reddit有人測了掉落率的問題 - 流亡黯道
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By Ursula
at 2018-03-18T09:38
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Table of Contents
※ 引述《snowpoint (暱稱)》之銘言:
: 這個測試是在國際服將網子掉落率調低後做的
: 由於調低後大家還是無法接受物品掉落,所以就做了實驗
: 先說他的結論:
: 看來白怪不被增加物品掉落數量(IIQ)影響
: 擊殺怪物機體:
: 190% increased item quantity + 247% increased item rarity + legacy bisco with
: 100% quantity for normal mobs and 150% rarity for magic mobs
: T10 點金圖 (50~70%增加物品數量)
: 關閉物品過濾器後的成果截圖
: https://i.imgur.com/2f3E1Tl.jpg
: https://i.imgur.com/2f3E1Tl.jpg
: Bisco死去
: 詳細測試條件以及完整測試影片可以到reddit討論串了解
: https://goo.gl/CbMPTe
原文網址:https://goo.gl/yfe2TZ
直接得到 Bisco 死去這個結論有一點點太快了,
真的要說,應該是「所有 IIQ 係數可能都不影響白怪的掉落物」。
所以要打寶的話可能要回到1.2或pre2.0前的方法了。
We will test more once we get 6 people in the party to get a better idea of
the drops, but from the looks of it ggg has nerfed the base quantity of white
monsters to almost 0% because magic, rare and boss monsters still drop a lot
of loot. They haven't mentioned anything about monster quantity changes
anywhere in the patch notes and this is something that's either bugged or
intentional. If it's an intentional change then I don't even know why anyone
is playing this game anymore. I thought people play ARPGs to kill monsters
and pick up loot, but looks like we can't do any of those two things in the
current patch.
TLDR; It appears white monsters are not affected by IIQ at all.
「如果我們組到六人團,就會測試更多張地圖,釐清掉落物的狀況,但從目前的結果
來看,GGG 已經將白怪的基礎掉落數量 nerf 到 0%,因為藍怪、金怪和橘怪仍然掉了
相當多的東西。GGG 沒有在改版資訊中提到怪物的掉落數量更動。如果這是 GGG 刻意
的調整,我已經不知道為什麼要玩這個遊戲,我認為玩家喜歡 ARPG 殺怪撿寶的感覺,
但現在的這個 Patch 裡,我們兩件事情都做不到。」
「結論:白怪似乎完全不受掉落物數量的影響」。
(這個人就是太玻璃心,來貼我們臺灣大論壇一定被噴不爽不要玩。)
(#FreeGameNoBitching)
(#AlakaizerMakeUp)
同一篇底下的回應區,moldydwarf 是原 Po 的測試伙伴,他釐清了另外一些測試結果。
讓我澄清一些想法。我和 Snejk(原po)一起測試,橘怪和藍怪的掉落物符合預期:
隊伍中的打寶裝帶來一大堆的掉落,但白怪幾乎不受任何「數量加成」影響,無論組隊
人數、地圖詞墜,裝備上的數量當然也毫無效果。」
多數地圖裡的多數怪物都是白的。我們猜測數量的效率下降是本季無法維持地圖池和
點金的部份原因。
我們在標準測試,因為我們可以用舊版裝備疊數量,也可以排除網子對其他掉落物的
可能影響。
裂界的白怪跟長老的怪物都很會掉。
補充:
一、無法完全確定地圖詞墜的數量沒有影響力,或者只是影響力很低。
二、我們做了更多測試,如果玩家沒有打寶裝,掉落物確實減少了。所以玩家打寶裝可以
影響掉落物,只是影響程度很小。
三、我們的測試團隊對於第二點沒有共識,測試之後會再討論成果。
四、(我懶得全翻)數量可能完全不影響白怪,或者邊際效益遞減的情況相當嚴重。
https://imgur.com/a/ZrG1K
第四點結論: 390% 的白怪掉落數量大概增加了 30%-40% 的更多掉落物,相當糟糕的
邊際效益遞減。
--
GGG 的習慣一直是這樣,假設玩家預設的收穫是 X,經由裝備 A 加成之後,效果為 Y 。
GGG 的 Nerf 會把新版玩家的效果改為「經由同樣的裝備A加成之後,效果為X」,
換句話說,更辛苦的是無法負擔 A裝備的人,因為他原本的收穫是 X,
改版之後是屎。
Bisco 對白怪掉落的加成很棒,兩、三季以來也都帶來很有趣的遊戲體驗。
砍了就砍了,但想不到是把白怪的掉落係數砍成這樣。
以前最常聽到的評論是:「砍 bisco 就砍阿反正我每一季都買不起」
現在真的沒差了。我沒差 = =
--
: 這個測試是在國際服將網子掉落率調低後做的
: 由於調低後大家還是無法接受物品掉落,所以就做了實驗
: 先說他的結論:
: 看來白怪不被增加物品掉落數量(IIQ)影響
: 擊殺怪物機體:
: 190% increased item quantity + 247% increased item rarity + legacy bisco with
: 100% quantity for normal mobs and 150% rarity for magic mobs
: T10 點金圖 (50~70%增加物品數量)
: 關閉物品過濾器後的成果截圖
: https://i.imgur.com/2f3E1Tl.jpg
![](https://cache.ptt.cc/c/https/i.imgur.com/2f3E1Tll.jpg?e=1629817167&s=ASspMiZP9bhQPBDeE0qDRA)
![](https://cache.ptt.cc/c/https/i.imgur.com/2f3E1Tll.jpg?e=1629817167&s=ASspMiZP9bhQPBDeE0qDRA)
: 詳細測試條件以及完整測試影片可以到reddit討論串了解
: https://goo.gl/CbMPTe
原文網址:https://goo.gl/yfe2TZ
直接得到 Bisco 死去這個結論有一點點太快了,
真的要說,應該是「所有 IIQ 係數可能都不影響白怪的掉落物」。
所以要打寶的話可能要回到1.2或pre2.0前的方法了。
We will test more once we get 6 people in the party to get a better idea of
the drops, but from the looks of it ggg has nerfed the base quantity of white
monsters to almost 0% because magic, rare and boss monsters still drop a lot
of loot. They haven't mentioned anything about monster quantity changes
anywhere in the patch notes and this is something that's either bugged or
intentional. If it's an intentional change then I don't even know why anyone
is playing this game anymore. I thought people play ARPGs to kill monsters
and pick up loot, but looks like we can't do any of those two things in the
current patch.
TLDR; It appears white monsters are not affected by IIQ at all.
「如果我們組到六人團,就會測試更多張地圖,釐清掉落物的狀況,但從目前的結果
來看,GGG 已經將白怪的基礎掉落數量 nerf 到 0%,因為藍怪、金怪和橘怪仍然掉了
相當多的東西。GGG 沒有在改版資訊中提到怪物的掉落數量更動。如果這是 GGG 刻意
的調整,我已經不知道為什麼要玩這個遊戲,我認為玩家喜歡 ARPG 殺怪撿寶的感覺,
但現在的這個 Patch 裡,我們兩件事情都做不到。」
「結論:白怪似乎完全不受掉落物數量的影響」。
(這個人就是太玻璃心,來貼我們臺灣大論壇一定被噴不爽不要玩。)
(#FreeGameNoBitching)
(#AlakaizerMakeUp)
同一篇底下的回應區,moldydwarf 是原 Po 的測試伙伴,他釐清了另外一些測試結果。
讓我澄清一些想法。我和 Snejk(原po)一起測試,橘怪和藍怪的掉落物符合預期:
隊伍中的打寶裝帶來一大堆的掉落,但白怪幾乎不受任何「數量加成」影響,無論組隊
人數、地圖詞墜,裝備上的數量當然也毫無效果。」
多數地圖裡的多數怪物都是白的。我們猜測數量的效率下降是本季無法維持地圖池和
點金的部份原因。
我們在標準測試,因為我們可以用舊版裝備疊數量,也可以排除網子對其他掉落物的
可能影響。
裂界的白怪跟長老的怪物都很會掉。
補充:
一、無法完全確定地圖詞墜的數量沒有影響力,或者只是影響力很低。
二、我們做了更多測試,如果玩家沒有打寶裝,掉落物確實減少了。所以玩家打寶裝可以
影響掉落物,只是影響程度很小。
三、我們的測試團隊對於第二點沒有共識,測試之後會再討論成果。
四、(我懶得全翻)數量可能完全不影響白怪,或者邊際效益遞減的情況相當嚴重。
https://imgur.com/a/ZrG1K
第四點結論: 390% 的白怪掉落數量大概增加了 30%-40% 的更多掉落物,相當糟糕的
邊際效益遞減。
--
GGG 的習慣一直是這樣,假設玩家預設的收穫是 X,經由裝備 A 加成之後,效果為 Y 。
GGG 的 Nerf 會把新版玩家的效果改為「經由同樣的裝備A加成之後,效果為X」,
換句話說,更辛苦的是無法負擔 A裝備的人,因為他原本的收穫是 X,
改版之後是屎。
Bisco 對白怪掉落的加成很棒,兩、三季以來也都帶來很有趣的遊戲體驗。
砍了就砍了,但想不到是把白怪的掉落係數砍成這樣。
以前最常聽到的評論是:「砍 bisco 就砍阿反正我每一季都買不起」
現在真的沒差了。我沒差 = =
--
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