PS5會缺貨到什麼時候? - PS

By Ursula
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※ 引述《deepinheart (心深處)》之銘言:
: 不然再來iPhone 13發表,依照往年經驗,所有電子的關鍵零組件的產能會被這巨人吃掉
: 大部分
: 全球化的供應鏈只要一個國家爆掉,是整組爆掉,現在中國狀況不明、東南亞爆光。
看到這邊篇講供應鏈就想回覆一下
本肥也是負責供應鏈管理的工作,公司好歹也是10個人有9個聽過的系統廠
目前半導體的情況簡單來說就是:慘!慘!慘!
這邊先說明一下供應鏈常用的術語:
FCST:Forecast,客戶或銷售部門所預測的需求,材料的備料計畫基本都是依照這份預測去準備
LT:Lead Time(中文我忘了),材料下訂單給廠商後要多久才能交貨
Delivery date:交期,供應商會跟你說我何時能交貨
跳票:供應商反應無法準時交貨,要延後交貨時間
現貨市場:spot market,現貨商(broker)平常會買材料堆在倉庫,當有人急需材料會去找他們,用高於原廠的價格賺價差
材料的備料原則很多種,這邊不討論,但比較多是用FCST來計畫,採購會根據LT決定要下多少料與要求供應商何時交貨,所以理論上按照FCST備料就不會有缺料,但有一個大前提:FCST是準的。
本肥目前遇到的問題就是客戶今年上半年的實際訂單數量比FCST多了2-3倍,我根本沒有足夠的材料可以做給他,我現在欠客戶的數量已經可以讓我做到明年1月還做不完了,工作量暴增,每天都活在地獄中。
前面有一篇提到SONY這麼大公司應該有一個專業的團隊預測吧?
我可以說,絕對有,但預測肯定不准,因為平常FCST是會根據市場情況每週變化的,而現在疫情肯定更難預測,兩年前誰他媽會知道會有疫情,而且還持續了2年??未來還要持續多久??沒人敢打包票
我們高層去年預估今年有疫苗會好轉,結果誰知道病毒來個超級變變變直接讓疫苗無效化,全球突破性感染不知道已經多少了,東南亞更是直接爆炸,這就要提到另一個問題:LT
過去疫情前半導體IC LT了不起26~30WK(半年),現在隨便都要52WK(一年)以上,最近更被告知要延長到80-100WK,現在下單要等快兩年才能交貨,因為工廠缺工,只要發現確診直接關廠好幾天,全球供應鏈崩潰
我們已經要求客戶要提供FCST到2022年底先去備料了,有些客戶還給不出來
先前台積電漲價直接丟出一個震撼彈,因為漲價直接導致現有IC交期直接跳票,有些交期直接從今年跳票到明年3/4月甚至回到明年下半年,逼你付錢才出給你
但訂單還是要出啊,這時很多人就會去現貨市場找,但由於全球大缺料的情況,IC的價格被炒的爆高,平均都是原價的10倍以上,甚至有聽到100倍的,買一顆IC是一台成品的價格,誰買的下去?有時有錢還買不到,最後只能慢慢等
結論就是,現在市場是誰付錢誰就有材料,只是現在要付出的代價足以讓你賠到脫褲,財報出來股價直接腰斬。沒人想賠錢出貨,這對公司營運也不好所以大家只能繼續等,並期待那天情況可以變好,我唯一可以預測的是我未來一年還是活在地獄中,我痛苦,客戶也痛苦。
我已經開始考慮這代主機只買PC的XGP會員了QQ
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: 不然再來iPhone 13發表,依照往年經驗,所有電子的關鍵零組件的產能會被這巨人吃掉
: 大部分
: 全球化的供應鏈只要一個國家爆掉,是整組爆掉,現在中國狀況不明、東南亞爆光。
看到這邊篇講供應鏈就想回覆一下
本肥也是負責供應鏈管理的工作,公司好歹也是10個人有9個聽過的系統廠
目前半導體的情況簡單來說就是:慘!慘!慘!
這邊先說明一下供應鏈常用的術語:
FCST:Forecast,客戶或銷售部門所預測的需求,材料的備料計畫基本都是依照這份預測去準備
LT:Lead Time(中文我忘了),材料下訂單給廠商後要多久才能交貨
Delivery date:交期,供應商會跟你說我何時能交貨
跳票:供應商反應無法準時交貨,要延後交貨時間
現貨市場:spot market,現貨商(broker)平常會買材料堆在倉庫,當有人急需材料會去找他們,用高於原廠的價格賺價差
材料的備料原則很多種,這邊不討論,但比較多是用FCST來計畫,採購會根據LT決定要下多少料與要求供應商何時交貨,所以理論上按照FCST備料就不會有缺料,但有一個大前提:FCST是準的。
本肥目前遇到的問題就是客戶今年上半年的實際訂單數量比FCST多了2-3倍,我根本沒有足夠的材料可以做給他,我現在欠客戶的數量已經可以讓我做到明年1月還做不完了,工作量暴增,每天都活在地獄中。
前面有一篇提到SONY這麼大公司應該有一個專業的團隊預測吧?
我可以說,絕對有,但預測肯定不准,因為平常FCST是會根據市場情況每週變化的,而現在疫情肯定更難預測,兩年前誰他媽會知道會有疫情,而且還持續了2年??未來還要持續多久??沒人敢打包票
我們高層去年預估今年有疫苗會好轉,結果誰知道病毒來個超級變變變直接讓疫苗無效化,全球突破性感染不知道已經多少了,東南亞更是直接爆炸,這就要提到另一個問題:LT
過去疫情前半導體IC LT了不起26~30WK(半年),現在隨便都要52WK(一年)以上,最近更被告知要延長到80-100WK,現在下單要等快兩年才能交貨,因為工廠缺工,只要發現確診直接關廠好幾天,全球供應鏈崩潰
我們已經要求客戶要提供FCST到2022年底先去備料了,有些客戶還給不出來
先前台積電漲價直接丟出一個震撼彈,因為漲價直接導致現有IC交期直接跳票,有些交期直接從今年跳票到明年3/4月甚至回到明年下半年,逼你付錢才出給你
但訂單還是要出啊,這時很多人就會去現貨市場找,但由於全球大缺料的情況,IC的價格被炒的爆高,平均都是原價的10倍以上,甚至有聽到100倍的,買一顆IC是一台成品的價格,誰買的下去?有時有錢還買不到,最後只能慢慢等
結論就是,現在市場是誰付錢誰就有材料,只是現在要付出的代價足以讓你賠到脫褲,財報出來股價直接腰斬。沒人想賠錢出貨,這對公司營運也不好所以大家只能繼續等,並期待那天情況可以變好,我唯一可以預測的是我未來一年還是活在地獄中,我痛苦,客戶也痛苦。
我已經開始考慮這代主機只買PC的XGP會員了QQ
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