本次major小組賽心得&半決賽看法 - Steam

By John
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小組賽打完了,本屆的瑞士制真的是造成無數爆冷跟Drama
個人其實很喜歡瑞士制的概念,但現在有點疲乏了(連續多少大賽用了=_=
剛好休息一天,版上又很少有對CSGO隊伍的閒聊討論,就想說來分享一下小組還有半決賽
的心得
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首先是3-0的兩組
先是Gambit
其實這隊的實力在Zeus加入帶領下真的很有水準,AdreN和Hobbit表現很亮眼
Zeus補強了隊伍的戰術層面,為人詬病的槍不夠硬最近也很有起色
他打贏的三場(VP、G2、mouse)我都不覺得很意外,因為他們本來就有那個潛力
mouse這個大賽打得不好,但畢竟這個隊伍還有人缺乏大賽經驗
不過把G2打成16-6我就覺得很意外了,但那基本上是G2的問題,等等聊到G2再說(他們問
題我覺得蠻大的...)
整體來說跟一線隊伍還是有差距,但隊伍是往好的方向在發展的,也足夠穩定
可惜半決賽打fnc勝敗的決定應該不在Gambit手上,是看fnc能不能有好的、正常的發揮
個人覺得fnc六四Gambit
再來是BIG
好吧,雖然關於用BUG的爭議很大,但其實他們的T打得真的很不錯
也是一隻戰術著重的隊伍,值得關注的是tabseN,看起來有幾分明日之星的樣子
目前只知道他們inferno是強圖,不打mirage,剩下的就看能不能在bo3打贏imt了
雖然他們在BO1中打贏FaZe和SK,但FaZe這次狀況奇差無比,更不用說他們abuse蹲跳了
和SK打的那場拿了上下兩局的手槍局還是打到30局(還偷用了一下bug
我不認為他們可以在BO3中打贏imt,要知道imt的inferno也是很強的
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3-1
Astralis
除了虐了G2一場,被SK(應該說coldzera)虐一場,剩下贏的兩場(imt、fnc)比分都很接近
但應該不是因為他們變弱而是其他隊伍真的都變強了,我還覺得他們發揮的挺穩定的
不過感覺他們和ECS時沒有什麼不同,也有可能有藏招
半決賽直接打SK=_=,個人覺得應該很難贏,論戰術SK未必輸,論火力怎麼看都是SK猛
dev1ce要更加發揮才會有希望,如果能夠在狙擊對決上屌虐Fallen那還很有得打
有人說Astralis的時代要結束了,有人說根本沒有開始過,如果他們過的了SK這關,那這
次Major十拿九穩了
North
小組賽打輸C9,苦戰打贏VP和mouse,其實North的實力這樣看蠻明確的
雖然離前面幾支隊伍還有一段距離,但他們的爆發力還是不容小覷
個人認為他們成功的關鍵其實在於aizy,因為說真的今年他的表現差強人意
如果他能夠站出來就能夠像打贏VP那場一樣,甚至對前段班早成很大的威脅
半決賽對上VP...我其實真的看不太懂VP現在的實力如何,但理論上還是North勝利高一些
SK
其實SK在各大比賽的小組賽階段都表現的不是很完美,尤其瑞士制更多不確定因素
好在這次Major的小組賽Coldzera跟最後一場的felps凱瑞了整個隊伍
BO3是SK的強項,還記得ECS的最後一天先讓一追二Ast再讓一追二Faze,真的看到傻眼
現在Faze跟G2又已經出局,理論上除了Astralis應該沒有對手了
可能VP或fnc可以威脅到SK,但只要SK不失常,冠軍應該不難
對了還有FalleN要一掃小組賽的頹勢找回前幾次大賽的身手才行,他和dev1ce的對決還有
Xyp9x對上coldzera將會是看點
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3-2
Virtus.pro
其實VP的打法看起來跟科隆賽的時候差不多
就只是每個人都變準了,難道真的有到了Major就爆氣的神奇buff?
這也讓我越來越搞不懂VP的實力到底如何
因為VP不應該是單純靠槍法的隊伍,但這幾場和科隆小組賽比較起來就真的好像他們突然
多了股莫名的自信,對槍猛了很多,而場中的決策也同樣還是有點落鏈的感覺
不過如果他們能夠一直硬下去還真的很有可能打贏North直衝總決賽,但我不認為他們打得
贏Ast或SK
不管怎樣VP的傳奇席位又再繼續延續下去XD
fnatic
真的看得出他們的改變,從本來的單兵注重到現在多了很多進攻和防守的set,只是他們好
像還不太能得心應手的CALL出來
給人一種「fnatic硬要去做set」而不是「fnatic的set」的感覺
如果他們能夠把自己本來的風格融合到他們想發展的戰術體系下那他們將又是一隻很可怕
的隊伍
還要能夠改善隊伍太吃風向的問題,順風時每個都猛的跟鬼一樣,一旦陷入逆風又什麼都
打不出來
不凸槌的話很看好他們打贏Gambit,但很可惜他們在半決賽不是打SK就是打Astralis...
儘管這隊的天花板很高但目前還是差這兩隊一截
Immortals
剛把Fnx換掉就可以取得這麼亮眼的成績真的出乎意料,只是這一隊的缺點還是有點明顯
T的打法稍嫌單調CT又太倚賴雙狙,不過一旦讓他們進入自己的Zone那可能連SK都擋不住
以他們第一次殺入Major的表現來說現在已經及格了,看能走多遠是多遠
打BIG應該不成問題,我甚至覺得他們蠻有機會殺進決賽的,看到時候North或VP對imt的針
對做得如何
因為他們爆發起來真的很可怕,只是穩定性欠佳
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淘汰區
我只想要講兩隊,沒錯就是FaZe和G2
FaZe的0-3大概是本年度最讓人跌破眼鏡的結果,但我並不會很擔心他們
因為他們應該只是單純狀態真的不好罷了,Kio骰到problem那面、allu骰到bot那面、
karrigan化身為只剩entry死後報位的敵方位置形探測器
因為那幾場比賽該有的轉點、補防都算是有,只是溝通好像有點不良加上Niko和Rain無法
爆氣到力挽狂瀾的程度
重點是他們的entry和被entry基本上都是虧的,對槍也不知道哪裡出了問題一直輸,狀況
不好誰都會有,Faze很不巧的發生在這最重要的時候...
至於G2..不久前意氣風發地打贏SK拿下EPL冠軍後,到現在的表現真的讓人大上大大的問號
19-17很艱辛的贏了C9,剩下三場都是大比分輸掉(ast.fnc.Gambit),ECS八強出局、科隆
賽0-2輸給navi
他們輸掉的局看起來都一樣無力,看起來實在不是有默契、有化學效應的隊伍
我知道他們本來就是很靠槍法的隊伍,靠著槍剛加上KennyS的狙擊,火力堪稱一絕
但他們的場中決策和Call真的讓人摸不著頭緒,就拿小組賽最後兩場來說好了
inferno CT不去搶Banana,放個KennyS一個人在中路,被閃光逼一下就回點甚至轉點,造
成地圖資訊幾乎是零,每次都是靠在點上二打五或三打五沒成功再寄望殘局能夠retake
所以常常看到Kenny不是單純架狙在點上就是拿著狙很艱難的去retake打殘局,完全沒有發
揮他該有的價值
再來打fnatic的overpass,inferno的那種問題還是在,加上不知道是不是因為發現槍對不
贏,他們的CT常常在剩下幾十秒的時候,在完全沒有資訊的狀況下選擇把所有人叫去同一
個點上,賭對方會來打
然後他們當T的時候也都只是讓KennyS去等JW之類的來推,然後等一陣子後爆團打某個點
,KennyS不是沒做事就是隊友都死光了沒辦法做事,但他們不是應該圍繞著他來設計戰術
嗎?
最後是Shox,自從他當主CALL後,原本那個步槍準、狙擊穩、很會打破口殘局更神的shox
好像不見了,不是說他爛到哪去,只是感覺他原本的光芒都沒了
隊伍中偶爾回有人醒來拯救一下比分,但整體來說給人一種很沒默契、各打各的、有IGL
的五排路人的感覺
我覺得應該要換個caller或是換個教練或是有人試學著當support之類的
現在看起來就是五個全明星湊在一起結果反而什麼都打不出來(沒錯,就是湖人)
畢竟純靠單兵剛槍的打法有時會有效,但還是走不遠的...
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