好影藏的。這
邊我之所以會特別提出是因為這段對話是讓我認清弗蘿倫絲的為人的資訊之一,在得知團
員A說他前團隊更兇的馬上回應是試圖在A的前團長背後毀謗他的名聲,但是被A即時制止
,也是A要求我將他前團長及公會的名稱去除的原因,因為他不想要牽扯到他們。A的考量
很明顯的並不是弗蘿倫絲的優先考量,也清楚的告訴我她的為人。 截圖7的內容原本也屬
於私人恩怨所以在公告中並沒有回應,是她在私底下不斷地攻擊某某小D的言語。
==============================================================================
以上為團隊做的相關回應,再來為筆者註:
半夜看完復仇者聯盟就被告知上PTT了,拜讀完原文後發現實在非常有趣遂起了將整
個過程還原。還原過程中越發無法理解原PO的所思所想,不知道您是因為同為女生卻不僅
技不如人又沒聲望還是因為嗣音跟風叫阿姨您不爽了呢?我與嗣音自達薩開始就會以實況
的方式記錄遊戲歷程,不僅是想要分享遊戲過程中好笑有趣的部分給其他人,更是希望做
一個記錄讓朋友或者自己事後能夠在技術方面更近一步,殊不知竟被拿來做八卦的題材實
在榮幸,也感謝有這次機會能夠為了日後的論文讓小弟練筆。以上還請各位理性討論。
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Nightfall RL委託將事實還原,若有文字不順或用字不佳之處還請見諒。
首先,關於Nightfall,我們是由一群3.0就認識及7.0的一些團員所組成,然而若是用心
調查就可以知道,嗣音、Nocbrew、弗蘿倫絲皆為在達薩亞洛開放前招募的團員,所以原
文中所提到的包庇親友這件事是完全扭曲事實,以下附圖為證
https://imgur.com/a/ObGUCPa
下圖為第一次參加活動的記錄
https://imgur.com/a/ef2yo2t
可以看到嗣音只提早弗蘿倫絲18天進入工會,達薩亞洛開放則是01.24,何來親友之說?
再來回應H珍娜越權指揮一事。確實那天拓荒時嗣音因為指揮不熟悉戰術而下達了錯誤的
戰術,所以在戰鬥途中直接指出應該先打水元素而非救人,在這件事情上團隊幹部與嗣音
進行討論與了解之後也達成了雙方的共識即盡可能不要在戰鬥中隨意發言破壞指揮,但是
還是希望嗣音之後能夠繼續為團隊點出問題所在。對於原文中的數度失控、亂抓戰犯等指
控,團隊認為並無此事,然因實況記錄無法進行較長時間的保存所以也無從提供證據證明
,遂不進行說明。下圖為公告截圖:
https://imgur.com/a/Bbu16Sk
再來DK坦的問題,團隊一直以來都認為後補人員應該有一定的實力在上場幾次嘗試後便能
做到相應的戰術,所以會讓沒有拿過成就的團員進來練習及嘗試,然而當週的狀況則是無
法在一天的時間內順利農完1-6,所以在週六臨近散團一個小時的時候開始有團員認為應
該把更多的時間花在工匠而非卡在神王。敝團活動時間一周只有6.5hr,若在農的階段就
花費太多時間則需要大量練習的工匠將沒有時間可用。這時就有團員提出將筆者與滾床單
進行交換,同時讓滾床單用DD在副本內觀察學習坦克戰術。團隊至始至終沒有將滾床單踢
出團隊的意思,一下為團長的回應:
滾床單事發當天出團結束後有再上線,跟我表明他要退團的意願。這邊的部分我並沒有截
圖,因為並沒有想到會被其他團員當作抓馬的材料。收到消息的當下考慮他心情尚未平復
,所以也有進行挽留的動作。當時我印象中他給我的回覆是大概是,「不了,就這樣吧」
之類的回覆,所以在我個人的解讀中是已經下了決定要退團,所以跟弗蘿倫絲口中講到「
被踢出團隊」是完全不同的事情。在這之後滾床單(圖中的雙子寶寶)也有密語提到關於
中途退團一事感到抱歉,我的當下的認知是他基於責任感提出如果團隊有需求可以收他回
來,也因為這樣我不希望他是在這樣的情況下玩遊戲,所以希望他能夠找到更適合的環境
https://imgur.com/a/YHNoKg5
關於實況嘴隊友一事,團隊一直覺得這就是私人恩怨,但對於死亡率的指控還請拿出數據
說話。
https://imgur.com/a/edmp2V8
上圖為取本週首推大工匠時的出團記錄作為樣本(n=19,8,11,從左至右),統計了拓荒時
(包括首推)時的存活率,可以很明顯的看到週五週六時弗蘿倫絲的存活率一直在90%以
下,到了週日才有所起色,而嗣音從週五開始即維持這一定的生存率更是在週日的時候幾
乎走完了正常戰鬥。原文中所謂“介於中間”不知道從何得來?我們再來看看承受傷害。
https://imgur.com/a/xPwUxWO
上圖可以發現弗蘿倫絲在拓荒過程中承受的傷害可以一直保持在DPS的前三名,不禁讓人
好奇是什麼原因。筆者與團隊內的術士了解到在工匠的戰鬥中可以利用攻擊小機器人來賺
取更多能量,所以筆者過濾了其他傷害來源了解狀況(這部分筆者並非術士玩家,若有錯
誤還請指正)。
https://imgur.com/a/arRHGoA
https://imgur.com/a/qMnpN8t
https://imgur.com/a/kv42YM9
可以發現弗蘿倫絲承受了比其他人都高的反射傷害,理論上應該能夠打出漂亮的DPS了吧?
https://imgur.com/a/x66aqFc
https://imgur.com/a/bXzs8eR
https://imgur.com/a/LtHEOZE
數據證明能量偷得比別人兇然而同樣毀滅卻又打不過同團的術士,死亡率又比別人高。當
然也有可能只是技能不小心打到也說不定。
我們再來看看嗣音的數據
https://imgur.com/a/8xUXUAk
https://imgur.com/a/kieHVjR
https://imgur.com/a/PgeSR8e
打過M7都知道德魯伊的重要性,當時團隊只有兩隻德魯伊其中一隻還是補德狀況下要能夠
繼續進行控場的同時維持治療量,不知道各位看官覺得這位“女”補如何呢?
至於煽動部分,還請各位看以下截圖
https://imgur.com/a/5Prmq3s
https://imgur.com/a/QATiUhJ
https://imgur.com/a/3ENY22w
https://imgur.com/a/J6iyj1c
https://imgur.com/a/2GsJRmn
https://imgur.com/a/dEaHRHc
https://imgur.com/a/f8V3jOg
以下為團長針對這部分做的回應:
有關弗蘿倫絲很在意的抹黑,公告中敘述她的行為的用詞(她已經很熱心地幫我轉貼),完
全都是依照她私底下密其他團員A的用詞。公告中我有提到弗蘿倫絲開始私底下聯繫團員
1. 詢問下版跟團的意願
2. 表達自己不打算繼續跟團
3. 表達了自己對團隊的不滿,
4. 影射她不滿的團員
5. 告訴A她認為團隊的風氣漸漸的被她不滿的團員帶壞
以上的幾點敘述都可以在截圖1-5的內容看到,因為這樣的行為她已經開始私底下在團隊
的背後開始煽動團員,我不知道其他團隊在得知有團員在背後用以偏概全的方式(床單的
事情)說團員的壞話之後會用什麼方式處理,但是在團隊幹部的考量是顧慮到了既然今天
我們已經得知她在我們背後有這樣的行為,即使跟她溝通她說不會再犯我們也無法信任她
的說詞,既然無法信任,所以在經過將近3天的討論後取得共識長痛不如短痛將她退團。
截圖6中是經過A的要求將他前團長的名稱去除因為他不想要風向被帶太遠,但是經過A點
出後我發現當A說他前團才真的凶的時候,弗蘿倫絲因為知道A之前待過的團隊/公會,她
的馬上回應是點名A的前團長(紅色部分)。因為這樣A只好繼續釐清是更早之前公會(黃色
部分),而非前團長。這部分之前都跟團隊無關所以公告中沒有出現,當時也並沒有打算
將弗蘿倫絲私底下的密語截圖公開,但是既然她選擇在沒有這些資訊的情況下說我們是在
抹黑她,我也只能在取得團員A的許可下將密語的內容公開,反正也沒什麼好影藏的。這
邊我之所以會特別提出是因為這段對話是讓我認清弗蘿倫絲的為人的資訊之一,在得知團
員A說他前團隊更兇的馬上回應是試圖在A的前團長背後毀謗他的名聲,但是被A即時制止
,也是A要求我將他前團長及公會的名稱去除的原因,因為他不想要牽扯到他們。A的考量
很明顯的並不是弗蘿倫絲的優先考量,也清楚的告訴我她的為人。 截圖7的內容原本也屬
於私人恩怨所以在公告中並沒有回應,是她在私底下不斷地攻擊某某小D的言語。
==============================================================================
以上為團隊做的相關回應,再來為筆者註:
半夜看完復仇者聯盟就被告知上PTT了,拜讀完原文後發現實在非常有趣遂起了將整
個過程還原。還原過程中越發無法理解原PO的所思所想,不知道您是因為同為女生卻不僅
技不如人又沒聲望還是因為嗣音跟風叫阿姨您不爽了呢?我與嗣音自達薩開始就會以實況
的方式記錄遊戲歷程,不僅是想要分享遊戲過程中好笑有趣的部分給其他人,更是希望做
一個記錄讓朋友或者自己事後能夠在技術方面更近一步,殊不知竟被拿來做八卦的題材實
在榮幸,也感謝有這次機會能夠為了日後的論文讓小弟練筆。以上還請各位理性討論。
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