LIVE牌局討論 - 撲克牌

By Mary
at 2009-12-09T23:23
at 2009-12-09T23:23
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※ 引述《darkprince (極度享樂主義)》之銘言:
: 這是昨天打到大pot的一手
: 想問問自己的這個MOVE是否是好的
: Kane UTG 小洪 EP 我大盲(22)
: UTG open 80 call到我約5家
: FLOP 2c 3c Qc Pot約420
: 我check
check用意在哪?pot size control準備先call一發?
: riase Kane bet250
250 to 420
60% pot 沒有很大,感覺不太怕別人call
所以排除set跟吐胚
可能有一對帶一張Kc or Ac
配合UTG open range 更可能是KcKx AcAx AcQx
如果是QQset 可能願意打一個大pot 打大一點
(不確定,這部份看player而定)
: 小洪 call
250 to 670
: 我raise到650
650 to 920 = 1570
使得另外兩人變成 400 to call 1570 將近 1:4
我是另外兩個人只要有10out我就叫阿 這個raise變超弱的
所以沒什麼draw會蓋牌,你根本沒辦法立刻拿下這個pot @@
考慮 call 250 to 920 ?
1:3.68
看一張turn你有8張outs,16% 沒有很好的賠率
而且使得pot變成1170
turn上開一張blank如果check ,
kane c-bet 60%的pot大概700 pot 1870
假設小洪又call 700 pot 2570
(當然這是理想的狀態)
700 to 2570 1:3.67
但是你的outs變11張 約 22% odds夠了
所以call似乎「可能可以」在選項內
至少flop可以先call,不然有點浪費這個set
有沒有可能sos? 小洪在EP如果是QQ應該還是會3bet (?)
所以剩下33 ,那小洪中set會不會flat call raiser c-bet?
如果不會那小洪的range就越來越窄了
so ... c/f 我想沒有人會做
c/c 在選項內
c/r 你多付了400...還少看一張turn
(turn上打400出去應該一樣會讓兩家shove 可以bet/fold (誤))
但如果中btn set還讓你打得這麼擔心
那其實在BB蓋掉22 prf也不是件壞事
因為看似在mutiway pot你有更好implie odds , 其實沒有。
(因為對你來說scare card 跟 scare move似乎變得很多@@
噢我c/r 被兩家shove 對方一定有更大的set , 我c/r/f ......orz)
所以看似翻牌後這個c/r想法好像沒問題
其實是翻牌前的選牌造成了你中set卻依然很難打
是說原po有提到「我已經很明顯打得就是set」
這滿微妙的 為什麼你c/r會只有set 22 33(沒有QQ)這麼窄呢@@?
如果這個動作會讓你的range一下子窄到等於攤牌給對手看
那這個動作顯然是很差的選項
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: 這是昨天打到大pot的一手
: 想問問自己的這個MOVE是否是好的
: Kane UTG 小洪 EP 我大盲(22)
: UTG open 80 call到我約5家
: FLOP 2c 3c Qc Pot約420
: 我check
check用意在哪?pot size control準備先call一發?
: riase Kane bet250
250 to 420
60% pot 沒有很大,感覺不太怕別人call
所以排除set跟吐胚
可能有一對帶一張Kc or Ac
配合UTG open range 更可能是KcKx AcAx AcQx
如果是QQset 可能願意打一個大pot 打大一點
(不確定,這部份看player而定)
: 小洪 call
250 to 670
: 我raise到650
650 to 920 = 1570
使得另外兩人變成 400 to call 1570 將近 1:4
我是另外兩個人只要有10out我就叫阿 這個raise變超弱的
所以沒什麼draw會蓋牌,你根本沒辦法立刻拿下這個pot @@
考慮 call 250 to 920 ?
1:3.68
看一張turn你有8張outs,16% 沒有很好的賠率
而且使得pot變成1170
turn上開一張blank如果check ,
kane c-bet 60%的pot大概700 pot 1870
假設小洪又call 700 pot 2570
(當然這是理想的狀態)
700 to 2570 1:3.67
但是你的outs變11張 約 22% odds夠了
所以call似乎「可能可以」在選項內
至少flop可以先call,不然有點浪費這個set
有沒有可能sos? 小洪在EP如果是QQ應該還是會3bet (?)
所以剩下33 ,那小洪中set會不會flat call raiser c-bet?
如果不會那小洪的range就越來越窄了
so ... c/f 我想沒有人會做
c/c 在選項內
c/r 你多付了400...還少看一張turn
(turn上打400出去應該一樣會讓兩家shove 可以bet/fold (誤))
但如果中btn set還讓你打得這麼擔心
那其實在BB蓋掉22 prf也不是件壞事
因為看似在mutiway pot你有更好implie odds , 其實沒有。
(因為對你來說scare card 跟 scare move似乎變得很多@@
噢我c/r 被兩家shove 對方一定有更大的set , 我c/r/f ......orz)
所以看似翻牌後這個c/r想法好像沒問題
其實是翻牌前的選牌造成了你中set卻依然很難打
是說原po有提到「我已經很明顯打得就是set」
這滿微妙的 為什麼你c/r會只有set 22 33(沒有QQ)這麼窄呢@@?
如果這個動作會讓你的range一下子窄到等於攤牌給對手看
那這個動作顯然是很差的選項
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