為什麼會有G團不能開荒的講法 ? - WOW

By Anthony
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at 2020-07-24T00:28
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※ 引述《weliche (時雨)》之銘言:
: 最近經典都在準備P5階段的TAQ 各種刷自抗、準備術士坦
: 常常看到因為DKP、EP/GP G團 因為招人關係在吵架
: 基本上沒重算的 很多人連問下去都懶
: 結果有人生氣就說 : 我看你們G團開荒的時候 怎麼凝聚團員/怎麼招人
: 基本上我個人也是G團的擁護者 MC、BWL 公會一路走來也沒出現什麼制度上的問題
: BWL可能因為下修 除了第一禮拜打得比較久(不過也是第一周全通) 第二個禮拜就
: 開始體會到便當味了
: 完全沒辦法體會 也不止一個人這樣說 想問這是什麼情況 ?
前陣子NGA有篇文章,在吵克蘇恩到底多簡單
正方意見呢認為十年下來更難的王多了去了,克蘇恩就是點擊就送
反方意見呢認為當年正紅的時候一堆高手都打的辛苦了,懷舊服一堆休閒心態的能多順
OK,其實都沒講到重點。我認為最關鍵的三點:
第一是UI等工具的提升,現在早就不只是DBM提醒而已,
包括重播、關鍵戰鬥紀錄,大幅提高了除錯的效率
沒有這些工具的時候,可能一晚滅了十把還不見得能抓出是誰沒做好份內工作
第二是生產模式革新,以前是dkp農業社會,一團掉落就那麼多
自給自足大家慢慢等,手黑開不到就吃屎。
G團出來以後,只要手上有G,大可以出去買,錢砸下去那可是N團的掉落供應一團人
堆裝速度至少是以前三倍
第三,也是最重要的,上面第一第二點的差距可不是從TAQ開門才開始,
而是從ZG第一隻王就開始工業社會和農業社會生產力差距的積累
以前TAQ開門,一團裡面可能主力半套BIS,中間團員一件奈淚就很屌了,平均3件BIS左右
現在主力團員隨便也全滿頂多缺1~2件,中間團員半套以上,平均8~9件BIS
這個差距就會在處理王的時候形成決定性的差距
裝備好了,觸手出來,主力團員扣招轉火一套搞定,你只要大概5個人顧基本上穩了
裝備不好可不是這樣了,觸手出來,主力團員扣招轉火一套,抱歉還有30%
強迫全團人陪公子練功,練到最廢的底逼兒終於肯移駕過來打他老大的那5%才能過
不然就是滾雪球吃屎吃到你主力團員農到夠力,也不知道要幾個月
說實在DKP這種公會私鑄的劣幣,最大的先天限制就是貨幣流通性太差
流通差資源使用效率就低,連帶要踢個廢物也要吵半天,還不夠煩的呢
G團只有捨不捨得花錢而已,包袱少很多
--
聽好了,你在想這些無聊事的時候,時間正一刻一刻地從我們身旁流過...
這些流過的時間不只是你的生命,也是我的生命啊!
── 炎尾燃
--
: 最近經典都在準備P5階段的TAQ 各種刷自抗、準備術士坦
: 常常看到因為DKP、EP/GP G團 因為招人關係在吵架
: 基本上沒重算的 很多人連問下去都懶
: 結果有人生氣就說 : 我看你們G團開荒的時候 怎麼凝聚團員/怎麼招人
: 基本上我個人也是G團的擁護者 MC、BWL 公會一路走來也沒出現什麼制度上的問題
: BWL可能因為下修 除了第一禮拜打得比較久(不過也是第一周全通) 第二個禮拜就
: 開始體會到便當味了
: 完全沒辦法體會 也不止一個人這樣說 想問這是什麼情況 ?
前陣子NGA有篇文章,在吵克蘇恩到底多簡單
正方意見呢認為十年下來更難的王多了去了,克蘇恩就是點擊就送
反方意見呢認為當年正紅的時候一堆高手都打的辛苦了,懷舊服一堆休閒心態的能多順
OK,其實都沒講到重點。我認為最關鍵的三點:
第一是UI等工具的提升,現在早就不只是DBM提醒而已,
包括重播、關鍵戰鬥紀錄,大幅提高了除錯的效率
沒有這些工具的時候,可能一晚滅了十把還不見得能抓出是誰沒做好份內工作
第二是生產模式革新,以前是dkp農業社會,一團掉落就那麼多
自給自足大家慢慢等,手黑開不到就吃屎。
G團出來以後,只要手上有G,大可以出去買,錢砸下去那可是N團的掉落供應一團人
堆裝速度至少是以前三倍
第三,也是最重要的,上面第一第二點的差距可不是從TAQ開門才開始,
而是從ZG第一隻王就開始工業社會和農業社會生產力差距的積累
以前TAQ開門,一團裡面可能主力半套BIS,中間團員一件奈淚就很屌了,平均3件BIS左右
現在主力團員隨便也全滿頂多缺1~2件,中間團員半套以上,平均8~9件BIS
這個差距就會在處理王的時候形成決定性的差距
裝備好了,觸手出來,主力團員扣招轉火一套搞定,你只要大概5個人顧基本上穩了
裝備不好可不是這樣了,觸手出來,主力團員扣招轉火一套,抱歉還有30%
強迫全團人陪公子練功,練到最廢的底逼兒終於肯移駕過來打他老大的那5%才能過
不然就是滾雪球吃屎吃到你主力團員農到夠力,也不知道要幾個月
說實在DKP這種公會私鑄的劣幣,最大的先天限制就是貨幣流通性太差
流通差資源使用效率就低,連帶要踢個廢物也要吵半天,還不夠煩的呢
G團只有捨不捨得花錢而已,包袱少很多
--
聽好了,你在想這些無聊事的時候,時間正一刻一刻地從我們身旁流過...
這些流過的時間不只是你的生命,也是我的生命啊!
── 炎尾燃
--
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