唯有放下,才能終結痛苦-最後生還者2 - PS

By Zora
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我覺得很優質的影片,再次分享給各位觀看
為了不被其它左右,這篇評論錄製編輯發佈之前並沒有看其他評論詳細內容,也沒有去
看劇情討論,為的就是秉持自己的觀點不被其它人左右,所以算是不錯的選擇。
https://youtu.be/SuRNTX9kDYM
裡面有提到,頑皮狗在「最後」系列的製作團隊在「講故事」能力跟技巧上處理的一直
不錯
,從一代到二代都一樣。
實際上一代的劇情也不是多厲害,是團隊講故事把一本普通的劇情講活了才對。
二代差是差在劇情腦洞大開,不然團隊在講故事上仍然非常優異,好比在博物館火箭升
空那段就是不錯的例子。
所以,其實差是差在劇本腦洞大開(再次強調),變成講故事講得再好都沒用....
接下來特地為某個版友做個文章,這裡麻煩各位再耐心看一下:
https://i.imgur.com/DgeLK0H.jpg
故事細節一再講述了艾莉的掙扎?
我不知道你是不是拿錯片啦,
我不太認為一個會掙扎的人,
會為了復仇一路殺那些不相干的人殺掉底,
最後要見到艾比幾分鐘前,還不是一槍把混混爆了?
更遑論頑皮狗設計了一套戰鬥系統之外,順便設計了殺完人嘴一波這事....
你會覺得殺了人,然後順便嘴一波「槓林良系厚」或是「送啦」這種話的,然後跟我說
其實她掙扎著要不要殺人?
而且你真的知道什麼叫做殺人嗎?你真的了解要能做到「殺人」的心境是怎樣子的嗎?
有一本書講得其實不錯,叫做「論殺戮」,
我覺得可以特別拿出來跟您、跟版友分享一下。
某版某篇文有大致敘述「論殺戮」的部份內容,大致說的是現實世界殺戮上的心裡跟各
層面的探討,
這是一系列的文,我建議你先去看一看現實中的殺戮時的心裡,再來跟版友討論艾莉到
底有沒有掙扎這件事比較好。
論殺戮 01 (這有一系列,勞煩版友直接搜尋標題論殺戮):
https://bit.ly/2CJqRO8
然後再來個小小補充:
關於開槍殺人的心裡培養
https://bit.ly/2ZWiuaL
※ 引述《www846www (傘電傘電傘電~~~~~)》之銘言
: 雖然我也覺得這一代的劇情跟大便一樣,但好歹為了不要對不起那1790我還是玩完了
,應
: 該還是有資格評論一下的吧。不講劇情的前提下,這一代的其他部分確實還是這個世
代頂
: 尖的製作水平,並沒有爆炸。但問題就在於,最後生還者系列是劇情驅動的遊戲。
: 這也就注定了只要劇情大暴死玩家根本就不會管其他的,就像英雄聯盟同樣也有著動
人的
: 角色故事與整個宇宙,但只要多人平衡沒搞好玩家哪管你其他的。然後,最後生還者
2的
: 預告詐欺跟漫威的預告詐欺完全是不同概念。漫威那種充其量是利用剪輯或者其他畫
面來
: 誤導觀眾對劇情的猜想,但核心的關鍵劇情。英雄終將獲得勝利同樣不變。最後生還
者2呢
: ?原本喬爾該出現的地方被傑西代替,然後喬爾在一開始就被當成高爾夫球。如果在復
仇者
: 聯盟中最後一集彈指的不是鋼鐵人,而被換成了一些二線英雄,比如獵鷹,然後把鋼
鐵人
: 彈指的部分當作預告暴雷出來,看看整個社群會不會爆炸。這種性質並不是假預告,
而是
: 商業上的詐欺。
: 然後,最後生還者一代之所以能讓玩家感動的地方在於,喬爾是個完美的主角嗎?不
是,
: 他冷酷、自私、不近人情。但因為這是一個末世,所以玩家能夠理解並同感他做的選
擇。
: 同樣的,一代用了整個遊戲旅程來塑造喬爾與艾莉之間的感情,才讓玩家在最後對喬
爾
: 自私的選擇有所理解。
: 進到了二代,喬爾的死並不是問題,問題是隨後的所有角色他們的互動根本不合邏輯
。
: Gamker的影片講的很不錯,復仇與原諒的劇本我們還看得少了嗎?但其中的角色互動
根本
: 不符合邏輯阿。
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuRNTX9kDYM
但艾
: 莉的視角知道嗎?遊戲中的時間線僅僅三天,這三天兩個人碰面的時間有沒有兩個小
時都
: 不知道,結果艾莉在最後關頭居然大徹大悟放棄復仇?放棄復仇的動機?轉折點?
: 艾莉根本沒有任何同感艾比的機會啊。而且,玩家在艾莉線殺了一堆配角,結果幾個
小時
: 後這些配角一樣活蹦亂跳的,要如何期待玩家對那些剛剛殺掉的 npc 投入感情。擺回
憶
: 線不是問題,但這樣的敘事方式非常糟糕。
: 最讓玩家不能接受的事情是,第二部中的人物完全違反他們的人設,而且做出了太多
不符
: 合邏輯的事情,作為一款劇情類遊戲,應該要讓角色推動劇情,而不是劇情推動角色
。
: 就拿艾比入侵劇場來說吧,傑西,一個在這個世界中擔任偵查兵的角色,理論上來說
應該
: 要很有警覺性吧?結果在老窩遭到入侵的時候並不是步步進逼,而是直接亂衝最後被
一波
: 爆頭。然後湯米被爆頭居然沒死,後來變成了情緒勒索狂,他之前可是一個為了阻止
艾莉
: 復仇,而會自己一個人踏上復仇旅程的暖大叔耶。最不希望艾莉復仇的或許就是他。
: 結局的確狗屁不通阿,告訴我遊戲中的艾莉在甚麼契機下能夠放過艾比?要說有家庭
,
: 那她為啥會被湯米說動?本來收在艾莉有個美好的家庭其實這個結局還不賴,硬要多
後
: 面那一段真的讓人問號。
: 說是其他玩家被人物的既有印象給綁住了,搞清楚,這一部作品叫做「最後生還者2」
不
: 是姑姑人大冒險,對於這些玩家熟悉的角色維持著他們既有的人設刻劃劇情,而不是
在這
: 次完全推翻重來,這才是正常的續集該有的做法吧?
: 漫威宇宙之所以是一個不容易的成就,不正是因為它從鋼鐵人開始,從螢幕後到螢幕
外,
: 打造了一個願意讓人相信的超級英雄世界,有著從頭到尾經歷了完整轉變的英雄群嗎
?
: 拿最後生還者2比漫威,根本就是XX比雞腿。完全比不上。
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