暴雪與網易鬧掰,知情人士稱“暴雪想讓 - WOW

By Connor
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Table of Contents
Bloomberg新聞連結
https://tinyurl.com/yphej2jm
"Beyond financial terms, key sticking points to the NetEase extension were
ownership of intellectual property and control of the data of millions of
players across China, people familiar with the discussions said. The people
spoke on condition of anonymity because the talks weren’t public."
除了$$條件以外,網易續約的癥結在於IP和玩家數據的掌控
這個問題一直都是過去中國合作對象的要求
就是他們想要保留有玩家數據,以利於未來的談判或是自己開發產品
但對於Blizzard來說,當初設計出Battle.net就是想把數據抓在自己手上
這也是蠻合理的
反正你們人民想玩會自己翻牆
數據和IP這種東西就是遊戲公司的寶貝
我損失(無法翻牆/不想翻牆)的玩家
但我能保住核心,也不用再被你抽成限制
長遠來看,這對遊戲公司是好的,對玩家也是好的(就算是其他國家的玩家)
法環在中國甚至沒拿到版號,但傳說中國賣最好的PC單機遊戲可能是法環
看起來短期內除非有盤子,不然中國許可/版號一段時間可能都空窗
甚至要等到軟軟爸爸完成併購(歐洲放行)才會有更進一步的動作
※ 引述《VANNN ()》之銘言:
: 以下為內文與標題格式,請依照版本來做調整
: 暴雪與網易鬧掰,知情人士稱“暴雪想讓網易打白工”
: https://reurl.cc/nZZKz8
: 新浪財金(簡)
: 重點
: 1.暴雪遊戲定價將採取全球同步策略,前陸服定價較全球其他地區普遍低約20%
: 2.暴雪要求網易按照《暗黑破壞神:不朽》,研發暴雪其他IP手游全球發行,但網易
: 只享有中國區市場營收分成
: 3.中國《魔獸世界》《星際爭霸II》《爐石傳說》《守望先鋒》等,產品約佔動視暴雪
: 2021年合併淨收入的3%。
: 4.網易2022年二季報顯示,網易遊戲及相關增值服務收入為181億元,增長15.0%
: ============================================================================
: 因為有版權限制,,就不直接轉載了,看來也是錢談不攏加上網易的其它收入不差
: 沒有BZ 的遊戲也可承受吧
: 不過以這種說法看來,未來台服WOW 新版本要花錢買 CDKEY 也是很有可能的事
--
https://tinyurl.com/yphej2jm
"Beyond financial terms, key sticking points to the NetEase extension were
ownership of intellectual property and control of the data of millions of
players across China, people familiar with the discussions said. The people
spoke on condition of anonymity because the talks weren’t public."
除了$$條件以外,網易續約的癥結在於IP和玩家數據的掌控
這個問題一直都是過去中國合作對象的要求
就是他們想要保留有玩家數據,以利於未來的談判或是自己開發產品
但對於Blizzard來說,當初設計出Battle.net就是想把數據抓在自己手上
這也是蠻合理的
反正你們人民想玩會自己翻牆
數據和IP這種東西就是遊戲公司的寶貝
我損失(無法翻牆/不想翻牆)的玩家
但我能保住核心,也不用再被你抽成限制
長遠來看,這對遊戲公司是好的,對玩家也是好的(就算是其他國家的玩家)
法環在中國甚至沒拿到版號,但傳說中國賣最好的PC單機遊戲可能是法環
看起來短期內除非有盤子,不然中國許可/版號一段時間可能都空窗
甚至要等到軟軟爸爸完成併購(歐洲放行)才會有更進一步的動作
※ 引述《VANNN ()》之銘言:
: 以下為內文與標題格式,請依照版本來做調整
: 暴雪與網易鬧掰,知情人士稱“暴雪想讓網易打白工”
: https://reurl.cc/nZZKz8
: 新浪財金(簡)
: 重點
: 1.暴雪遊戲定價將採取全球同步策略,前陸服定價較全球其他地區普遍低約20%
: 2.暴雪要求網易按照《暗黑破壞神:不朽》,研發暴雪其他IP手游全球發行,但網易
: 只享有中國區市場營收分成
: 3.中國《魔獸世界》《星際爭霸II》《爐石傳說》《守望先鋒》等,產品約佔動視暴雪
: 2021年合併淨收入的3%。
: 4.網易2022年二季報顯示,網易遊戲及相關增值服務收入為181億元,增長15.0%
: ============================================================================
: 因為有版權限制,,就不直接轉載了,看來也是錢談不攏加上網易的其它收入不差
: 沒有BZ 的遊戲也可承受吧
: 不過以這種說法看來,未來台服WOW 新版本要花錢買 CDKEY 也是很有可能的事
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By Hedy
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國家不給直營的鍋....但完全沒人抱怨,真是開眼界了

By Ingrid
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笑死,平常實名制什麼都上繳給党當成韭菜的個人訊息,現在
人家要你的遊戲資料而已突然就警覺保護意識了

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死,什麼邏輯,今天又不是跟你要銀行帳號

By Jake
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用信用卡

By Sarah
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講得動暴十惡不赦,就是沒人敢說版號問題XD

By Lauren
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外國入侵

By Necoo
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了 毛一堆 市場再大有啥用

By Jacky
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還不是你們那個神奇的版號

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了的愛國企業,簡直笑破人內褲,看著大型斯德哥爾摩症發作
現場有夠好玩

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By Callum
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不到 結果對岸在噴暴雪 不給版號的是你 不給直營的是
你 不轉移數據的也是你 然後噴暴雪 真的笑死

By Rachel
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By Susan
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後這次都下去了

By Queena
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在過審 但是換帶李就依定要重跑流程

By Linda
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bg 對岸到現在都沒版號 還不是付錢付的很開心

By Erin
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By Annie
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By Barb Cronin
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By Emma
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steam跨區根本就是故意開的後門

By Olga
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By Megan
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By Anthony
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By Brianna
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被暴雪欺負苦大仇深

By Lauren
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By Agatha
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By Olive
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支病

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By Jacky
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餐本來也沒占集團多少比例zz,只看暴雪娛樂的話強國人的營
收有15%左右;一直在那邊3%就是nga那些帶風向的最愛扯的什
麼暴雪割韭菜的說法,明明是被網易割韭菜然後鬼轉成暴雪

By Carolina Franco
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By Charlie
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網易大概就賺翻了

By Anonymous
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身ip的價值。

By Yuri
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By Frederica
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麼好割怎麼其他地區不跟進ㄏ

By Kelly
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麼點,我們愛國企業網易賠錢幫代理你們這垃圾遊戲還敢囂張
;笑死結果這風向帶的連這裡都有人相信

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By Bethany
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挑戰暴雪底線嗎?接下來就是vip買各種服務,商城了,所以才
撕破臉

By Irma
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讓他網易賣鬼靈虎? 這不就第二次拿鬼靈虎收割人?

By Mason
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By Zanna
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很少,暴雪說放中國市場就放?

By Freda
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By Brianna
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By Regina
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暴雪老早就幹過拿鬼靈虎割人韭菜的爛事了 都怪網易割人不
太公允吧

By Erin
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By Thomas
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挺好笑的

By Rebecca
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,哪還有什麼歷史

By Freda
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鬼靈虎序號卡 然後沒多久魔獸卡牌就無預警結束營運

By Heather
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By Puput
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賽跟活動 突然就都沒了 貨都爛在經銷商手裡

By Doris
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By Caitlin
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By Rosalind
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By Frederic
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都要經過它們的同意
不是你想印幾張就印幾張的 它們管得很嚴

By Carolina Franco
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By Agatha
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By Poppy
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可能都是大家同時跟暴雪談不攏吧

By Isabella
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By Oliver
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By Edwina
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一課呢

By Daniel
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在我頭上? 我可沒付你錢幫我發言 你不用那麼熱心 謝謝你

By Franklin
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有什麼關聯就是啦,可能你是想表達這麼邪惡的商法是暴雪教
給網易做的,然後只割這一波要放棄全家餐在中國每年的營收
吧

By Oliver
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By Aaliyah
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By Kristin
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嘛XD

By Andy
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By Doris
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By Kumar
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By Faithe
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老是把一堆我沒有講過的話套在我頭上 你有事嗎

By Tom
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By Lauren
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By Bennie
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地方?

By Caitlin
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By Daph Bay
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By Franklin
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不要只罵網易?

By Iris
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今天手中到暴雪要賣給微軟 動視當然漫天亂喊

By Hardy
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By Kristin
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站在網易的立場 他當然想跟能談的微軟談

By Ethan
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By Ophelia
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By Wallis
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當然割韭菜網易至少要負八成責任

By Jack
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By Emily
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By Donna
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割你們玩家嗎

By Eartha
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By Hedda
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麼暴雪tcg的東西,然後又不准人家說你在用比爛戰法,話都給
你說不就飽了

By Joe
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了這個就是兩方在博弈踩底線的過程,你又不同意,一直說暴
雪以前也有割韭菜的事蹟,那我順著你的邏輯說下去,你又叫
人家看醫生,好兇好怕捏

By Lydia
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?

By Quanna
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By Belly
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你可以質疑我 但是不可以幫我發言 可以嗎

By Kristin
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By Damian
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瘋狂護航網易全部怪暴雪很可笑而已

By Robert
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By Rae
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By Eartha
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By Suhail Hany
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不好,暴雪不是無辜的,我也受不了你啊,還是你又要說這句
話你沒說了,好了啦,暴雪很爛,這樣你滿意了嗎可以下去了

By Bennie
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服時就化身戰狼到處出征

By Mason
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來幹一頓古然後就是希望人家承認暴雪也很爛(當然你又要嘴
硬你沒這個意思),不知道是不是受了什麼刺激那麼激動

By Catherine
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By Enid
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By Rachel
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沒有不准你質疑我提出的東西 但是你一直幫我覺得 我真心認
為你可能需要一些專業的醫療資源的協助

By Joseph
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
去看醫生,心裡問題比較大吧XD

By Daph Bay
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Gilbert
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
叫你去看醫生並不是因為你不同意我的看法好嗎

By David
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Kyle
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
到底鬧夠了沒?

By Madame
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Victoria
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
跟一個開口閉口叫人家看醫生的人解釋太多吧,你一直說暴雪
怎樣怎樣,合力割韭菜的用意大家可以看得出來,當然了你可
以繼續說你沒有明講:)

By Elizabeth
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Hazel
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Agnes
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Rachel
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
航吧?

By Hamiltion
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Tristan Cohan
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By George
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Heather
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Blanche
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
又一副你罵啊沒差的態度,這樣大家跟你很難有共識捏

By Wallis
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Delia
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
網易是主犯吧

By Kama
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Freda
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Daniel
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Leila
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Caroline
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Elma
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
是這樣的(以下略

By Ursula
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Noah
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Andy
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Daph Bay
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
解釋吧 為什麼這麼愛搞一刀切?

By Dinah
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Michael
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
而已,我應該不用像你一樣叫人去看醫生吧

By Annie
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Ula
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Callum
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Kumar
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By Jacky
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Yuri
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
該沒笨到怎樣怎樣吧,真的是很難相處捏

By Bethany
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Delia
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Christine
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Belly
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Zora
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Olga
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Olivia
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Bethany
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Ingrid
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Anonymous
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Dinah
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Oliver
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
的,何不現在護呢?對不對,至少這個比較有種啦,不像上一
個在那裡講半天還要叫人家看醫生

By Valerie
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Quanna
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Sandy
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
網易單方面的作為,但有人很明顯就是不想看到暴雪受批
評啊,提出過去暴雪的不良事件就說是幹古,潛台詞不就
是”這是以前的事情,跟現在的暴雪無關”?過去被暴雪
餵了那麼多屎,到底誰才斯德哥摩爾發作呀?Aren't you
thankful?

By Ingrid
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
而已,但還是謝謝你囉

By Belly
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
要亂把人家沒說過的話代替人家說出來,到這裡又變了o.o 怕
你不知道跟你說一下,這篇一開始都在講nga網民的事情而已,
是到了有個人一直要強調賣幽靈虎割韭菜是暴雪也怎樣怎樣才
變調的,當然你可能只看到中段也不怪你

By Suhail Hany
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
蝗蟲難道是我逼他們的嗎

By Ina
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Victoria
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
點說啊。何況我也不覺得我在扣帽子,你也可以說說看你
怎麼想的咩,至少我看起來你說的內容就是可以這樣解讀
啊

By Skylar Davis
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Olive
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Catherine
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By Liam
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
邊互踩底線最後鬧崩的結果,對岸網民一直帶風向說暴雪好壞
壞網易好愛國我覺得很好笑而已;這樣有什麼很明顯護暴雪的
立場嗎?我是不覺得啦,還是我笑對岸網民很傻,你們看不順
眼?

By Suhail Hany
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40

By Hedy
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
我不買這個單也不行XD

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Anthony
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Hardy
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Una
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
得太深了,只要有風吹草動,沒有帶上暴雪一起噴就不行

By Ida
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Kristin
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Ingrid
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Jack
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Tom
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Frederica
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By Emily
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Tom
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
看醫生

By Suhail Hany
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Ursula
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Isabella
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Wallis
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By Barb Cronin
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Jessica
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
,是有門啦,但裝反了

By Madame
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Margaret
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
挺好笑的

By Joseph
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Megan
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Daniel
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Zora
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Andy
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Isla
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Ophelia
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Delia
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Kumar
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Hedy
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Gilbert
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Tracy
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Rosalind
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Andy
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By Lily
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
貨 還答應代理商要辦實體活動 一瞬間都沒了

By Megan
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Joe
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Tristan Cohan
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By John
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Edwina
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
菜

By Isabella
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
太多了

By Edith
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
為 除非你運氣很好 一盒就中

By Liam
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
還是你是經銷商
阿這種東西 我都直接買卡 抽一堆垃圾幹嘛

By Carolina Franco
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51

By Candice
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
慘 普通玩家還好 收藏玩家無感

By Freda
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Rae
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
鬼靈虎當時三萬以內而已

By Doris
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
代的 都是想抽啊
而且鬼靈虎我當時買的時候一萬七 那一箱我記得是快三
萬不是嗎

By Agatha
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Wallis
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
就算有剩 也跟單買鬼靈虎差不多價

By Linda
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
可當初在2 3代剛出來的時候 2代整箱比鬼靈虎貴上不少

By Dora
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Annie
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
卡牌包

By Andy
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
聽起來就算沒有停止營運,那些二代牌一樣沒價值,價值
都在鬼靈虎上了,甚至鬼靈虎的價值在卡牌停止營運後是
上升吧。

By George
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Gilbert
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
說沒有了 有流出來你也不敢買 都是找認識的

By Oscar
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
能知道是什麼回事。

By Anthony
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Megan
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
後面21代是用禮盒的形式出現 21代的卡牌包本身開不出鬼靈

By Quintina
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
那張隨機刮刮卡就有可能是重印的鬼靈虎

By Dinah
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
我感覺像佛心公司..

By Dorothy
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Ida
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
品)

By Victoria
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
佛什麼 你有本事先宣布21版是最後版本再來賣禮盒

By Bethany
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Ursula
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
樣
所以機率也是不明

By Ursula
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Mason
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By Aaliyah
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By Olga
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By Mason
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By Carol
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
牌玩家是極小數

By Mia
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
算割韭菜吧 那網易也沒割到你

By Dora
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
西能退款嗎?

By Genevieve
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
跟他有沒有宣布停售沒啥關係吧
還是你覺得宣布停售就很多人不抽鬼靈虎了

By Lauren
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
得ok 但事實是玩這麼多代了還不清楚這卡牌有沒有前途
不知道嗎..

By Dinah
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
虎 誰傻了花快一千塊去抽一個中獎率未知的東西

By Suhail Hany
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
你這個理論就跟CWOWer玩了這麼久 不知道陸服有沒有前途同

By Andy
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Jack
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By Elvira
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By Poppy
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By Skylar Davis
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
那網易也沒割到版上大部分的人吧

By Victoria
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Ursula
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
被割到的感覺。

By Rebecca
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Michael
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
們比較準。畢竟就像你說的 我沒被網易割到,所以不要下
結論。

By Caitlin
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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By Todd Johnson
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
準變來變去 有玩的跟你說覺得被割 還要你雲的決定算不算被

By Yuri
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
不管你信不信拉 我也不是要黑暴雪 我也還在玩暴雪遊戲

By Lauren
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Odelette
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By Brianna
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By Ethan
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
現在那個天價 (頭痛

By Skylar DavisLinda
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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。

By Olivia
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By Leila
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By Kelly
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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的店買

By Kelly
at 2022-11-20T09:40
at 2022-11-20T09:40
想像中容易

By Vanessa
at 2022-11-22T02:51
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。

By Isabella
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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By Olga
at 2022-11-22T02:51
at 2022-11-22T02:51
這個要買最好是找店家拉
這個交易成本真的不要省

By Isabella
at 2022-11-20T09:40
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