嶄新命運是不是過強? - 線上

By Rachel
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好吧這其實是標題殺人XD
以前玩MTG也有用過這種牌,那時候的感覺並不特別強大,就是中上水準
MTG因為有抽牌可以磨對手牌庫的牌,這種一次抽一堆的牌可以瞬間把別人的牌庫磨光
但磨牌類的套牌就是把血從20變成60來打,所以一直都不是T1或主流套牌
我在MTG中也有玩過以墳場效果為主的套牌,例如典型的黑綠躁狂
但我比較常做的事情是直接自磨,而不會採用這種牌
(一方面這種全棄全抽在MTG裡主要在紅色,而紅色近期的墳場利用(ry
在Shadowverse中,雖然沒有真正意義上的挖墳套牌
死靈吃墳的感覺比較像是放逐墳場的牌獲得一些加成,而不是真正有挖墳等墳場互動
少數跟墳場有關係的大招就是冥府,
冥府一開始訂30應該是為了「極難達成」,
畢竟30張在墳場正常來說你也差不多快見死神了
但是SV有MTG裡面沒有的牌—Token手牌(妖精、護衛魔像召喚)等等,
而「新命運一視同仁都當作一張牌」「這些牌進墳一樣算數」的結果
就導致了冥妖的誕生
冥妖的本體其實不是冥府(冥府可以2張甚至1張,像我只有一張照樣在打)
冥妖的本體是嶄新命運,是這張牌讓冥妖幾乎等於拿著牌庫在跟別人打
手牌不好?刷掉重來,反正他們等等還是會變成冥府的肥料
所以,新命運是不是太強?
我覺得新命運不能用傳統的手牌value來檢視,
因為妖精無痛生產的大量token手牌,每一張都可以換成牌庫中有價值的手牌
新命運有接近薔薇女王的效果(把每張妖精都變得有用),但代價遠低於薔薇女王
我想這也是為什麼冥府妖精如此橫行吧
如果要Nerf冥府妖精,也許可以從新命運的機制著手?
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以前玩MTG也有用過這種牌,那時候的感覺並不特別強大,就是中上水準
MTG因為有抽牌可以磨對手牌庫的牌,這種一次抽一堆的牌可以瞬間把別人的牌庫磨光
但磨牌類的套牌就是把血從20變成60來打,所以一直都不是T1或主流套牌
我在MTG中也有玩過以墳場效果為主的套牌,例如典型的黑綠躁狂
但我比較常做的事情是直接自磨,而不會採用這種牌
(一方面這種全棄全抽在MTG裡主要在紅色,而紅色近期的墳場利用(ry
在Shadowverse中,雖然沒有真正意義上的挖墳套牌
死靈吃墳的感覺比較像是放逐墳場的牌獲得一些加成,而不是真正有挖墳等墳場互動
少數跟墳場有關係的大招就是冥府,
冥府一開始訂30應該是為了「極難達成」,
畢竟30張在墳場正常來說你也差不多快見死神了
但是SV有MTG裡面沒有的牌—Token手牌(妖精、護衛魔像召喚)等等,
而「新命運一視同仁都當作一張牌」「這些牌進墳一樣算數」的結果
就導致了冥妖的誕生
冥妖的本體其實不是冥府(冥府可以2張甚至1張,像我只有一張照樣在打)
冥妖的本體是嶄新命運,是這張牌讓冥妖幾乎等於拿著牌庫在跟別人打
手牌不好?刷掉重來,反正他們等等還是會變成冥府的肥料
所以,新命運是不是太強?
我覺得新命運不能用傳統的手牌value來檢視,
因為妖精無痛生產的大量token手牌,每一張都可以換成牌庫中有價值的手牌
新命運有接近薔薇女王的效果(把每張妖精都變得有用),但代價遠低於薔薇女王
我想這也是為什麼冥府妖精如此橫行吧
如果要Nerf冥府妖精,也許可以從新命運的機制著手?
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