最後生還者2破關小記(雷,文長) - PS
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※ 引述《ThisisLongID (長哀滴)》之銘言:
: 1輪玩完結局時 我自己也是覺得艾莉有夠慘
: 但看一些討論還有2輪花比較多時間思索艾莉日記後 反而覺得結局沒那麼晦暗
本來也想寫篇心得 但因為這代太複雜最後作罷
二代的劇情編排對我來說很有趣, 僅在於有趣, 好惡來說大概一半一半
他有很多東西是第一輪玩家無法理解的, 甚至你要做個影片分析都很困難
例如遊戲一開始的劇情會討論到前一天夜晚, 通常玩家剛開始不會放在心上
到喬爾死亡以後返回他家, 看著桌上的陶杯, 看著恐龍博物館的介紹手冊
並且打開日記看到艾利心理的說法, 他不會忘記對喬爾許下的承諾
什麼承諾?
這一切當下都是看不懂的, 玩家被強迫用旁觀者的視點去推敲角色的心理
到全破的時候才告訴妳前一天晚上發生什麼事情
重玩第二輪的時候, 重返喬爾家拿起陶杯
但此時不管是喜歡或是討厭這作品的人,看到這個陶杯,感觸跟第一輪體驗到的絕對不一樣
不管你是更加想了解這作品, 還是感受到更多不舒服的感覺,但體驗跟第一輪多少會不同
艾莉始終是一代那個滿嘴FUCK的屁孩, 而他也同樣深愛著像父親的喬爾
探索自我存在價值的很複雜, 而愛是一個很難掌握的東西
即便自己很愛對方,但仍舊不懂對方想法
愛莉把喬爾當成是重要的親人, 喬爾不該替這樣的自己犧牲他人, 背負這麼多仇恨
這份感情的矛盾一直存在於遊戲,透過日記和閃回多少可以感受
試圖原諒喬爾, 其實就是接納喬爾的沉重的愛
所以喬爾當下聽到有點感動到眼眶泛淚(遊戲這邊細節有做出來)
不過吼,講得出來的瞬間其實艾莉心理也早就認同了
即便認為自己如此的毫無價值, 但是在別人的心中卻是如此有份量
這段講白一點就是艾莉耍傲嬌,但我覺得整個遊戲的氛圍似乎不適合這樣說
這個其實算是衍生自一代+DLC的消極態度
艾比之間的故事, 看論壇蠻多人覺得噁心, 但我解讀是這樣
最後艾比為了保護列夫和艾莉一戰, 跟喬爾是一種對比
列夫和艾比出生入死過, 同樣旅行數年,也是培養深厚的感情
對艾比(喬爾)來說, 他沒有選擇,他不可能放下列夫(艾莉)去死
要看懂這段就要先試圖理解官方設定下的艾利是怎麼看待喬爾的
即便理解, 可能還是有人會有滿滿噁心人的感覺
但艾比和當年喬爾一樣,都是為了救人不惜犧牲自己, 艾利想殺的不是這樣的艾比
應該是更加暴力,殘虐, 把喬爾虐死的艾比, 就跟他PTSD腦海中的那個一樣
通過他和艾比兩人肉體一番交纏之後, 艾莉閃回的卻是慈祥的喬爾
在艾比看到了喬爾的影子
這段戰鬥, 無聊的人可以用拍照模式觀察艾莉的表情
哀傷大於憤怒
我覺得難做的原因是在於, 艾利並沒有當年醫院那段記憶,要對比不能閃回那段
玩家要從最終決戰發現這其實跟當年醫院手術的事件有一點類似
但...說真的,Neil有確定玩家有辦法跟上嗎?
不可能巴, 閃回當下只給玩家一個瞬間畫面, 說真的誰能腦補?
又或是打到一半誰會去看艾莉的表情, 有這些細節是很好, 但是你有病嗎?
所以當艾比等人離開後, 艾莉只是冷冷地坐在海邊, 那是一個寂寞和感傷的樣子
所以艾莉有原諒艾比嗎? 我覺得沒有, 但是他原諒了喬爾
恩, 因為最後艾莉才算是接納喬爾給他的沉重的愛
然後和故事一開始日記描述寫下的誓言又互相對照, 完成了這趟旅程
= = = = = = = = = = = = =
二代的故事表現是一個拼圖, 官方試圖非線性的鋪成, 讓玩家自己去推敲角色的心理狀態
例如談談狄娜和艾莉的故事, 艾莉暗戀狄娜的時間至少超過三年
三年前喬爾一直以為艾莉戀愛了, 但喬爾誤會成是狄娜旁邊的傑西
又或是開場對艾利道歉的賽斯,他的個人故事描寫甚少
但是從艾比篇卻可以看到他是一家四口的男人
巡山人日記的描述, 當初救回來的人有可能就是他, 最後只剩下兩人活著
加上他逃難過程還是妻子還是死了, 讓他酒醉後難免有點情緒
像這種反而是比較簡單的部分
同樣的
追尋艾利的心路歷程是很困難的, 你越是不斷的去挖掘對話
你都能發現官方試圖在透過各種方式去完善二代的世界觀
要把這些細節全部都吞下去, 而不透過大量文字的表現
而且暴力元素和愛的描寫上
二代顯然是太過暴力,而且暴力又直白單純
但是對於愛的表現卻太過低調, 充滿著各種零碎的拼圖要讓人在體驗大量暴力中探求
我們始終不是艾莉,即便官方要設定並操作玩家的情緒
玩家仍舊沒辦法完美的帶入這個情感, 最後可能感受到的反而是故事對自己情感的背叛
最後生還者2的剪輯手法基本上和2000年的電影 記憶拼圖的描述手法是有點類似的
但最後生還者2一開始就拉高仇恨以後, 玩家是否會願意完成這段記憶的追尋之旅?
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: 1輪玩完結局時 我自己也是覺得艾莉有夠慘
: 但看一些討論還有2輪花比較多時間思索艾莉日記後 反而覺得結局沒那麼晦暗
本來也想寫篇心得 但因為這代太複雜最後作罷
二代的劇情編排對我來說很有趣, 僅在於有趣, 好惡來說大概一半一半
他有很多東西是第一輪玩家無法理解的, 甚至你要做個影片分析都很困難
例如遊戲一開始的劇情會討論到前一天夜晚, 通常玩家剛開始不會放在心上
到喬爾死亡以後返回他家, 看著桌上的陶杯, 看著恐龍博物館的介紹手冊
並且打開日記看到艾利心理的說法, 他不會忘記對喬爾許下的承諾
什麼承諾?
這一切當下都是看不懂的, 玩家被強迫用旁觀者的視點去推敲角色的心理
到全破的時候才告訴妳前一天晚上發生什麼事情
重玩第二輪的時候, 重返喬爾家拿起陶杯
但此時不管是喜歡或是討厭這作品的人,看到這個陶杯,感觸跟第一輪體驗到的絕對不一樣
不管你是更加想了解這作品, 還是感受到更多不舒服的感覺,但體驗跟第一輪多少會不同
艾莉始終是一代那個滿嘴FUCK的屁孩, 而他也同樣深愛著像父親的喬爾
探索自我存在價值的很複雜, 而愛是一個很難掌握的東西
即便自己很愛對方,但仍舊不懂對方想法
愛莉把喬爾當成是重要的親人, 喬爾不該替這樣的自己犧牲他人, 背負這麼多仇恨
這份感情的矛盾一直存在於遊戲,透過日記和閃回多少可以感受
試圖原諒喬爾, 其實就是接納喬爾的沉重的愛
所以喬爾當下聽到有點感動到眼眶泛淚(遊戲這邊細節有做出來)
不過吼,講得出來的瞬間其實艾莉心理也早就認同了
即便認為自己如此的毫無價值, 但是在別人的心中卻是如此有份量
這段講白一點就是艾莉耍傲嬌,但我覺得整個遊戲的氛圍似乎不適合這樣說
這個其實算是衍生自一代+DLC的消極態度
艾比之間的故事, 看論壇蠻多人覺得噁心, 但我解讀是這樣
最後艾比為了保護列夫和艾莉一戰, 跟喬爾是一種對比
列夫和艾比出生入死過, 同樣旅行數年,也是培養深厚的感情
對艾比(喬爾)來說, 他沒有選擇,他不可能放下列夫(艾莉)去死
要看懂這段就要先試圖理解官方設定下的艾利是怎麼看待喬爾的
即便理解, 可能還是有人會有滿滿噁心人的感覺
但艾比和當年喬爾一樣,都是為了救人不惜犧牲自己, 艾利想殺的不是這樣的艾比
應該是更加暴力,殘虐, 把喬爾虐死的艾比, 就跟他PTSD腦海中的那個一樣
通過他和艾比兩人肉體一番交纏之後, 艾莉閃回的卻是慈祥的喬爾
在艾比看到了喬爾的影子
這段戰鬥, 無聊的人可以用拍照模式觀察艾莉的表情
哀傷大於憤怒
我覺得難做的原因是在於, 艾利並沒有當年醫院那段記憶,要對比不能閃回那段
玩家要從最終決戰發現這其實跟當年醫院手術的事件有一點類似
但...說真的,Neil有確定玩家有辦法跟上嗎?
不可能巴, 閃回當下只給玩家一個瞬間畫面, 說真的誰能腦補?
又或是打到一半誰會去看艾莉的表情, 有這些細節是很好, 但是你有病嗎?
所以當艾比等人離開後, 艾莉只是冷冷地坐在海邊, 那是一個寂寞和感傷的樣子
所以艾莉有原諒艾比嗎? 我覺得沒有, 但是他原諒了喬爾
恩, 因為最後艾莉才算是接納喬爾給他的沉重的愛
然後和故事一開始日記描述寫下的誓言又互相對照, 完成了這趟旅程
= = = = = = = = = = = = =
二代的故事表現是一個拼圖, 官方試圖非線性的鋪成, 讓玩家自己去推敲角色的心理狀態
例如談談狄娜和艾莉的故事, 艾莉暗戀狄娜的時間至少超過三年
三年前喬爾一直以為艾莉戀愛了, 但喬爾誤會成是狄娜旁邊的傑西
又或是開場對艾利道歉的賽斯,他的個人故事描寫甚少
但是從艾比篇卻可以看到他是一家四口的男人
巡山人日記的描述, 當初救回來的人有可能就是他, 最後只剩下兩人活著
加上他逃難過程還是妻子還是死了, 讓他酒醉後難免有點情緒
像這種反而是比較簡單的部分
同樣的
追尋艾利的心路歷程是很困難的, 你越是不斷的去挖掘對話
你都能發現官方試圖在透過各種方式去完善二代的世界觀
要把這些細節全部都吞下去, 而不透過大量文字的表現
而且暴力元素和愛的描寫上
二代顯然是太過暴力,而且暴力又直白單純
但是對於愛的表現卻太過低調, 充滿著各種零碎的拼圖要讓人在體驗大量暴力中探求
我們始終不是艾莉,即便官方要設定並操作玩家的情緒
玩家仍舊沒辦法完美的帶入這個情感, 最後可能感受到的反而是故事對自己情感的背叛
最後生還者2的剪輯手法基本上和2000年的電影 記憶拼圖的描述手法是有點類似的
但最後生還者2一開始就拉高仇恨以後, 玩家是否會願意完成這段記憶的追尋之旅?
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