晚上十點解禁遊戲媒體發表會情報 - XBOX

By Michael
at 2016-03-02T00:38
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※ 引述《faang (昉)》之銘言:
: 基本上我是持正面看待的,
確實可以正面看待,如果今年有 16nm 製程的升級版,就
可以玩無外掛全境封鎖 1080p 60fps。
: 因為遊樂器5-6年一次升級的週期,
: 在現在來看是長到不可思議的一件事,
: 而這個生態卻已持續了30幾年,真的該改了。
: 因為這個世代,主機升級速度明顯已經趕不上PC升級的速度,
其實沒有這回事。真正被PC海放的時代其實是上一代。
詳細比較請見:PlayStation 版
[閒聊] PS4 的效能和 PC 的差距(+PS3同期對照)
簡而言之 PS3 出一年半後,GPU已差了五倍。比PS4還多。
這一代的 PC 卡製程卡很久了。28 nm 製程已卡了四年。
: 在以往,家用主機通常會領先市面上的電腦主流配備一到兩年的時間,
PS3 開始 GPU 就沒有領先了,更別說是 Wii。
: 然而現在,X1/PS4卻是一上市馬上被PC主流配備超越。
: 微軟不打算隔5-6年才要跟SONY拚一次軍備競賽
: 而是採用這種時時升級的方式
: 接著就看SONY如何接招
就看 npd 銷量吧。如果 x1 起飛 PS4.1 大概就有機會出。
(請見 [閒聊] PS4 > 4.1 PSV 1.5 半世代升級的可能性)
如果 x1 反而造成消費者不想買了,銷售數字大幅下跌,那
代表這個方式造成不安,大概變成下一個 PC-ENGINE。
不論那一種 SONY 都是以逸待勞。
: 因為遊戲規則被改變了
: 微軟這種做法破壞了遊樂器主機原有的生態
: 相信有些人一時無法接受
: 如果你們真的覺得這是個爛政策的話
: 那就來看看SONY會不會跟進
: 只是別忘了
: 如果SONY堅持原有路線
: PS系列反而會變成硬體效能相對最停滯的平台
問題它也會是最便宜的平台。然後獨佔作也變最多。
以往的例子,還沒看過世代中間出新機然後翻盤的。
: 對於走硬體效能的遊戲是不利的
: (至於N系不在討論範圍之內)
: 至於像是舊款主機會不會不能玩新出的遊戲?
: 在有更多相容性細節出來之前
: 討論這些可能有點過早了
我個人的覺得是:這一招應該翻不了盤。只要看
PS360 後期(2010~2012)這幾年 3A 作的銷量就
知道了,console版的銷量多還是PC版的多?
最後補上一段個人的看法:個人猜測 MS 對 XBOX
這個事業:失去耐心。簡而言之搞了十五年,結果
總營利算下來不知道是否為正,這一世代又搞到
不上不下的位置,MS 很明顯想轉型,至於轉到那裡
去,目前看來是同時 win 市集和 xbox 並重的型態,
所以獨佔作開始跨平台。但值得注意的是 PC 消費者
也未必會去 win 市集買第三廠作品,所以這種方式
是否帶來更大利潤就不得而知。
--
: 基本上我是持正面看待的,
確實可以正面看待,如果今年有 16nm 製程的升級版,就
可以玩無外掛全境封鎖 1080p 60fps。
: 因為遊樂器5-6年一次升級的週期,
: 在現在來看是長到不可思議的一件事,
: 而這個生態卻已持續了30幾年,真的該改了。
: 因為這個世代,主機升級速度明顯已經趕不上PC升級的速度,
其實沒有這回事。真正被PC海放的時代其實是上一代。
詳細比較請見:PlayStation 版
[閒聊] PS4 的效能和 PC 的差距(+PS3同期對照)
簡而言之 PS3 出一年半後,GPU已差了五倍。比PS4還多。
這一代的 PC 卡製程卡很久了。28 nm 製程已卡了四年。
: 在以往,家用主機通常會領先市面上的電腦主流配備一到兩年的時間,
PS3 開始 GPU 就沒有領先了,更別說是 Wii。
: 然而現在,X1/PS4卻是一上市馬上被PC主流配備超越。
: 微軟不打算隔5-6年才要跟SONY拚一次軍備競賽
: 而是採用這種時時升級的方式
: 接著就看SONY如何接招
就看 npd 銷量吧。如果 x1 起飛 PS4.1 大概就有機會出。
(請見 [閒聊] PS4 > 4.1 PSV 1.5 半世代升級的可能性)
如果 x1 反而造成消費者不想買了,銷售數字大幅下跌,那
代表這個方式造成不安,大概變成下一個 PC-ENGINE。
不論那一種 SONY 都是以逸待勞。
: 因為遊戲規則被改變了
: 微軟這種做法破壞了遊樂器主機原有的生態
: 相信有些人一時無法接受
: 如果你們真的覺得這是個爛政策的話
: 那就來看看SONY會不會跟進
: 只是別忘了
: 如果SONY堅持原有路線
: PS系列反而會變成硬體效能相對最停滯的平台
問題它也會是最便宜的平台。然後獨佔作也變最多。
以往的例子,還沒看過世代中間出新機然後翻盤的。
: 對於走硬體效能的遊戲是不利的
: (至於N系不在討論範圍之內)
: 至於像是舊款主機會不會不能玩新出的遊戲?
: 在有更多相容性細節出來之前
: 討論這些可能有點過早了
我個人的覺得是:這一招應該翻不了盤。只要看
PS360 後期(2010~2012)這幾年 3A 作的銷量就
知道了,console版的銷量多還是PC版的多?
最後補上一段個人的看法:個人猜測 MS 對 XBOX
這個事業:失去耐心。簡而言之搞了十五年,結果
總營利算下來不知道是否為正,這一世代又搞到
不上不下的位置,MS 很明顯想轉型,至於轉到那裡
去,目前看來是同時 win 市集和 xbox 並重的型態,
所以獨佔作開始跨平台。但值得注意的是 PC 消費者
也未必會去 win 市集買第三廠作品,所以這種方式
是否帶來更大利潤就不得而知。
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