Mizzix's Mastery的漏洞(我找到了) - 魔法風雲會

By Tristan Cohan
at 2015-11-04T22:52
at 2015-11-04T22:52
Table of Contents
http://i.imgur.com/nie68aH.jpg
一、事前準備:
操控一個逐令僧侶 http://magiccards.info/m14/tw/7.html
且其已放逐對手鎢拉莫掠奪體 http://magiccards.info/bfz/tw/16.html
二、超載施放 Mizzix's Mastery
結算時會將你墳墓場所有的巫術與瞬間牌放逐並複製
其中有投擲 http://magiccards.info/m12/tw/134.html
與其它兩張任意瞬間或巫術
三、施放複製品投擲並犧牲逐令僧侶
這會導致鎢拉莫掠奪體「立即」回到戰場
(不經堆疊或SBA,是在Mizzix's Mastery正結算中,且投擲正施放中回戰場的)
四、鎢拉莫掠奪體有替代性效應可以將我方放逐區的牌弄回墳墓場
這時可以選擇投擲以外,Mizzix's Mastery所產生的複製品!
耶!惡搞完成!
五、複製品進了墳墓場玩法就更多了,嘿嘿嘿嘿
爭議點:複製品是否為牌(card)?
衍生物(Token)絕對不會是牌,且此事實亦不可能透過任何效應修改
但是稍微翻了一下完整規則706. Copying Objects
都沒有提到是否能將複製品視為牌
個人希望是視為牌啦,這樣才好玩嘛
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推 kirimaru73: 「因狀態而生的動作」有一項職責是看到copy就把它殺 11/04 15:34
→ kirimaru73: 掉 因此copy無法「存起來」 沒用掉就放棄 11/04 15:34
推 kirimaru73: 只有戰場上的copy可以正常存在 堆疊中的咒語copy則限 11/04 15:39
→ kirimaru73: 於在堆疊中存在 11/04 15:39
推 AkihisaYoshi: 但我們遇到的狀況是"牌"的copy 11/04 15:45
推 kirimaru73: 那就是了 狀態動作正是寫著「若一張牌的copy不在戰場 11/04 15:49
→ kirimaru73: 上或堆疊中,則它消失」 11/04 15:49
→ kirimaru73: 所以這種從墳場copy的牌其實只有一瞬間的壽命 11/04 15:50
→ buffalobill: 它是先放逐再copy,所以複製品應該是在放逐區產生的 11/04 17:35
→ buffalobill: 可惜沒有咒語是將放逐區的牌怎樣怎樣做為額外費用的 11/04 17:35
→ buffalobill: 不然可以惡搞看看 11/04 17:35
推 kirimaru73: 時間上會很趕 因為你宣告別的咒語或異能前 11/04 17:42
→ kirimaru73: 狀態動作一定會先來查水表......等等 11/04 17:42
→ kirimaru73: 如果這種咒語也是同一批被copy的就可以了 11/04 17:43
→ kirimaru73: 目前應該是沒有 最接近的噬體突襲要吃對手的牌 11/04 17:44
→ kirimaru73: 記得官網文章有提到 設計小組不想讓"自己被放逐的牌" 11/04 17:46
→ kirimaru73: 成為可用資源 不然光是自己搞自己就可以亂來 11/04 17:46
推 gary76: 目前只有一張時縫蕩空師是可以把自己被放逐的牌拿回來的 11/04 18:08
→ buffalobill: 效應肯定是來不及,必須是費用或是 As 類的東西 11/04 19:13
推 westwade: 費用也來不及吧 他產生複製品是在咒語結算中 一個咒語 11/04 21:38
→ westwade: 結算中不能作需要付費的動作 11/04 21:39
→ shadowblade: 它結算時會要你施放其他的咒語,這時要付額外費用可以 11/04 21:42
一、事前準備:
操控一個逐令僧侶 http://magiccards.info/m14/tw/7.html
且其已放逐對手鎢拉莫掠奪體 http://magiccards.info/bfz/tw/16.html
二、超載施放 Mizzix's Mastery
結算時會將你墳墓場所有的巫術與瞬間牌放逐並複製
其中有投擲 http://magiccards.info/m12/tw/134.html
與其它兩張任意瞬間或巫術
三、施放複製品投擲並犧牲逐令僧侶
這會導致鎢拉莫掠奪體「立即」回到戰場
(不經堆疊或SBA,是在Mizzix's Mastery正結算中,且投擲正施放中回戰場的)
四、鎢拉莫掠奪體有替代性效應可以將我方放逐區的牌弄回墳墓場
這時可以選擇投擲以外,Mizzix's Mastery所產生的複製品!
耶!惡搞完成!
五、複製品進了墳墓場玩法就更多了,嘿嘿嘿嘿
爭議點:複製品是否為牌(card)?
衍生物(Token)絕對不會是牌,且此事實亦不可能透過任何效應修改
但是稍微翻了一下完整規則706. Copying Objects
都沒有提到是否能將複製品視為牌
個人希望是視為牌啦,這樣才好玩嘛
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