新手請問NL5 ZOOM兩手牌 - 撲克牌

Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2014-04-07T17:08

Table of Contents

第一手牌

Table 'Hyakutake' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Philumnis ($4.64 in chips)
Seat 2: Katelpiller ($4.35 in chips)
Seat 3: sanpo_9b ($5.07 in chips)
Seat 4: Maxi_Lopes9 ($5.47 in chips)
Seat 5: AA_Amigo ($4.98 in chips)
Seat 6: Luchschaj ($4.15 in chips)
Seat 7: Woland_nvkz ($5 in chips)
Seat 8: akela117 ($11.57 in chips)
Seat 9: dexter141275 ($5.67 in chips)
Katelpiller: posts small blind $0.02
sanpo_9b: posts big blind $0.05

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Philumnis [As Qd]
Maxi_Lopes9: folds
AA_Amigo: folds
Luchschaj: folds
Woland_nvkz: folds
akela117: raises $0.10 to $0.15
dexter141275: folds
Philumnis: calls $0.15
Katelpiller: folds
sanpo_9b: folds

*** FLOP *** [8d Tc Ad]
akela117: checks
Philumnis: bets $0.25
akela117: calls $0.25

當他check call的時候,
我的想法是,
最大就跟我一樣A pair,
或A pair以下,
或flush draw。

*** TURN *** [8d Tc Ad] [4d]
akela117: checks
Philumnis: bets $0.40
akela117: calls $0.40

這邊我bet差不多1/2 pot,
又來一次check call,
這邊打的會太小嗎?
因為我也有同花的可能性,他raise我應該會fold,
可是只有call,更堅定他只有A pair或是A pair以下。

*** RIVER *** [8d Tc Ad 4d] [9c]
akela117: checks
Philumnis: bets $1.35
akela117: calls $1.35

這邊對方中set。

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Philumnis: shows [As Qd] (a pair of Aces)
akela117: shows [9s 9d] (three of a kind, Nines)
akela117 collected $4.19 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.37 | Rake $0.18
Board [8d Tc Ad 4d 9c]
Seat 1: Philumnis (button) showed [As Qd] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 8: akela117 showed [9s 9d] and won ($4.19) with three of a kind, Nines

如果我turn打2/3-3/4的pot會比較好嗎?
如果最後river他選擇raise的話是easy fold嗎?

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第二手牌

Table 'Hyakutake' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: xorgon1 ($4.83 in chips)
Seat 2: ykos14 ($6.56 in chips)
Seat 3: mst6 ($5 in chips)
Seat 4: damjansh ($4.59 in chips)
Seat 5: bronze89 ($2.48 in chips)
Seat 6: Triball777 ($5 in chips)
Seat 7: introspect59 ($5 in chips)
Seat 8: Philumnis ($5.74 in chips)
Seat 9: senzassi ($0.50 in chips)
ykos14: posts small blind $0.02
mst6: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Philumnis [8s As]
damjansh: folds
bronze89: raises $0.10 to $0.15
Triball777: folds
introspect59: folds
Philumnis: calls $0.15
senzassi: folds
xorgon1: folds
ykos14: calls $0.13
mst6: folds

*** FLOP *** [5s Jd Ad]
ykos14: checks
bronze89: checks
Philumnis: bets $0.30
ykos14: calls $0.30
bronze89: folds

*** TURN *** [5s Jd Ad] [2h]
ykos14: checks
Philumnis: bets $0.30
ykos14: calls $0.30

*** RIVER *** [5s Jd Ad 2h] [7d]
ykos14: bets $0.80
Philumnis: folds
Uncalled bet ($0.80) returned to ykos14
ykos14 collected $1.63 from pot
ykos14: doesn't show hand

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.70 | Rake $0.07
Board [5s Jd Ad 2h 7d]
Seat 1: xorgon1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ykos14 (small blind) collected ($1.63)
Seat 3: mst6 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: damjansh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: bronze89 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Triball777 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: introspect59 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Philumnis folded on the River
Seat 9: senzassi folded before Flop (didn't bet)

這手牌我想請問的是如果是正常玩家river如何選擇?
因為剛開始沒數據一直在練習觀念,
還請各位前輩多批評,看能不能告知哪邊做什麼改善比較好。

如果這2手牌爛到不需要討論也請噓文,先謝謝各位。

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All Comments

Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2014-04-08T16:50
你好!我也是新手玩家,第二把我進去是要買花的..若沒買
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2014-04-10T05:52
到,也沒有2PAIR或是其他機會..可能就轉趨保守後蓋牌囉
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2014-04-14T14:07
因為最後面掉了第三張花..不管是比KICK或是真的有花
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2014-04-19T00:59
都有點冒險
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2014-04-23T01:48
第一把我到最後可能也不會突然丟個1.35,FLOP和TURN會丟
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2014-04-23T19:14
的跟你差不多..
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2014-04-24T18:04
第一手還好阿 他拿pocket9 都可以CALL到這樣了
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2014-04-27T06:43
那對上他 同樣的 你也可以從他的middle pair.A小拿到value
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2014-04-30T15:06
只是turn我應該會BET更大一點 你FLOP打那麼大
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2014-05-04T12:20
turn那麼小 讓他有好的odds...雖然他也只剩兩張
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2014-05-07T00:54
或許他是想買花吧....
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2014-05-08T04:01
不然看不出他買甚麼 那麼不信你...
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2014-05-11T00:03
第一手牌 turn其實可以選擇check 因為你有一張Qd
加上你的A PAIR有 SHOWDOWN VALUE
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2014-05-15T21:44
river其實開那張9的話 已經沒啥太多的value可以再拿
Jake avatar
By Jake
at 2014-05-18T15:16
如果不看數據我會選擇show down 但如果你硬要從對手的middle
kicker拿value的話就必須 b/f
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2014-05-20T14:56
有位置要擅用!
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2014-05-22T00:28
推樓上 剛把她們兩個位置顛倒了 有位置的話的確可以選擇樓
上的打法
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2014-05-26T09:15
但turn我還是會打 river的話 如果沒數據沒交手記錄
就不會硬要那麼thin的VALUE了
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2014-05-26T22:17
第一把我turn打一發的想法是想分隔出flush draw跟與pair
打完就突然覺得打太小只知道不是flush,然後他call我就
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2014-05-30T18:02
覺得了不起A胚中間kicker或中胚,如果在turn就結束應該
是最好?
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2014-06-02T03:10
其實後來會bet 1.35檢討起來真的是太有自信的感覺,
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2014-06-04T20:25
可能那時就覺得除了輸AK以外不可能有其他牌了 囧
開出來是set還蠻錯愕的,因為如果我是對方,我應該會
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2014-06-06T06:45
再raise一次,fold可以讓對方看不到底牌,call可贏更多
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2014-06-09T02:03
首先 你turn bet 1/2 對方c/c 手上還是有可能有flush
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2014-06-10T01:15
第二 你除了輸AK外 還輸A8 A9 AT A4
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2014-06-13T13:08
最後如果對方手上是 set river也不可能會c/r 因為會跟的只剩下
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2014-06-14T05:50
FLUSH 如果你要走bet Turn的路線就必須打大一點 至少0.6
但缺點就是會浪費你的Qd的odds 如果TURN被C/R你只能摸摸鼻子蓋
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2014-06-15T11:41
我的思維大致上是這樣子
Brianna avatar
By Brianna
at 2014-06-15T22:32
我不知道我這樣想法對不對,但我沒考慮2 pairs是因為
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2014-06-18T09:01
因為他選擇是call,我就沒有把他的牌力放在2 pairs
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2014-06-18T21:14
你這思維是合理的 但你可以反過來想如果對方手上只有A2 A7
有辦法call這個river嗎?
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2014-06-20T04:25
如果我flop hit到2 pairs,那我flop不re-raise給對方買
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2014-06-23T04:37
花的機會,因為他連call兩發基本上很難猜測到我有什麼
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2014-06-25T10:27
所以如果又碰到這種情況,我river打1/2pot左右,看他反
應應該是最好的方式嗎?
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2014-06-28T12:20
對了river那1.35是我bet的 XD 不知道你有沒有搞混
我沒改成HERO,抱歉
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2014-07-02T06:51
是阿 我知道是你bet的阿 我應該已經講出我會怎麼打了吧?
Linda avatar
By Linda
at 2014-07-05T07:00
你可以都試試看
練習找出一套適合自己的系統
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2014-07-07T07:18
我了解了,謝謝 Qd我沒考慮到
Iris avatar
By Iris
at 2014-07-10T03:14
剛太執著在某一點沒注意到其他東西。
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2014-07-11T14:51
因為現在都還在模仿書上的標準打法 囧

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