卡坦島交易心得研討 - 桌遊
By Mia
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在線上玩常看到許多高手
使用了意想不到的交易技巧化腐朽為神奇
在此拋磚引玉跟大家討論一下
初級:補全交易法
比如說想要一個石,但石頭很稀少
這時如果手中有三個木或一兩個木但有港口
就可以想辦法交易一個木進來,讓自己能跟銀行換石
中級:壟斷交易法
當有壟斷卡時,若想壟斷特定資源例如石頭
可先將手中的石頭用廉價交易出去
當對方以為賺到時,再一次全拿回來
非常卑鄙的招數
高級:間接交易法之港口篇
有點像初級法的反過來
比如說場上有大量的羊,而我有羊港
這時我想拿兩羊換兩石是不可能的
但我觀察到有人需要磚又有豐富石礦
於是可先用兩羊跟港口換一磚,再用一磚跟玩家換兩石
究極:間接交易法之玩家篇
這是我目前看過最高級的玩法,但失敗率也很高
比如說a玩家有石需要磚也需要木,b玩家有磚需要石
目前輪到我,我有木需要磚,只是b不需要我的木
這時可以先拿兩個木跟a換一個石
再用一個石跟b換兩個磚
結果是成功用兩木換到兩磚
--
不知道還有沒有更高的技巧呢?
補充一下,一換多的時候跟對方強調爆資源的風險是個好話術
尤其是對懷有大量資源的上家
--
Tukuyomi提供的方法:
無敵:間接交易法之港口+玩家篇
自己有特殊港而別人沒有31港的情況下可以用(若有31港亦可使用變體如下括號)
例如自己有羊港,而別人想要一個石頭
可以先用木頭交易三個羊進來(變體為兩羊附加其他東西)
再用羊港做石頭,最後再用石頭換木頭回來
我個人想到的變體是,先用一木交易兩羊進來
並跟對方要求一羊利潤
最後再把做好的石頭交易一羊一木回來
我認為這個方法必須確保彼此還有利用價值
如果已經沒有利用價值了,隨時都有可能破局
--
此法完整將所有交易的要素涵蓋其中
我想應該不會有超越這種等級的手段了
只是不知為何T板友糾結執著在誠信問題上
如果要確保雙方不反悔,就必須精準掌控一開始的抵押品
但要做到這點通常要到後期滿路滿騎士,甚至滿村滿城的狀況(前期資源不同可有不同發展)
對手還必須是沒有31港的內陸型玩家
這時候的交易本來就有高風險
再加上兩階段交易的高度不確定性
不僅是反悔的問題,其他人跳進來搶食也可能,如果第三者分數較低,或提出條件較優
並沒有規定玩家必須遵守遊戲外的私下協議
因為這個遊戲是以個體為單位,而不是組隊競賽
玩家只須考慮「自己」能否取勝,而毋需在遊戲中關注誠信或道德問題
所以此法的確只有絕頂高手徹底了解對方手牌、洞察通盤局勢、理解各人心理狀況
外加口若懸河、舌燦蓮花的情況下才敢使用
(撇除掉以遊戲外手段制裁對方者)
--
使用了意想不到的交易技巧化腐朽為神奇
在此拋磚引玉跟大家討論一下
初級:補全交易法
比如說想要一個石,但石頭很稀少
這時如果手中有三個木或一兩個木但有港口
就可以想辦法交易一個木進來,讓自己能跟銀行換石
中級:壟斷交易法
當有壟斷卡時,若想壟斷特定資源例如石頭
可先將手中的石頭用廉價交易出去
當對方以為賺到時,再一次全拿回來
非常卑鄙的招數
高級:間接交易法之港口篇
有點像初級法的反過來
比如說場上有大量的羊,而我有羊港
這時我想拿兩羊換兩石是不可能的
但我觀察到有人需要磚又有豐富石礦
於是可先用兩羊跟港口換一磚,再用一磚跟玩家換兩石
究極:間接交易法之玩家篇
這是我目前看過最高級的玩法,但失敗率也很高
比如說a玩家有石需要磚也需要木,b玩家有磚需要石
目前輪到我,我有木需要磚,只是b不需要我的木
這時可以先拿兩個木跟a換一個石
再用一個石跟b換兩個磚
結果是成功用兩木換到兩磚
--
不知道還有沒有更高的技巧呢?
補充一下,一換多的時候跟對方強調爆資源的風險是個好話術
尤其是對懷有大量資源的上家
--
Tukuyomi提供的方法:
無敵:間接交易法之港口+玩家篇
自己有特殊港而別人沒有31港的情況下可以用(若有31港亦可使用變體如下括號)
例如自己有羊港,而別人想要一個石頭
可以先用木頭交易三個羊進來(變體為兩羊附加其他東西)
再用羊港做石頭,最後再用石頭換木頭回來
我個人想到的變體是,先用一木交易兩羊進來
並跟對方要求一羊利潤
最後再把做好的石頭交易一羊一木回來
我認為這個方法必須確保彼此還有利用價值
如果已經沒有利用價值了,隨時都有可能破局
--
此法完整將所有交易的要素涵蓋其中
我想應該不會有超越這種等級的手段了
只是不知為何T板友糾結執著在誠信問題上
如果要確保雙方不反悔,就必須精準掌控一開始的抵押品
但要做到這點通常要到後期滿路滿騎士,甚至滿村滿城的狀況(前期資源不同可有不同發展)
對手還必須是沒有31港的內陸型玩家
這時候的交易本來就有高風險
再加上兩階段交易的高度不確定性
不僅是反悔的問題,其他人跳進來搶食也可能,如果第三者分數較低,或提出條件較優
並沒有規定玩家必須遵守遊戲外的私下協議
因為這個遊戲是以個體為單位,而不是組隊競賽
玩家只須考慮「自己」能否取勝,而毋需在遊戲中關注誠信或道德問題
所以此法的確只有絕頂高手徹底了解對方手牌、洞察通盤局勢、理解各人心理狀況
外加口若懸河、舌燦蓮花的情況下才敢使用
(撇除掉以遊戲外手段制裁對方者)
--
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