最後生還者2 高爾夫合理度(大雷) - PS
By Tracy
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※ 引述《Yuiwa1996 (黑貓紳士)》之銘言:
: (先打個預防針,不是針對你,只是這個護航的論點很多人講,引用只是方便舉例。)
: 說真的,我不是很懂。
: 【過了3、4年溫馨愜意的生活】→【忘掉前20年的生存經驗】
: 這個邏輯是怎麼鏈接起來的?
: 一個優秀老練的獵人,會因為退休幾年,就退化成連進山裡要注意什麼問題都不懂的菜鳥嗎
: ?
[恕刪]
我之前就 po 過喬爾劇情的逐字稿,但這幾天的討論,
有一些文章確實已經知道正確的劇情,但多數人好像
根本沒有看,還是堅持什麼喬爾自爆身份之類的。
正確的劇情流程不去理,一大堆人或雲玩家還是拿著
錯誤資訊討論以訛傳訛,要雲劇情也看完整一點好嗎?
我用網路影片來介紹,深入討論一下喬爾中計的過程。
一、喬爾為什麼會被知道身份
二、他怎麼會走位到房間之中
三、艾比一夥為什麼放過湯米艾莉
一、
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMJw0wE2y7c#t=1h07m51s
1:07:51 湯米對艾比
湯米:Hey. I'm Tommy. That's Joel.
1:13:38 湯米對艾比一行人
湯米:Tommy. This is my brother.
喬爾:Joel.(語氣還遲疑一下)
基本上都是湯米在自我介紹就對了。早在前面湯米就把喬爾名字
講出來了。第二次湯米再多介紹一次,喬爾非常小心,但早就
被艾比知道姓名,不可能再亂講。只能附和湯米。
結論是喬爾沒有自爆姓名,早就被湯米講出來了。
二、
喬爾在房間中計,其實不是被包圍而造成戰鬥的劣勢。
而是上面一點提到的,艾比一知道身份,就直接先衝
進房間內找尋槍枝,艾比早就準備偷襲。喬爾是被艾
比突襲而倒下。不是被包圍而不敵對手。
至於站位的部分,喬爾在遇到艾比一行人,實際上他
被包夾了整整三次。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMJw0wE2y7c#t=1h12m37s
在室外被艾比同夥前後包夾 1:12:37
在車庫被其他人包圍住 1:12:50
在房間走進去被包住 1:13:20
前兩次被包夾,完全沒有人表現出不良意圖,因此喬爾
實際上可以先初步判斷艾比同黨沒有敵意。才會敢在房
間中間談話。
真的有了解完整劇情,從玩家的角度來看,實際上
艾比等人也不會去攻擊一般的傑克森市居民。
歐文一開始就提到很難去打聽消息,因此只要是傑
克森市隨意來兩個人,艾比一行人根本不會動手,
反而會用救命的人情來套交情,設法潛入傑克森市。
現在喬爾和湯米被攻擊,完全是因為湯米說漏嘴。
導致艾比預謀的偷襲成功。喬爾和湯米幾乎不可能
想到艾比居然是對頭,而且喬爾已經被包兩次也未
發覺敵意,因此他在房間的站位談不上有失策。
三、
上面的影片後續可以看到,其實艾比一黨分成兩派,
一派是要解決掉剩下的艾莉、湯米,一派是以歐文為首
力勸不要開槍。
歐文的態度則是在一開始遊戲就可以看到了。他發現
了傑克森市有成千上萬的武裝市民,他早就嚇到要逃命,
他的邏輯大概是越多人掛掉,喬爾一人掛點,和喬、湯、
艾同時掛點引來的風險來比較傑克森市反擊的可能性
就越大,基本想法還是合理 所以才會阻止繼續開槍
射擊。
三個議題都講完了。喬爾的演出仍是小心,沒有違背
設定。當然可以說這個劇情很做作,但整個流程是有
前後呼應,也有它合理性。
--
: (先打個預防針,不是針對你,只是這個護航的論點很多人講,引用只是方便舉例。)
: 說真的,我不是很懂。
: 【過了3、4年溫馨愜意的生活】→【忘掉前20年的生存經驗】
: 這個邏輯是怎麼鏈接起來的?
: 一個優秀老練的獵人,會因為退休幾年,就退化成連進山裡要注意什麼問題都不懂的菜鳥嗎
: ?
[恕刪]
我之前就 po 過喬爾劇情的逐字稿,但這幾天的討論,
有一些文章確實已經知道正確的劇情,但多數人好像
根本沒有看,還是堅持什麼喬爾自爆身份之類的。
正確的劇情流程不去理,一大堆人或雲玩家還是拿著
錯誤資訊討論以訛傳訛,要雲劇情也看完整一點好嗎?
我用網路影片來介紹,深入討論一下喬爾中計的過程。
一、喬爾為什麼會被知道身份
二、他怎麼會走位到房間之中
三、艾比一夥為什麼放過湯米艾莉
一、
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMJw0wE2y7c#t=1h07m51s
1:07:51 湯米對艾比
湯米:Hey. I'm Tommy. That's Joel.
1:13:38 湯米對艾比一行人
湯米:Tommy. This is my brother.
喬爾:Joel.(語氣還遲疑一下)
基本上都是湯米在自我介紹就對了。早在前面湯米就把喬爾名字
講出來了。第二次湯米再多介紹一次,喬爾非常小心,但早就
被艾比知道姓名,不可能再亂講。只能附和湯米。
結論是喬爾沒有自爆姓名,早就被湯米講出來了。
二、
喬爾在房間中計,其實不是被包圍而造成戰鬥的劣勢。
而是上面一點提到的,艾比一知道身份,就直接先衝
進房間內找尋槍枝,艾比早就準備偷襲。喬爾是被艾
比突襲而倒下。不是被包圍而不敵對手。
至於站位的部分,喬爾在遇到艾比一行人,實際上他
被包夾了整整三次。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMJw0wE2y7c#t=1h12m37s
在室外被艾比同夥前後包夾 1:12:37
在車庫被其他人包圍住 1:12:50
在房間走進去被包住 1:13:20
前兩次被包夾,完全沒有人表現出不良意圖,因此喬爾
實際上可以先初步判斷艾比同黨沒有敵意。才會敢在房
間中間談話。
真的有了解完整劇情,從玩家的角度來看,實際上
艾比等人也不會去攻擊一般的傑克森市居民。
歐文一開始就提到很難去打聽消息,因此只要是傑
克森市隨意來兩個人,艾比一行人根本不會動手,
反而會用救命的人情來套交情,設法潛入傑克森市。
現在喬爾和湯米被攻擊,完全是因為湯米說漏嘴。
導致艾比預謀的偷襲成功。喬爾和湯米幾乎不可能
想到艾比居然是對頭,而且喬爾已經被包兩次也未
發覺敵意,因此他在房間的站位談不上有失策。
三、
上面的影片後續可以看到,其實艾比一黨分成兩派,
一派是要解決掉剩下的艾莉、湯米,一派是以歐文為首
力勸不要開槍。
歐文的態度則是在一開始遊戲就可以看到了。他發現
了傑克森市有成千上萬的武裝市民,他早就嚇到要逃命,
他的邏輯大概是越多人掛掉,喬爾一人掛點,和喬、湯、
艾同時掛點引來的風險來比較傑克森市反擊的可能性
就越大,基本想法還是合理 所以才會阻止繼續開槍
射擊。
三個議題都講完了。喬爾的演出仍是小心,沒有違背
設定。當然可以說這個劇情很做作,但整個流程是有
前後呼應,也有它合理性。
--
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